are whites inconsiderate towards other folks?
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^REALISTICALLY, SINCE WHITES HAVE THE PERCEPTION OF SOCIETY AND IN A CLASS THAT IS PERCEIVED MORE FAVORABLE, IT'S EASIER TO KILL YOUR OWN AND gET AWAY WITH IT. IT'S A SHAME BUT TRUE. BUT MOST WHITES DON'T DO N-E-THANg DIRECTLY. SO PERCEPTIBLY, THERE AIN'T A SO-CALLED PROBLEM.
BUT IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT. WE DIVIDED AND THEY WANT US THAT WAY. DIVIDED WE KILL EACH OTHA AND DO THEY DIRTY WORK. THAT WAY THERE'S DISCLAIMERS LIKE A MUTHA-FUKA.
BUT IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT. WE DIVIDED AND THEY WANT US THAT WAY. DIVIDED WE KILL EACH OTHA AND DO THEY DIRTY WORK. THAT WAY THERE'S DISCLAIMERS LIKE A MUTHA-FUKA.
lmao@ sydal...i dont hate white ppl...goodfellas is my fave movie...as for your fam living here, you cant tell me future generations of your bloodline will have the same beliefs and understand their heritage and culture as much as you...the majority of whites in this country have been here for a while, theyve established families and generations here, for every immigrant white from another country who comes here today, how many do you think already live here since ww2, the number of whites coming in is nowhere near the number of whites already living here as americans, it will never even come close...and come on, we live in a different world here, you mean to tell me every one of your family members is just like the family back home?the way we live, the way we socialize, the way we think as a country is different than the rest of the worlds...i am curious when your family arrived to this country?...myself and my cousins are first generation mexican americans...we all grew up and socialized with mexicans in our neighborhoods, our families, our schools...we go to mexico, its a different world my friend, were not the same, and the differences will only grow as we have kids and they have kids and they have kids...were no longer just mexicans, were mexican americans, beacuse im not the same as pedro from guadalajara...i go to mexico, i feel at home but im still an outsider, i still get treated as an outsider...why?, because i live different, i dress different, i talk different, i am different from them, even my parents, they came here in their early 20s, and theyre different, were not in the same ballpark as our family back home.
@ reppin the 509...whites dont kill whites?
@ reppin the 509...whites dont kill whites?
For one, YES, my kids will understand and appreciate their heritage as much as I do because it will be a part of my teachings as a father from the moment my children are born. It was passed on to my mother successfully, she passed it on to me successfully, and I will continue what was started. As far as beliefs go, in general, I will let mine be known and hope my kids believe in the same shit as I do, as deeply as I do...because the shit I believe in, is shit that can never be negative to a normal human being that can think, my thoughts and beliefs are positive, as fuck. Belief in the culture and the family values, they will have that for generations to come...it's a way of life, and any decent Italian out there knows what I mean when I say that. Family, love, shit like that, comes before all...PERIOD!!
About white immigrants...you really can't compare, say, an English or German immigrant to an Italian or Spanish immigrant, they aren't one in the same and never have been.
About my family, I'm not sure on an exact date of arrival in the United States, but it was in the mid-late 19-teens...I believe around 1915, but I'm not TOTALLY sure about that. I just know we have quite a few years to mark the 100th anniversary of the family coming over here. Is everyone in my family like they were back home? Well, my mom speaks English of course, she's 2nd generation here. She eats americanized food but it's not the same to her as Authentic Italian food. She dresses the role, she can't dress like a villager from Northern Italy now can she? She could, but she doesn't, it wouldn't fly. Does she have the same values? Yes. Is she as passionate as they are in Italy? Yes. I have yet to meet a truly Americanized person with as much passion as my mother. My dad is the same way.
My grandparents all passed away before I knew them, except for my moms mother, who was an older version of my mom. My grandparents had the family, and even the Italian and Italian/Irish friends come over and have big fancy meals ALL THE TIME...speaking Italian, eating Italian, drinking Italian, BEING ITALIAN!! My grandfather didn't teach my mom Italian because he wanted her to be Americanized, it didn't work. She has the blood, and then I was born. I taught myself Italian and now I'm giving that gift to her. So, what's left of my family, we're close-knit...always have been and always will be. My uncles are still around, and they're WOPS like me, or I'm a WOP like them.
See, when people move to this country, their culture is USUALLY pretty much stripped after the first or 2nd generation.
As far as my family goes, we don't value the same shit Americanized people value, we don't talk the same way, the kids don't act the same way towards their parents. We have pride, dignity, and honor, something a lot of people in this country don't have. If we had satchels full of big head ben's, we'd throw it away without hesitating, for a loved one. These are things you couldn't pay people to do. You couldn't pay an American to have an entire conversation with his/her hands, all while saying as much words as he/she could count on their fingers. You couldn't pay most White Americans to follow their culture, because people in this country are lazy, and it's easier to just be AMERICAN like everybody else. It's little shit like that, that we have, that will never be taken from us....
