are whites inconsiderate towards other folks?

[Sydal]

What do you consider "white"? That's a BIG generalization there. Reason being, there are white people from England, France, Italy, Spain, MEXICO and every other South American country (Yes, I have seen blonde haired/blue eyed mexicans and south americans.

I'm also Italian, and I get treated like everybody else that wears clothes like me. I get laid on the ground and cuffed at gun point because the cops are "looking for suspects" in this crime or that crime, all while telling me I'm not a suspect. Every time I get pulled over (for nothing), I get searched, and I go through a series of sobriety tests because I "could have been using drugs" (which is bullshit cause I'm not a drug user nor do I look like one). Yes, I go through this bullshit constantly, and I'm white as fuck. Do I go and blame an entire generation for being fuck offs and making the cops think I'm among the bad people? No. My generation consists of mostly fuck offs, people with no fuckin sense, but I don't blame everybody in my age group, just the idiots. It's the same shit.

As an Italian man, study your Italian History before you speak on it. See, Benito Mussolini didn't have his country brainwashed like he wanted, like Hitler had Germany brainwashed. Don't generalize the Italian people because Mussolini tried to be Hitlers Protege. What happened when Mussolini slipped? The Italian people hung him upside down, shot him, cheered about it and then pissed on his corpse. So what does HE have to do with anything? That cat NEVER represented us as a people, don't believe everything you're told, and don't believe everything you read.

Then, when we came to America, the government showed us what segregation was as well. We were put through Angel and Ellis Islands, quarantined, some had to change their names to be americanized, then we were put into our own neighborhoods, just like everybody else. North Beach in San Francisco, Little Italy in Chicago, and Little Italy in New York just to name the most popular...we were seperated from everybody else in the country, too. We were called GINNY'S and WOP'S and GREASERS and EYE-TALIANS (people said that just to mock our shit). Funny thing is I still hear the shit to this day, from WHITE FOLKS.

So, if it's hard NOT to hate white folks, go ahead and hate me...but in all actuality, I'm JUST LIKE YOU, only lighter.

 

[CannibalCrow]

Instances of power abuse range from all over the color spectrum. Especially what one leader may do to his own people. But check out the word "Leader". I don't agree with a dang thing Dubya's doing. At all. Does he represent me? No. Am I mixed? Yes, I am. A quarter Cuban, quarter Irish on my dad's side, Half irish and there's some Cherokee somewhere far back on my mom's side, and some of this and that. I don't even know what else. But yes, a little native. I don't look it, I am sure. And it's too small a portion to claim anywhere. I think you have to be 1/16 or more Native to quote it. My white is the Irish, and whatever else my folks brought to the table. People in power may be of any race. But individuals are the ones who have to suffer if their leaders suck.

On the same issue, could I also not say that Men, as a whole, have always been in leader positions? Have always caused wars? Have beaten their wives, made women property? Men, as a whole, of almost every nation at any time, have treated women like second class citizens? I mean, could I then use your rational and hate men?

 

[CannibalCrow]

^^^ Oh and if my math is wrong, I apologize. I had to sit down and actually try to figure that all out with neither of my folks being able to be contacted. I'd have to draw little pie charts, but I am too lazy, if I wanted to figure it out entirely.

 

[MEXCOM]

What do you consider "white"? That's a BIG generalization there. Reason being, there are white people from England, France, Italy, Spain, MEXICO and every other South American country (Yes, I have seen blonde haired/blue eyed mexicans and south americans.

Is this directed to me again or to askG? I've already given my responce.

I'm also Italian, and I get treated like everybody else that wears clothes like me. I get laid on the ground and cuffed at gun point because the cops are "looking for suspects" in this crime or that crime, all while telling me I'm not a suspect. Every time I get pulled over (for nothing), I get searched, and I go through a series of sobriety tests because I "could have been using drugs" (which is bullshit cause I'm not a drug user nor do I look like one). Yes, I go through this bullshit constantly, and I'm white as fuck. Do I go and blame an entire generation for being fuck offs and making the cops think I'm among the bad people? No. My generation consists of mostly fuck offs, people with no fuckin sense, but I don't blame everybody in my age group, just the idiots. It's the same shit.

I have not blamed any one for anything, it's good you don't, I'm merely reciting actual facts.

As an Italian man, study your Italian History before you speak on it. See, Benito Mussolini didn't have his country brainwashed like he wanted, like Hitler had Germany brainwashed. Don't generalize the Italian people because Mussolini tried to be Hitlers Protege. What happened when Mussolini slipped? The Italian people hung him upside down, shot him, cheered about it and then pissed on his corpse. So what does HE have to do with anything? That cat NEVER represented us as a people, don't believe everything you're told, and don't believe everything you read.

