HERESY said:
1. WHY IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF WHITE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LABELED RACIST (ON THIS SITE) HAVE MADE ATTEMPTS TO TURN THE OPPRESSED INTO THE OPPRESSOR?
Because it is a reality. Black people are both the opressed and the opressor. They have been opressed by white people both directly; slavery, desegregation, police brutality -- and indirectly; white people refusing to acknowledge problems in the black community. They are the opressors because they opress each other. The type of influence and business ethics that are taught by one black man to another are poisonous. We have both talked about black people investing into black businesses, something that is almost abscent in the black community. Why? Because black people do not understand long term economics and business practices. They want money right the fuck now, and rapping about selling drugs and killing cops; shooting a rock through a hole; tap dancing in an endzone; and saying funny things on film are the only sources of immediate capital. Now, I know not many people are going to agree with what I have to say next, but I am going to speak on what I feel. A lot of black people, especially those who are successful, are very selfish. These are the people that can make a difference. They can make a difference by investing and building, but they don't, and we both know why. Because they are not willing to sacrifice their financial success for the weel being of their anscestors. That is how you raise a race of humans to another class is through long term thinking and planning because lets face it, reparations are not going to be paid. Now I'm not saying only black people are guilty of this, everyone is, but emphasis needs to be placed on these black people because they have the future in the grasp of their hands, but they choose to throw it all away at the expense of fast cars and flashy jewelry. You have to think long term because things can not be fixed over night.
HERESY said:
2. WHY IS IT THAT THE MAJORITY OF WHITES WHO SAY "BLACKS SHOULD TAKE INITIATIVE" FAIL TO TAKE INITIATIVE FOR THE CRIMES COMMITED BY WHITE AMERICA? IT'S EASY TO SAY "MY FAMILY DIDN'T OWN SLAVES YADA YADA YADA" BUT WHICH SHOULD BE ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT YOUR FAMILY DIDN'T OWN SLAVES AND CAME TO AMERICA FREE? OR THE FACT THAT SOME OF MY FAMILY CAME TO AMERICA ON SLAVE SHIP'S, IN CHAINS, DEGRADED, RAPED AND ROBBED OF CULTURE, HISTORY AND SELF ESTEEM?
The question "Who is responsible..." will *ALWAYS* end up in a stalemate for those very reasons. Black people want reparations, but have only a skin color to ask for them. But to answer your questions:
1. Because they are not able to link crimes by white people to the starvation of black people. You have three sides to the black struggle; you have the blacks that are opressed, the corporate whites who are opressing them, and the middle/lower class whites who are basically bystanders. Corporate whites are not going to listen to blacks, either because they are unheard or they are ignored, and they definatley arn't going to take the initiative themselves. So that leaves your random shoulder shrugging white person to take a stand. Unfortunatley, most of these white people do not see a struggle because corporate America has woven a blanket over their eyes, and shelved the black struggle in a basement where no middle class white man can see it. In other words, most white people do not know of any black problems aside from the Rodney Kings that are put on television. They hear it when they walk the streets, but what are words without witness.
2. Black problems should be a priority, But it is not white people who owe reparations, something a lot of black people fail to realize. If a ghetto is what remains of slavery, then a CEO is what remains of a slave owner. So if you were to ask me who should pay these reparations, I would say the government *and* corporate America, because they are the remains of those who drove Africans into this country. So the answer to your question is not so simple, and this is where generalizations become a problem. If you have 100 middle class white people for every opressing CEO in America, is it safe to say that white people are the opressors? No, it isn't. And it would be a very vague assertion to think that way.
HERESY said:
3. THE LABEL I HAVE *CONSTANTLY* USED WITH PHIL, WHITE DEVIL, NINEWUNSIXX AND YOURSELF IS "BLIND RACIST". DO YOU HONESTLY FEEL YOU ARE *NOT* A BLIND RACIST OR SHOW SIGNS OF BEING ONE?
I am nothing close to a racist or a blind racist. I think that black people were/are a culture of the most peaceful and civilized humans on this planet before white people stormed their towns and set them afire. I have love for every black man and women on this planet, and there is nothing that any of you can say to take that away. Call me a racist, blind racist, closet racist, whatever, it means nothing to me, and the love I have for African Americans is not going to be lowered by your arrogance.
HERESY said:
I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT BILL COSBY HAS DONE *A LOT* FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY (GIVING TO COLLEGES, SETTING UP SCHOLARSHIPS, ETC ETC ETC). IF HE WERE SELF CENTERED AND DIDN'T CARE FOR HIS PEOPLE HE WOULD NOT HAVE COME OUT THE POCKET WITH HIS OWN MONEY. HOWEVER I DO DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENTS HE MADE ABOUT BLACK MEN BEING SHOT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH. I WONDER HOW MUCH INCORRECT ENGLISH WAS USED IN "FAT ALBERT"?
I don't think he was saying that black people should speak "proper" english, but that they should know how to, and they should. If this is "White America", then how can you be successful in it without obiding by the standards set by the white people who run and control it. African Americans combined with Hispanics make up for less then 2% of executives in the world of business. So for right now, I want you to imagine that at least 95% of all executive positions are filled by white people. With this 95%, there are sets of standards by which they hire; clean cut, educated, good/related work expierence, determination, attitude, appearance etc. Now take a black kid from the "ghetto" and match him up to what a white CEO expects from their new hires. Now take a kid from the suburbs who speaks the
same "proper" english as they do... am I making any sense to you? Are these standards the "white way" to be? It all depends on how you look at it. This professionalism by which the term refers to was set by white people, the word itself was standardized by white people, and more importantly, it is practiced by white people. So
you may think you have to be "white" in order to work with these people, but really you only have to practice the same professionalism that they do. I too have to be someone else just to get a job and support myself. I don't like the standards, but I do what I have to in order to eat. It should be the same way for every black, brown, and yellow person in this country. No one is asking you to change who you are as a person, just to act professional.
HERESY said:
ANOTHER THING THAT STRIKES ME IS HOW WHITE AMERICA CAN LOOK DOWN ON BROKEN ENGLISH/SLANG/EBONICS/WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, YET MAKE ***BILLIONS*** FROM IT EACH YEAR...............
It's money dog. If you could stick a frog up your ass, and in turn shit flawless diamonds, are you telling me you wouldn't do it? White CEO's profiting from black culture is nothing compared to a white CEO getting paid off of infecting humans with cancer. Think about it.
No need for futile arguements. We are intellects, are we not..