AND THAT IS WHAT SEPERATES US FROM THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
P.S. Goodfellas is one of the best movies created...thumbs up to you for that one.
About white immigrants...you really can't compare, say, an English or German immigrant to an Italian or Spanish immigrant, they aren't one in the same and never have been.
About my family, I'm not sure on an exact date of arrival in the United States, but it was in the mid-late 19-teens...I believe around 1915, but I'm not TOTALLY sure about that. I just know we have quite a few years to mark the 100th anniversary of the family coming over here. Is everyone in my family like they were back home? Well, my mom speaks English of course, she's 2nd generation here. She eats americanized food but it's not the same to her as Authentic Italian food. She dresses the role, she can't dress like a villager from Northern Italy now can she? She could, but she doesn't, it wouldn't fly. Does she have the same values? Yes. Is she as passionate as they are in Italy? Yes. I have yet to meet a truly Americanized person with as much passion as my mother. My dad is the same way.
My grandparents all passed away before I knew them, except for my moms mother, who was an older version of my mom. My grandparents had the family, and even the Italian and Italian/Irish friends come over and have big fancy meals ALL THE TIME...speaking Italian, eating Italian, drinking Italian, BEING ITALIAN!! My grandfather didn't teach my mom Italian because he wanted her to be Americanized, it didn't work. She has the blood, and then I was born. I taught myself Italian and now I'm giving that gift to her. So, what's left of my family, we're close-knit...always have been and always will be. My uncles are still around, and they're WOPS like me, or I'm a WOP like them.
See, when people move to this country, their culture is USUALLY pretty much stripped after the first or 2nd generation.
As far as my family goes, we don't value the same shit Americanized people value, we don't talk the same way, the kids don't act the same way towards their parents. We have pride, dignity, and honor, something a lot of people in this country don't have. If we had satchels full of big head ben's, we'd throw it away without hesitating, for a loved one. These are things you couldn't pay people to do. You couldn't pay an American to have an entire conversation with his/her hands, all while saying as much words as he/she could count on their fingers. You couldn't pay most White Americans to follow their culture, because people in this country are lazy, and it's easier to just be AMERICAN like everybody else. It's little shit like that, that we have, that will never be taken from us....
AND THAT IS WHAT SEPERATES US FROM THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
P.S. Goodfellas is one of the best movies created...thumbs up to you for that one.
good to hear about your family staying up on their heritage...its bothersome to see ppl from outside this country come here and completely americanize themselves...from personal experience and i mean a gang of personal experience, maybe you even got experiences, mexicans seem to completely indulge themselves into the american way of life...its amazing how many ppl i know, that dont speak a word of spanish, never eaten a bite of authentic mexican food, when their parents only speak spanish and cook at home everyday...its actually funny when i meet someone with brown pride tattoos and raza tats on his body who doesnt speak a word of spanish...but you have to admit, not everyone is like you...i agree with you that americans are lazy, and im not speaking about caucasians or white skinned ppl, ppl all over the US, something about this place that just breeds sin.
ps.goodfellas isnt one of the best movies created...IT IS THE BEST DIGS!
ps.goodfellas isnt one of the best movies created...IT IS THE BEST DIGS!
some shit on here is real some is fake,
affirmintive action is kool, i think cuz minorites don't usally have the opprotunity to be "qualified".
take a chicano or africana studies class.
in hawaii whites r hella dissed, latinos smetimes 2
n as 4 the people of Hawaii, japanese n somoans r'nt Hawaiian, so....
affirmintive action is kool, i think cuz minorites don't usally have the opprotunity to be "qualified".
take a chicano or africana studies class.
in hawaii whites r hella dissed, latinos smetimes 2
n as 4 the people of Hawaii, japanese n somoans r'nt Hawaiian, so....
Dawg, my bad for completely misinterpreting your words from the jump, that's real spit that you're kickin. You're right, not everyone is like me, and not everyones family is like mine...but they exist out there. I've met a SHITLOAD of Italians who don't even act like it, it's like it isn't even part of them. Same with Mexicans, asians, etc. I have ONE homie who is Sicilian, and out of our group, we're the only two that say SALUTE when we toast. It's extremely hard to keep up the culture, but I believe it's vital. Don't get me wrong, I love America, I love the diversity here, I love my freedom when it's not interrupted by a cop with a a power trip and a gun...but I can never see myself or any of my family members being Americanized...
my brother is almost there but I'm going to save his ass if it kills me. As long as I've been alive, when people ask what I am, I have NEVER said AMERICAN, I've always said ITALIAN!!
And you're right, there are people out there who claim all of this shit, but they don't know a lick of their native tongue and they've never had one piece of authentic (name your country) food. Another thing, in my opinion, is people who understand and love their culture, wouldn't kill each other, especially over shit that doesn't matter, ya feel? Most of the time, killing is because of greed or envy, and those who understand the life and love that was passed to them aren't greedy or envious of anything because they have what they need...that's just my opinion though. Those morals and that kind of system, as you know, is mostly a latin thing. Italians, French, Spanish, Mexican, etc...the ones who follow our cultures all have a system similar to what I just stated. So I feel you, there are a lot of people out there saying Brown Pride/Italian Pride/this pride, that pride...la Familia or La Famiglia, but they can't grasp the concept of pride or family...