Is this to me or to 509? I'm not Italian. But if it was directed at me then you must know that Mussolini was VERY WELL liked. He had a following for being rebellious especially towards the invasions of Italy unto other nations, he was a nationalist who was very well versed on Marx, he was invited by parliament to run for office, once he and alot of other facists won, and he was also allowed to form a new government by Victor Emmanuel. I don;t think it gets much more liked than that.
Secondly he never slipped. The allies were winning the war, he was losing. If it weren't for outside interference I doubt that the people of Italy would ever rise up against him.

Then, when we came to America, the government showed us what segregation was as well. We were put through Angel and Ellis Islands, quarantined, some had to change their names to be americanized, then we were put into our own neighborhoods, just like everybody else. North Beach in San Francisco, Little Italy in Chicago, and Little Italy in New York just to name the most popular...we were seperated from everybody else in the country, too. We were called GINNY'S and WOP'S and GREASERS and EYE-TALIANS (people said that just to mock our shit). Funny thing is I still hear the shit to this day, from WHITE FOLKS.

But your forefathers had a choice to come here. African Americans didnt.

So, if it's hard NOT to hate white folks, go ahead and hate me...but in all actuality, I'm JUST LIKE YOU, only lighter.

Why should I hate you? Because it's easy to? No thanks pal.

 

[MEXCOM]

Instances of power abuse range from all over the color spectrum. Especially what one leader may do to his own people. But check out the word "Leader". I don't agree with a dang thing Dubya's doing. At all. Does he represent me? No. Am I mixed? Yes, I am. A quarter Cuban, quarter Irish on my dad's side, Half irish and there's some Cherokee somewhere far back on my mom's side, and some of this and that. I don't even know what else. But yes, a little native. I don't look it, I am sure. And it's too small a portion to claim anywhere. I think you have to be 1/16 or more Native to quote it. My white is the Irish, and whatever else my folks brought to the table. People in power may be of any race. But individuals are the ones who have to suffer if their leaders suck.

Then who do you support? Clinton? JFK? they're just as bad. And the fact that you are white launches you into the whites as a whole. I know it's not fair but I never said it was. It's just how things happen.'

On the same issue, could I also not say that Men, as a whole, have always been in leader positions? Have always caused wars? Have beaten their wives, made women property? Men, as a whole, of almost every nation at any time, have treated women like second class citizens? I mean, could I then use your rational and hate men?

If you want to then yes go ahead and hate men. I don't hate whites, I amde this very clear in my FIRST post.

 

[CannibalCrow]

All right, then we'll agree to disagree. I don't throw my alignment toward Clinton, nor JFK. I am a starving artist, very liberal, who just happens to stay away from political talk only because I don't feel represented. If I am thrown into the category of "white", then I am. But seriously now, if you saw me and felt it were easy to hate me, then I am sorry it's come to that. My people were starving in poor countries, and we were lower class. Starving Irish folks, Cubans who felt oppressed, and Natives who didn't have a choice. Yea, the Irish had a choice to come over, as did the Cubans, but we sat at the bottom rung. Ok, then you don't hate whites. I don't hate men. I don't hate. It's not easy to hate, in my case. It basically comes down to what you've seen, and what I've seen. And then that's how we draw our conclusions. And that's that.

 

[reppin_the_509]

What do you consider "white"? That's a BIG generalization there. Reason being, there are white people from England, France, Italy, Spain, MEXICO and every other South American country (Yes, I have seen blonde haired/blue eyed mexicans and south americans.

I'm also Italian, and I get treated like everybody else that wears clothes like me. I get laid on the ground and cuffed at gun point because the cops are "looking for suspects" in this crime or that crime, all while telling me I'm not a suspect. Every time I get pulled over (for nothing), I get searched, and I go through a series of sobriety tests because I "could have been using drugs" (which is bullshit cause I'm not a drug user nor do I look like one). Yes, I go through this bullshit constantly, and I'm white as fuck. Do I go and blame an entire generation for being fuck offs and making the cops think I'm among the bad people? No. My generation consists of mostly fuck offs, people with no fuckin sense, but I don't blame everybody in my age group, just the idiots. It's the same shit.

As an Italian man, study your Italian History before you speak on it. See, Benito Mussolini didn't have his country brainwashed like he wanted, like Hitler had Germany brainwashed. Don't generalize the Italian people because Mussolini tried to be Hitlers Protege. What happened when Mussolini slipped? The Italian people hung him upside down, shot him, cheered about it and then pissed on his corpse. So what does HE have to do with anything? That cat NEVER represented us as a people, don't believe everything you're told, and don't believe everything you read.

Then, when we came to America, the government showed us what segregation was as well. We were put through Angel and Ellis Islands, quarantined, some had to change their names to be americanized, then we were put into our own neighborhoods, just like everybody else. North Beach in San Francisco, Little Italy in Chicago, and Little Italy in New York just to name the most popular...we were seperated from everybody else in the country, too. We were called GINNY'S and WOP'S and GREASERS and EYE-TALIANS (people said that just to mock our shit). Funny thing is I still hear the shit to this day, from WHITE FOLKS.

