Any thoughts on Min. Farrakhan and the N.O.I.?
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Next to laughing bathers on Coney Island where he works as a lifeguard, Simon Deng tells the story of his past - a story from a different universe. As a child, Mr. Deng was a slave for two years.
Born into a large family in southern Sudan, Deng was raised Christian. He describes his village of Tonga as a "peaceful farming community," yet he remembers frequent raids by Muslim Sudanese in army trucks from the north, burning huts and scattering livestock.
"One of the first things I was told ... if the Arab men come, just run, run for your life," Deng recalls.
One day, at the age of 8 or 9, Deng was helping a stranger from the north load packages onto a boat. The next thing he knew, he was captive in a small cabin as the boat headed for Khartoum, the nation's capital. There, the stranger sold Deng and several other boys to wealthy families.
Deng spent the next two years with the family about 200 miles northwest of Khartoum. As a domestic servant, he tended their donkeys and goats, cleaned, washed dishes, and hauled massive barrels of water up from the river several times a day. He slept in straw in the corner of the kitchen, was rarely given enough food, and endured regular beatings.
Like the majority of families in northern Sudan, Deng's "owners" were Muslim, and they often urged him to convert to Islam. They told him that if he did so they would accept him as their own son, but he refused. At the age of 11, Deng escaped with the aid of a man he knew from his hometown. He went on to work as a messenger in the Sudanese parliament and later to become a national swimming champion.
Today, Deng still has scars from boyhood beatings (although the marks on his face are cosmetic). He devotes his time to working with worldwide antislavery groups. He says he cannot remain silent. "I thought I could forget and forgive," Deng says. "But villages are still being burnt, women are still being raped, and people are being sold into slavery."
Born into a large family in southern Sudan, Deng was raised Christian. He describes his village of Tonga as a "peaceful farming community," yet he remembers frequent raids by Muslim Sudanese in army trucks from the north, burning huts and scattering livestock.
"One of the first things I was told ... if the Arab men come, just run, run for your life," Deng recalls.
One day, at the age of 8 or 9, Deng was helping a stranger from the north load packages onto a boat. The next thing he knew, he was captive in a small cabin as the boat headed for Khartoum, the nation's capital. There, the stranger sold Deng and several other boys to wealthy families.
Deng spent the next two years with the family about 200 miles northwest of Khartoum. As a domestic servant, he tended their donkeys and goats, cleaned, washed dishes, and hauled massive barrels of water up from the river several times a day. He slept in straw in the corner of the kitchen, was rarely given enough food, and endured regular beatings.
Like the majority of families in northern Sudan, Deng's "owners" were Muslim, and they often urged him to convert to Islam. They told him that if he did so they would accept him as their own son, but he refused. At the age of 11, Deng escaped with the aid of a man he knew from his hometown. He went on to work as a messenger in the Sudanese parliament and later to become a national swimming champion.
Today, Deng still has scars from boyhood beatings (although the marks on his face are cosmetic). He devotes his time to working with worldwide antislavery groups. He says he cannot remain silent. "I thought I could forget and forgive," Deng says. "But villages are still being burnt, women are still being raped, and people are being sold into slavery."
The major juristic schools of Islam traditionally accepted the institution of slavery.[1] Muhammad and many of his companions bought, sold, freed, and captured slaves. Slaves benefited from Islamic dispensations which improved their situation relative to that in pre-Islamic society.[1] At the end of 19th century a shift in Muslim thought and interpretation of the Qur'an occurred, and slavery became seen as opposed to Islamic principles of justice and equality.[2] This interpretation has not been accepted by Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia.[3]
In Islamic law , the topic of Islam and slavery is covered at great length.[1] The Qur'an, the holy book, and the hadith, the sayings of Muhammad, see slavery as an exceptional condition that can be entered into under certain limited circumstances.[3] They also consider manumission of a slave to be one of many meritorious deeds available for the expiation of sins.[4] For a variety of reasons, internal growth of the slave population was not enough to fulfill the demand in Muslim society. This resulted in massive importation, which involved enormous suffering and loss of life from the capture and transportation of slaves from non-Muslim lands.[5] In theory, slavery in Islamic law does not have a racial or color component, although this has not always been the case in practice.[6]
The Arab slave trade was most active in West Asia, North Africa and East Africa. and by the end of the 19th century such activity had reached a low ebb. In the early 20th century (post World War I) slavery was gradually outlawed and suppressed in Muslim lands, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.[3] However, slavery claiming the sanction of Islam is documented presently in the African republics of Chad, Mauritania, Niger, Mali and Sudan.
