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Pfft. What a bunch of nonsense. This is why so many members get frustrated when speaking to you…
I thought it was b/c I can be condescending and hold opposing beliefs/views on certain subjects (Israel/Judaism) that isn’t commonly shared around these parts, but whatever
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Israel's policy is to turn Palestinians into refugees and to incorporate the West Bank into Israel.
Wrong, Israel’s policy is to protect it’s citizens, maintain a Jewish state, and as long as those first two conditions are satisfied, run a ‘democratic’ govt
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Israel's gradual destruction of Palestine has become part of the fabric of everyday affairs and is certainly on par with Hitler.
Israel does not hold public rallies for the masses trying to garner support and give speeches of hate as Hitler did. Israel does to preach nor desire for the extermination of an entire group of people
There is plenty of voiced opposition to the actions/policies of the Israeli gov’t from within her boarders in many facets of society there. If anyone ever talked shit about the Hitler/Nazi’s they’d be grounds for jail or death or both…
The simile is SO extreme, it detracts from the actual point
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The occupied lands have been appropriated by Israeli settlements and now by a massive wall and special roads on which no Palestinian can travel. Palestinian villages have been cut off from water, from their fields and groves, basic power and electricity in most parts, from schools and hospitals, and from one another. Essentially, what was once Palestine has become isolated ghettos in which the Palestinian inhabitants cannot enter or depart without Israeli permission and have special IDs or badges, much like the Jews were forced to wear.
The Jews of Nazi Germany were not isolated b/c of a land dispute and/or violent acts.
The jews of Nazi Germany were an ideological threat against the advancement of the Aryan society as a whole, where as vigilant/militant Palastinian Jihadists are an actualy real time physical threat who shoot rockets and blow them selves up when given the opportunity… I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, violence only breeds more violence, and until both sides are seriously willing to lay down the arms, and talk peace--- only then will the a resolution to the land dispute/two state solution become a reality.
(the problem really lies with what the kids are being taught on both sides from a young age)
The Jews of Nazi Germany were not isolated b/c of violent acts or a dispute of land.
After they were isolated, they were then shipped like cattle with hundreds packed into a cattle car to concentration camps all throughout Europe, then sent as slaves to ’Labor Camps (for Nazi profit)’ and either served as slaves, murdered, or even used as human guinea pigs in some some of the 20th centuries cruelest scientific experiments…
Once again, there is no denial of the fact that the Palestinian people suffer great isolation, poverty, injustice and oppression, and yes sometimes Israels reaction is disproportionate. However, there is a huge difference, the Jews of Nazi Germany were an imaginary threat to the well being of the master race due to hard economic times ect., The Palastinian gov’t on the other hand Is filled with leaders that promote martrydom/suicide bombings, rocket fire, violence and a Jihad against Jews/Israel as a whole is not at all willing to negotiate, and is more interested in its extremeist ideals to wipe Israel off the map rather than make concessions to work towards a resolution.
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And the Zionists believe they are the master race (God’s chosen people and all that other nonsense you probably subscribe to).
I am a Zionist, and I don't subscribe to master race anything. We are ALL people.
I actually believe we are ALL (as humans) part of the same ONE. A Chosen People does not equate to a master race. Judaism is many things, a religion, a people, a culture, but Jews are not a race, although Hitler taught to the contrary.
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Oh really? And I supposed taking over Palestinian property/land is not imperialistic?!
The intent of the annexation is not for profit, expansion or gain, it is for Israeli security… believe me, it is a huge strain on the Israli gov’t, the IDF and its soldiers, and for the country as a whole…
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Arab-Israeli tensions arose from Israel's refusal to leave occupied Palestine and return to its own borders.
This is myth is nothing short of pure rhetoric. Arab Israeli tensions come from a desire to push the jews into the Sea. The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is used as a scapegoat by surrounding countries in the region for their own political/social/economic shortcomings. They redirect their countries own domestic dissatisfaction and divert it towards Israel… Just as the Jews were used as scapegoats during Nazi germany…. All these countries say they have an interest in the Palestinian movement, but there is no action, there is no economic support, there is no infrastructure support, no political support, no opening of boarders or job opportunites (like allowing work visas)(in fact just the opposite, many Arab countries kicked out their palastinian population with the intent to create strife)…. The sad fact is, they are used as pawns and many are coming to resent the rhetoric they’ve heard for generations from their brethren…
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Peace will come to Israel and the Middle East if and when the Israeli government is willing to comply with international law and honor its own previous commitments - by accepting its legal borders.
So if Israel and Palestine did come to an equitable resolution, the Sunni’s and Shi’ites whould drop their beef all thought the mid-East? The Saudi’s, Iranians, Syrians, Hizbollah, Hamas ect will stop teaching ‘The Protocols’ as fact in their educational system? Pakistan and India will join hands and sing John Lennon songs? Somolia and Ethiopia and Eritria & Egypy will suddenly become friends? Lets … save that for the Baker commision
Arab Israli tensions come from a desire to push the jews into the Sea
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And murder, imprison, torture and kidnap their members. Forgot to leave those minor details out didn’t you?
Nice way to dance around my comments about you loving the democracy they forced upon the Palestinians.
Hamas has been a terrorist organization before a political one. As long as they clench to their ideals and don’t recognize Israel as a state and her internationally recognized boarders, they will be treated as terrorists, not politician.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Please, humor me with specifics about these great liberties that Arab-Israeli’s enjoy!
They have seats in the Knesset, they are NOT forced to join the IDF, they have freedom of religion (or lack there of if they choose), freedom of speech, dress, employment and educational opportunites, ect….
Just as much as communists & dirty hippies
