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HERESY

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B-San said:
Judging from my postcount... yeah, somewut... although I don't plan on posting too much on here as things can get redundant at times... but when I'm at work it's good... but yeah... feel free to get the opinion of a former athiest turned agnostic if you want....

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=228703&page=2

buddah bless
Now I understand the reason why you provided me with a link to your views.
 

ThaG

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2-0-Sixx said:
I'll answer my own question:

Congressman Holds No God-Belief

Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.) is first Congress member in history to acknowledge his nontheism

For Immediate Release
Contact: Lori Lipman Brown, (202) 299-1091
March 12, 2007

There is only one member of Congress who is on record as not holding a god-belief.

Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.), a member of Congress since 1973, acknowledged his nontheism in response to an inquiry by the Secular Coalition for America (www.secular.org ). Rep. Stark is a senior member of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee and is Chair of the Health Subcommittee.

Although the Constitution prohibits religious tests for public office, the Coalition's research reveals that Rep. Stark is the first open nontheist in the history of the Congress. Recent polls show that Americans without a god-belief are, as a group, more distrusted than any other minority in America. Surveys show that the majority of Americans would not vote for an atheist for president even if he or she were the most qualified for the office.

Herb Silverman, president of the Secular Coalition for America, attributes these attitudes to the demonization of people who don't believe in God. "The truth is," says Silverman, "the vast majority of us follow the Golden Rule and are as likely to be good citizens, just like Rep. Stark with over 30 years of exemplary public service. The only way to counter the prejudice against nontheists is for more people to publicly identify as nontheists. Rep. Stark shows remarkable courage in being the first member of Congress to do so."

In October, 2006 the Secular Coalition for America, a national lobby representing the interests of atheists, humanists, freethinkers, and other nontheists, announced a contest. At the time, few if any elected officials, even at the lowest level, would self-identify as a nontheist. So the Coalition offered $1,000 to the person who could identify the highest level atheist, agnostic, humanist or any other kind of nontheist currently holding elected public office in the United States.

In addition to Rep. Stark only three other elected officials agreed to do so: Terry S. Doran, president of the School Board in Berkeley, Calif.; Nancy Glista on the School Committee in Franklin, Maine; and Michael Cerone, a Town Meeting Member from Arlington, Mass.


Surveys vary in the percentage of atheists, humanists, freethinkers and other nontheists in the U.S, with about 10% (30 million people) a fair middle point. "If the number of nontheists in Congress reflected the percentage of nontheists in the population," Lori Lipman Brown, director of the Secular Coalition, observes, "there would be 53-54 nontheistic Congress members instead of one."

http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html

1 Atheist in the entire HISTORY of congress, 0 Atheists in Senate.
don't forget this:

The following exchange took place at the Chicago airport between Robert I. Sherman of American Atheist Press and George Bush, on August 27 1987. Sherman is a fully accredited reporter, and was present by invitation as a member of the press corps. The Republican presidential nominee was there to announce federal disaster relief for Illinois. The discussion turned to the presidential primary:

RS:
"What will you do to win the votes of Americans who are atheists?"
GB:
"I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me."
RS:
"Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?"
GB:
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
RS:
"Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?"
GB:
"Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists."
 
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I believe if an atheist doesn\'t believe in God..so be it. Especially in this country.
I am an agnostic and influenced by a christian upbringing , yet some of the most intelligent people I know are infact atheist.
 
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PreachOnBrotha said:
I believe if an atheist doesn\'t believe in God..so be it. Especially in this country.
I am an agnostic and influenced by a christian upbringing , yet some of the most intelligent people I know are infact atheist.

do you think this is a coinsidence?

just wondering...
 

HERESY

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^^^ No not at all. People who are interested in religion usually go into certain fields while those interested in science usually go into another. Again, if we imply that these people are more "intelectual" because they are atheist, we could also imply they are more intelectual because they are white males.
 
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^^i understand...

I was thinking along the same lines but wanted to hear what others thought.

Im not down talking believers of gods, but I do know so many people that are religious and they simply dont want to understand certain sciences because they tend to think it will sway them from what they understand....

For example, I could tell my mom about some planets they found or the meteorite (sp?) that is projected to be near earth in 30 years and she will somehow relate those things to the bible, like she has heard all this before, when in truth she hasnt.

I dont think it is a coincedence either.......

luckily I have gotten away from thinking everything is in the bible, like I used to be......because its not. (and Im not calling out christians, just talking about myself).

5000
 

ThaG

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HERESY said:
^^^ No not at all. People who are interested in religion usually go into certain fields while those interested in science usually go into another. Again, if we imply that these people are more "intelectual" because they are atheist, we could also imply they are more intelectual because they are white males.
what about these people being atheists because they're more intelectual?
 
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I don't see how not believing in something can be equated with intellect. Well, depending on the circumstance, but as far as having belief in something that can't be proven either way is simply a choice, and has nothing at all to do with IQ and/or education. Unless atheists have some startling irrefutable proof that there is no "creator" or "God" then debate over someone's belief, or criticism for it is baseless.
 
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How can belief or non-belief in something that couldn't be proven either way be equated with intellect? It can go either way as far as I'm concerned, atheists are usually labeled as "lost" in the eyes and mouths of a lot of religious theists. I don't see either side as being "lost" or intellectually bankrupt. Certain people simply conform to different aspects of society and others may in fact acquire certain information that escapes others maybe because it just isn't their particular topic of interest. That's like asking who was more brilliant out of Shakespeare and Einstein, or Sigmund Freud and C.S Lewis, who obviously had opposing views from each other but were all brilliant in their own right.
 

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ParkBoyz said:
I don't see how not believing in something can be equated with intellect. Well, depending on the circumstance, but as far as having belief in something that can't be proven either way is simply a choice, and has nothing at all to do with IQ and/or education. Unless atheists have some startling irrefutable proof that there is no "creator" or "God" then debate over someone's belief, or criticism for it is baseless.
very easily - one of the founding logical principles of science is that if something has not been definitively proven or disproven, it is considered false, until a vast, overwhelming amount of evidence supporting it is presented

since the evidence for the existence of God is exactly zero, everybody who believes in God violates this principle

the other way round: most intelligent people tend to be associated with some sort of scientific activity - therefore it is much harder for them to believe in something coming out of thin air than it is for the layman on the street
 
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The Red Sin said:
Ok, just to point one thing out, Before Darwin died, it\'s up for debate, but he Gave his life up to Christ, whether he admitted Evolution or Darwinism was a sin or not, many believe he conformed.
That\'s what I heard as well, I also heard he denounced his theory as impossible.

I generally see nothing wrong with someone being atheist or believing the theory of evolution is infallible, but it just doesn\'t work for me.

Yes, I do believe some \'\'type\'\' of evolution happened, but not darwinians\' theory.

I also believe there is a God.

Would it be impossible to believe in both at the same time? I say yes.
 
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^^The Darwin story has already been debunked.

You can read about it HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE. And as one source stated, even if the story was true it would be completely irrelevant as the theory of evolution rests upon reams of evidence from many different sources, not upon the authority of any one single person. It would be like saying electricity is not real because Benjamin Franklin denounced all of his research on his deathbed.