In Islamic law , the topic of Islam and slavery is covered at great length.[1] The Qur'an, the holy book, and the hadith, the sayings of Muhammad, see slavery as an exceptional condition that can be entered into under certain limited circumstances.[3] They also consider manumission of a slave to be one of many meritorious deeds available for the expiation of sins.[4] For a variety of reasons, internal growth of the slave population was not enough to fulfill the demand in Muslim society. This resulted in massive importation, which involved enormous suffering and loss of life from the capture and transportation of slaves from non-Muslim lands.[5] In theory, slavery in Islamic law does not have a racial or color component, although this has not always been the case in practice.[6]
The Arab slave trade was most active in West Asia, North Africa and East Africa. and by the end of the 19th century such activity had reached a low ebb. In the early 20th century (post World War I) slavery was gradually outlawed and suppressed in Muslim lands, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.[3] However, slavery claiming the sanction of Islam is documented presently in the African republics of Chad, Mauritania, Niger, Mali and Sudan.
From the last few years:
Sri Lankan Civil War
Indian-Bangladeshi border conflict
Civil War in Côte d'Ivoire
Darfur conflict
2004 Haitian coup d'état
Central African Republic Bush War
Kivu conflict
Ivorian-French War
War in Chad (2005–present)
Mexican Drug War
Second Tuareg Rebellion
Civil unrest in Kenya (2007–2008)
2008 invasion of Anjouan
Naxalite (Maoist) insurgency in India
Kivu conflict
That's just a few things
So which ones involve Muslims again? The US invasion of Afghanistan (don't think that has to do with Muslims though). Iraq war (also nothing to do with Muuuzzlums). The Lebanon/Israeli War.
Sri Lankan Civil War
Indian-Bangladeshi border conflict
Civil War in Côte d'Ivoire
Darfur conflict
2004 Haitian coup d'état
Central African Republic Bush War
Kivu conflict
Ivorian-French War
War in Chad (2005–present)
Mexican Drug War
Second Tuareg Rebellion
Civil unrest in Kenya (2007–2008)
2008 invasion of Anjouan
Naxalite (Maoist) insurgency in India
Kivu conflict
That's just a few things
So which ones involve Muslims again? The US invasion of Afghanistan (don't think that has to do with Muslims though). Iraq war (also nothing to do with Muuuzzlums). The Lebanon/Israeli War.
What is up with anti-Islamic propaganda? At the school I go to (CSUS), these bible groups hand out flyer's with a bunch of negative shit about the religion of Islam on it. Anybody talking shit about another religion while believing theirs is "correct" is an idiot.
The problems that stem from religions don't have to do with just Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc., The problems stem from the power vested in these institutions and the conflict of ALL religions and not just one. Don't take your fuckin religion out of the context of humanity and history of the Earth, it's ALL RELATED!
The problems that stem from religions don't have to do with just Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc., The problems stem from the power vested in these institutions and the conflict of ALL religions and not just one. Don't take your fuckin religion out of the context of humanity and history of the Earth, it's ALL RELATED!
IT'S NOT ANTI-MUSLIM PROPAGANDA PER SE. KEV HAS NOTHING AGAINST MUSLIMS. HE'S JUST EXPOSING THE TRUTH ON HOW MANY BLACKS ARE TREATED BY MANY MUSLIMS IN MANY PARTS OF AFRICA, AND HE'S REVEALING A CULTURAL ACCEPTANCE OF SLAVERY WITHIN ISLAM ON A HISTORICAL LEVEL. KEV IS BLACK, FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW.
NOW IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ASK WHAT IS UP WITH ALL THE ANTI-JEWISH PROPAGANDA IN HERE. NOW THERE'S A VALID QUESTION.
Comedy.
Kev and Solitary
Maybe you two need to review the World Tour the Min. Farrakhan went on when he went to all those countries you say "wants him as a slave". They treated that man like royalty. Google it. Also, if you go on FINALCALL.COM, you will be able to order a DVD/VHS/CD/Audio Tape of a lecture given by Bro. Sharief Muhammad who was at one time the Supreme Captain. He spoke in great detail on the treatment overseas.....ALSO we have an International Minister Akbar Muhammad who is BASED in Africa. Do yall homework please
Kev and Solitary
Maybe you two need to review the World Tour the Min. Farrakhan went on when he went to all those countries you say "wants him as a slave". They treated that man like royalty. Google it. Also, if you go on FINALCALL.COM, you will be able to order a DVD/VHS/CD/Audio Tape of a lecture given by Bro. Sharief Muhammad who was at one time the Supreme Captain. He spoke in great detail on the treatment overseas.....ALSO we have an International Minister Akbar Muhammad who is BASED in Africa. Do yall homework please