So, if it's hard NOT to hate white folks, go ahead and hate me...but in all actuality, I'm JUST LIKE YOU, only lighter.

exactly what i'm sayin, it is not cause you blacc that you get pulled over by cops, it's cause most crime comes from the ghetto cause of drugs and shit our government provides, and everyone in the ghetto wears "blacc cloths" and so if you wear "blacc cloths" you get the same shit, and italians and other whites that imigrated over here got put in they own neighborhoods and called names just like the blaccs, and sayin the term "white america" is just ignerant cause most of the whites that are here got here the same way you did (imigration) and went throught the same shit.

 

[reppin_the_509]

and when i said "you" toward the end, i was adressin the blaccs

 

[krikon]

"look what we did for blaccs, we took um out they fuccin loin cloth, took they spear, took the horse, and gave um sean jon, fubu, south pole, a gat, and a fuccin bently."

Reppin509, that gotta be one of the most prejudice and disgusting coments iv'e read in a while. So you you say black pepole should be thankfull for the slavery, that white man took em to USA and treated em like animals?

And, do you know shit bout Africa, have you ever been there, seen any spearchuckers lately? Have you surfed the internet in Gambia, listened to Senegalese hiphop, what do you know about the Nigerian filmindusty etc.... African countries aint living in the stoneage, they got the same shit as everyone else, mobilephones and shit.

Im white but around pepole like you it's almost embarasing to admit that. If i where black i would also give u a hard time, if i where in the crowds i u hang whit i would be one of the white guys who would give u a hard time. U disgust me.

 

[Sydal]

Yea, reppin, you and I are not on the same page with comments like that. Do you think it's good that those fucks stole people from Africa and enslaved them? Do you think it's good that some rich white fuckers put those guns into the hands of the innercity youth? Do you understand that those guns were put into the hands of children in hopes they would eliminate each other? I'm not talkin about just black folks, I'm talkin about innercity youth...whether they're black, Italian, Mexican, Asian, etc...those weapons were planted on the streets by higher powers, and we need to turn it around, and take the guns out of the hands of children so we all stop killing each other.

That is also some of the most prejudice shit I've ever read...and it's comments like that, like Krikon said, that disgust me, and embarass me.

 

[askG]

@white devil...i dont have to go into detail about shit...if youre colored you know exactly what im talking about...i garuantee you the majority of whites (every pale skinned uncolored person regardless of roots) in this country think that discrimination is a thing of the past wether it be social or job type...and the thing is, ppl dont have to come out and say shit for me to feel it, being colored and having had experiences with racism and discrimination, i could listen to somebodys stance on politics, immigration, bilingual teaching, etc etc...and know exactly were that person stands, it might sound crazy, but i could talk to somebody and know after a few minutes of talking to them what type of person they are as far as race issues and feelings go...it might sound stupid, it might sound dumb and inane...but when youve actually lived the life of a colored person, you cant say shit to the contrary...any other colred with me on this...the shit doesnt have to be out in the open, doesnt have to be in my face, i can sense it...and i hate to stereotype a while bunch of whites...but this country has a feeling of superiority and it breeds racism...and really, whos country is it really?its the white mans country, i might see more mexicans living here ina few yrs, but i wont see any non white non male person sitting in the white house running the country anytime soon, it would be a slap in the face to so many of these ppl who feel threatened by us being here.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

A simple understanding in science would end all this nonsense. Race doesn’t make the man, environment(society/culture) makes the man.

Evolution of Skin

 

[askG]

^^^^^^^^

of course we all came from the same ppl, but as we stand here today, we are different, wether it be because of our climates and surroundings, were different, languages, cultures, skin tones, etc etc, it makes us all different...you could show some racist skinhead in alabama ll the scientific evidence you want about humans coming from africa or whatever, and he wont give a shit about it, he wouldnt even give it a thought, hes still going to be the same person.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Yeah that's because he will choose not to accept it, but if he was taught science as a kid, race would not be an issue.

 

[EDJ]

BROWN MASK,

YES.

TO ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE COO' WITH ME,
HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE YOU THINK EXIST WITH THE MENTALITY OF 509 REPPIN'?