To me, "America" and "American" is an IDEA...an idea to be free yet be who you are. People fall into some kind of trap and think American is THEIR culture...but it's just an idea in reality. If we all refuse to lose our culture, this country would improve 10 fold, because we would have those values...and we would ALL have something in common, ALL OF US...and with accepting your own shit, it would be easier to accept the culture of others, because then we would all know where everybody else is coming from when they do certain things. Again, my opinion.
my brother is almost there but I'm going to save his ass if it kills me. As long as I've been alive, when people ask what I am, I have NEVER said AMERICAN, I've always said ITALIAN!!
And you're right, there are people out there who claim all of this shit, but they don't know a lick of their native tongue and they've never had one piece of authentic (name your country) food. Another thing, in my opinion, is people who understand and love their culture, wouldn't kill each other, especially over shit that doesn't matter, ya feel? Most of the time, killing is because of greed or envy, and those who understand the life and love that was passed to them aren't greedy or envious of anything because they have what they need...that's just my opinion though. Those morals and that kind of system, as you know, is mostly a latin thing. Italians, French, Spanish, Mexican, etc...the ones who follow our cultures all have a system similar to what I just stated. So I feel you, there are a lot of people out there saying Brown Pride/Italian Pride/this pride, that pride...la Familia or La Famiglia, but they can't grasp the concept of pride or family...
To me, "America" and "American" is an IDEA...an idea to be free yet be who you are. People fall into some kind of trap and think American is THEIR culture...but it's just an idea in reality. If we all refuse to lose our culture, this country would improve 10 fold, because we would have those values...and we would ALL have something in common, ALL OF US...and with accepting your own shit, it would be easier to accept the culture of others, because then we would all know where everybody else is coming from when they do certain things. Again, my opinion.
IVE HAD PEOPLE BE INCONCIDERATE TOWARDS ME...
IT HAS NEVER BEEN JUST ONE SPECIFIC RACE..
I LIVE IN A PRODOMINITLY WHITE UPPERMIDDLE CLASS TOWN WITH A LOT OF PRETENTIOUS PEOPLE. THERE ARNT MANY MINORITIES AND THEY DONT DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE...
I MEAN DONT GET ME WRONG THEY ARNT BLATANTLY RUDE BUT I CAN TELL WHAT THEY ARE THINKING
IT HAS NEVER BEEN JUST ONE SPECIFIC RACE..
I LIVE IN A PRODOMINITLY WHITE UPPERMIDDLE CLASS TOWN WITH A LOT OF PRETENTIOUS PEOPLE. THERE ARNT MANY MINORITIES AND THEY DONT DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE...
I MEAN DONT GET ME WRONG THEY ARNT BLATANTLY RUDE BUT I CAN TELL WHAT THEY ARE THINKING
They say chivelry and manners are dead. I work as a vendor in grocery stores, and I got to say that all races seem equally inconsiderate of each other. Whether im working in a rich or poor neighborhood, white or black, you see people ALL acting like asses. I dont think any race is perticularly worse than the other.
As for the white male comment, you got a point that we "may" have it better then other races. But I guess that all depends on what having it better means. Some may make more money or whatever, but growing up in the bay area (considered one of the most unbiased places in the country) you still notice people treat you different because you are white and they are another race. Its really funny because my family had nothing to do with oppression and slavery, and they climbed their way up the ladder through hard work. I think that is also a point that a lot of people neglect, alot of white males deserve to be in high positions, they are educated, they work hard, they are out to help others, its really a small minority that make up that evil white male stereotype.
BTW, my father applied for a position at a govt. organization in Oakland. He had previous experience in the organization and was much more qualified than a black applicant that also applied, but the black applicant was given the job because he was black and the organization wanted a more diverse staff b/c they were in Oakland. If that aint racist maybe you could tell me what is...
As for the white male comment, you got a point that we "may" have it better then other races. But I guess that all depends on what having it better means. Some may make more money or whatever, but growing up in the bay area (considered one of the most unbiased places in the country) you still notice people treat you different because you are white and they are another race. Its really funny because my family had nothing to do with oppression and slavery, and they climbed their way up the ladder through hard work. I think that is also a point that a lot of people neglect, alot of white males deserve to be in high positions, they are educated, they work hard, they are out to help others, its really a small minority that make up that evil white male stereotype.
BTW, my father applied for a position at a govt. organization in Oakland. He had previous experience in the organization and was much more qualified than a black applicant that also applied, but the black applicant was given the job because he was black and the organization wanted a more diverse staff b/c they were in Oakland. If that aint racist maybe you could tell me what is...
being a latin-american rom a little red neck town i myself also take on plenty or rasism. in a population where there are about 30 white people for every one mexican it is hard for to cope in this world. so i do understand when the roles are switch and white people are put into my position. it makes me think that they will think before they say or do anything that might offend someone