Bill Cosby: Blacks can't speak English

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I think this needed to be said by someone.

The importance of speaking English well cannot be understated. Yes, there are cultural elements to black slang, but it is still just that, slang, and should be used only in informal settings. The thing about it is that Black children are often raised in an environment when nothing but ebonics is spoken, and they carry this with them, this bringing an air of unprofessionalism to a job or presentation, etc.
 
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phil said:
why do i get the feeling that if rush limbaugh had used these exact words this post would be right at the top. where are all the race warlords when you need them? tenk, sarge, nefar?


nefar the race warlord? when? and what threads? i dont recall
 
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fucc what cosby says...shit i say what da fucc i wanna say and if people don't like it den oh wells they can't make me talk all propper and shit, da fuck sum people just cna't stand dat shit then keep it to ya selves...ya see peepz like us talkin wit a slangs and shit and so what datz how da way i grew up wit all dese people and i feel comfrotable for talkin like dat...so what if people don't like it i can talk however da fuck i wanna talk as long as i get da definition words of meaning wit sentences right...da fuck ya'll gotta care, just cuz white people made there own language doesn't mean i gotta do what da white man says, sum ofem might be madd and hatin and shit cuz im talkin wit a slangs and they shouldn't care...im one of da people from da united statez and i have da freedom of speech to say wha i wanna say...
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
I think this needed to be said by someone.

The importance of speaking English well cannot be understated. Yes, there are cultural elements to black slang, but it is still just that, slang, and should be used only in informal settings. The thing about it is that Black children are often raised in an environment when nothing but ebonics is spoken, and they carry this with them, this bringing an air of unprofessionalism to a job or presentation, etc.

I agree with you 100%. Also, don't forget the white country folk, hicks, etc. that do the same thing.
 
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@mexcommando...i never said that i hated the white man's language, im just saying that we all talk english down here and theres no other language that we know in america..it doesn't really matter how people talk either with accent or slangs...if i was to talk to a white man i would talk how white people talk..even if the white people heard others talkin in slangs, they should just keep it to themselves, matter in fact this is OUR country not just the white man's, it was by the white man but people from other countries have fought to be part of the united states to gain freedom...shit this country that we in rightnow was probably for all of us and somethn about it, it was the only country that nobody didn't go to till the whites came and said it was theres, thinkin that they was the only ones shit they made just about everything up...just cuz the white man speaks better english then us doesn't mean i have to not speak english, i'll speak it in a different way for me and for the people that think alike like me..aint no way in hell will peepz gon try and start talking how the white man talks, theres to much shit goin on, the slangs is popular around here these days and thru all that slave shit i think people have the right to talk how they wanna talk in english, they def wouldn't feel comfrotable talking how white folks talk..even though some knows how but they wouldn't want that shit with there peers...even alot of mexicans can't speak english that good and sum dont give a fuck..whites can't tell us how to talk, they just mad cuz the slangs is bein popular from another individual and sum whites are with it...you see all da other white devils trying to take over shit espcially governments...it's just stupid as fuck that people fightin over a fuccin language wtf does it really matter? i bet cha if it wasn't for the whites and we had black governments from the begining this would have been hella better alot better fasho..it'z kinda like parents they have there own house and yes ya gotta respect them but you livin in the house too and you gotta have yo own rights as well..theres a whole lot of shit to be solved around here thatz why ya gotta fight fo yo mothafuckin right
 