 

[Ethereal]

@white devil...i dont have to go into detail about shit...if youre colored you know exactly what im talking about...i garuantee you the majority of whites (every pale skinned uncolored person regardless of roots) in this country think that discrimination is a thing of the past wether it be social or job type

I'm glad you said this. Now think about what you just said, think really hard and deep. You said that the majority of "white" people believe discrimination is a thing of the past. Just so you know, I agree with you, but with a different understanding of what it means. You seem to be implying that "white" Americans are ignorant or blind of the struggle. Now, while that may be true, there is something you are overlooking. But first let me say this: You can never rightly group white people together as a culture, religion, nationality, or any other common characteristic (unlike those found in other humans), thus using the term "white people" will inevitably prove to be useless. I know I have said it over and over, but it is important to know who you are speaking to when discussing race issues, and saying "white people" is just an easy way out. Be specific, stop falsely accusing others, and stop generalizing, and you will find (for the most part) that "white" people are more willing to listen - do you think this whole "whining minority" idea came from nowhere? It came from white people who listened to an assload of misconceptions from minorities. Now take the majority of white people that you believe think discrimination is a thing of the past; it's funny because that statement you made argues itself. If a "white person" thinks that discrimination is history, then in that person's mind, and to those minorities who confront him, would the statement not hold true? It makes no sense for one to think discrimination is in the past, only to be a person who discriminates. And it makes no sense for someone to believe in something that they also believe no longer exists, or as you put it, is a thing of the past. Now apply this to the "majority" of "white" people in this country.

of course we all came from the same ppl, but as we stand here today, we are different, wether it be because of our climates and surroundings, were different, languages, cultures, skin tones, etc etc, it makes us all different...you could show some racist skinhead in alabama ll the scientific evidence you want about humans coming from africa or whatever, and he wont give a shit about it, he wouldnt even give it a thought, hes still going to be the same person.

But "white" people are different from one another. Take that skinhead from Alabama, and take a "white" man from the million man march, set them side by side, and tell me, is using the term "white people" invalid in any arguement/debate that is trying to reach the truth?

The only exception would be saying something like "white people have it easier than blacks", but to assert characteristics to a skin color is IGNORANT.

 

[askG]

^^

i lump white ppl together because here they are together...you look at an irish white man in ireland, how is he living?is it the same lifestyle his irish immigrant family in america is living?...when im grouping all these ppl of white skin together, its because they are one...once a group establishes itself in america, they live the way americans live, wether they be from sweeden or ireland...when i say white ppl i refer to whites living the american lifestyle...just like mexican americans dont live their lives like mexicans in mexico, not sure im making sense...now tell me this shit isnt true...could you tell a white man whose family came from ireland, apart from a white man whose family came from germany?...after so many genertations, these labels as far as germans or french cease to exist...mr.belvederes great great grandpa might have come here from germany, but now mr.belvedere is americanized, hes living like a white american, thats what i mean when i say whites...so many generations have been around that most ppl dont know where the fuck they came from...being german in germany is not the same as being german in america, especially if that german was born here.

im not talking about whites living outside of this country, when i say whites i mean the white ppl who live here, who are racially integrated in schools, neighborhoods, boys club etc etc....we lump all hispanics together, wether they be puerto rican or costa rican, we dont say jameel is jamaican, we lump him in the same category as muhmu from africa...its fucked up but thats the way we do it here in america, we lump colors together...most whites here in america wether they be from here or there, pretty much live the same lifestyle, sure you got your exceptions here and there, but for the most part, its all the same lifestyle.

 

[Sydal]

^^^^
Here you are grouping white people together, and kinda goin' off on them, yet you have a picture of 3 Italians and an Italian-Scot-Irishman in your signature. That makes a lot of sense. Do you group them together with the ignorant "whites" that you speak of? If so, you shouldn't pay any kind of homage to them. That's another thing, it's funny how cats take on the names of Mob Bosses, then turn around and say "fuck white people". Makes sense, right?

A lot of the families who migrated here (like mine), did so more recently than the English. My family, for example, has not been in the United States for a century yet. My family was seperated from other white folks as far as neighborhoods and what not go, the only difference is, the Italian blood and bond is so strong that we could give a fuck if you put us in the same place as other Italians, we get along great, and most of us have the same values, and it's funny because the WHITE MEN that put us in those neighborhoods probably didn't know we clicked so well. So, really, how could you group us together like that? You should study up on the biggest lynching event in United States History, when a shitload of Italians were hung at the same time. I understand it didn't happen a lot, but when it did happen it was on a larger scale.

With all that said, your theory and opinion makes no sense. How could people like myself, who don't have a long family history in America, and grip our cultures tightly, who have gone through a lot of shit since we set foot in this country....not understand struggle and not understand y'all? How could we be put in the same pot as the people who hated us?

Get your mind right. Everybody needs to think about shit like this before they speak on it, because when they don't it sounds just as ignorant as them old redneck boys in the deep south. If you want to judge people, judge individually, not by the group. If some dude made a derogatory statement to you down the block, don't walk a block up and hit me for it, ya feel me?

 

[45Yr Old Virgin]

no, i am incosiderate to white folks.

 

[Sydal]

I'm inconsiderate towards the ignorant.