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carlos said:
@mexcommando...i never said that i hated the white man's language, im just saying that we all talk english down here and theres no other language that we know in america
First you alienated yourself from the White Man's language. As much truth as there maybe in that statement it is also your language unless you speak another language which would be the White Man's language also unless it is not a Romantic Language.
There's no other language?
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=USA
carlos said:
it doesn't really matter how people talk either with accent or slangs
Unless you wan't to keep the ignorant stereotype. I use slang but I also know when not to. It denotes a certain stigma society has placed and it is well deserved.
carlos said:
if i was to talk to a white man i would talk how white people talk..even if the white people heard others talkin in slangs, they should just keep it to themselves,
Not sure what you mean but I'd like to make my point either way. How do white people talk? You mean they talk white because they don't talk like southern colonial time negros? The type of slang like: po', chickun, greze, yung un, etc aren't black speech they're white words and white idioms. White people started talking slang and blacks gathered it up. White people have moved from it, well most have, hicks still do. I think minorities should not so much stop talking slang but rather they should start talking properly.
carlos said:
matter in fact this is OUR country not just the white man's, it was by the white man but people from other countries have fought to be part of the united states to gain freedom
This country isn't our country. It's the indigenous peoples.
carlos said:
shit this country that we in rightnow was probably for all of us and somethn about it, it was the only country that nobody didn't go to till the whites came and said it was theres, thinkin that they was the only ones shit they made just about everything up...just cuz the white man speaks better english then us doesn't mean i have to not speak english
That's my point. The white man doesn't have to speak better english. Why do you think white suburban parents get mad when their sons nigga it up?
carlos said:
i'll speak it in a different way for me and for the people that think alike like me..aint no way in hell will peepz gon try and start talking how the white man talks, theres to much shit goin on
so ya be ruther talking like this and chit? Why? It perpetuates stupidity. Fuckers are 24 years old and can't read. Idiots are 30 years old and the longest book they've ever read was Grapes of Wrath. Why speak like that? Speak it with your friends if you'd like but speaking properly helps you develope your verbal skills. It helps you accentuate your meaning.
carlos said:
the slangs is popular around here these days and thru all that slave shit i think people have the right to talk how they wanna talk in english, they def wouldn't feel comfrotable talking how white folks talk..even though some knows how but they wouldn't want that shit with there peers
No offence my friend. But you are using poor writing skills. Maybe it's because you don't care but you should care, It isn't how the white man talks. The Whites in the South talked like blacks do before blacks. They're the one's that thought them. That whole Slang thing isn't "black power" it's a perpetual shackle the white man placed on you.
carlos said:
even alot of mexicans can't speak english that good and sum dont give a fuck..whites can't tell us how to talk, they just mad cuz the slangs is bein popular from another individual and sum whites are with it...you see all da other white devils trying to take over shit espcially governments...it's just stupid as fuck that people fightin over a fuccin language wtf does it really matter? i bet cha if it wasn't for the whites and we had black governments from the begining this would have been hella better alot better fasho..it'z kinda like parents they have there own house and yes ya gotta respect them but you livin in the house too and you gotta have yo own rights as well..theres a whole lot of shit to be solved around here thatz why ya gotta fight fo yo mothafuckin right
Mexican's have had their own period of slavitude but at least they speak Spanish with a high level of proficiency. English is not the first language for some at once you're an adult it is harder to pick up a second language. Black's don't have this problem yet they're throwing the oppurtunity away. All you're saying is that you want to speak like a black man. Which is with a slang. but once again I have to ask why? Look at MLK, Frederick Douglas, Malcom X they all spoke like the white man so why do blacks look up to them?
 
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talkin shlang all day everyday puts you in your own little world too. I feel it makes you disconnected and thats a bad thang, it'll affect graduation, gettin a jobby and all kinds of shit that finna make your livin more critical.

I really cant say i've been poppin slang all my life.. I remember when I started school I was the only kid with a big enough vocabulary to properly conversate wit my teacher. I can thank my moms for that, readin to me at age 3.

If yall gots kids, a baby, or if they're in their infancy, do the right thing mayn. Get some story books and read to em every night.. Get them to read to you to. Take it in turns to read stories.
 
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phil said:
why isnt cosby being called a racist???

i am absolutely outraged at his racist remarks.

oh wait,,,,, hes black. my bad. carry on.
I really dont give a fuck about Bill Cosby's comments, or what a white person has to say. All I can say is...people who say shyt like that are always the ones quick to holla "we're all equal" or "color dont matter"...some bullshyt like that. Come on now, get for real...
 
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Also...its bullshyt to say some mess like that from the beginning. I speak with my slang all the time, its almost all I know. BUT, when it comes time to get down to business like job intereviews, or situations like that...I know how to speak correctly. So dont get it twisted. Its a lot of black people who play it like that, speak the slang around they people, but speak corrent english when its time to get down to business. I dont know why people bitch about us speakin slang. Its not that serious. Let us have our slang outside the professional workplace. What we do around our people is our thing, just know how to speak the business language when its time.
 
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I agree with some of what he said but not all of it, you don't go blaming the victim. Working with some kids in inner city school and observing class room lessons I've come to realize that a lot of the teachers there are not qualified at all.

The bar is not set very high for these kids at all, and a lot can graduate elementary school, middle school without knowing how to read and write properly.

I was chopping it up with this one brotha from Lousianna at a black seminar and he was telling me how some of the elementary schools in his city didn't even have libraries. And if the schools did have books it didn't contain many books at al. Do yall know how bad that is? Elementary years are definitely the most important years in a childs life, they need to be read to often and they need to have the option of checking out books to read.

I agree with what he said about having to take back the community, he needs to go to these schools and demand them to teach better or else.
 
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But how do you "take back the community" without acknowledging that things can be done by black peple themselves a.k.a "blaming the victim." It seems like Black America has dictated that no one, not even black people themselves, can tell them that the ball is in their court even on *some* issues.

No one is saying Blacks are completely responsible for their situation, but in this day and age the impetus for real change will be Black people themselves, not white people, not politicians, not government programs.
 
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aint nothin gon change unless one person takez command of da whole family and da shit he's been thru dat could be possible...i dont no though about the english part, theres to many problems and shit goin on im just not gonna go on with it life goes on and what comes is what it is...