Any thoughts on Min. Farrakhan and the N.O.I.?

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Kev and Solitary

Maybe you two need to review the World Tour the Min. Farrakhan went on when he went to all those countries you say "wants him as a slave". They treated that man like royalty. Google it. Also, if you go on FINALCALL.COM, you will be able to order a DVD/VHS/CD/Audio Tape of a lecture given by Bro. Sharief Muhammad who was at one time the Supreme Captain. He spoke in great detail on the treatment overseas.....ALSO we have an International Minister Akbar Muhammad who is BASED in Africa. Do yall homework please
LOL, What he said......
 
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Dont give up so easy in what you believe KEV!

Report on The
World Friendship Tour III
Obey God, prepare to meet the world,
Min. Farrakhan urges

CHICAGO-Speaking to an overflow crowd at Mosque Maryam, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan urged the Nation of Islam and Black America to prepare to meet the world by focusing on obedience to God and preparing for new international opportunity.

"Obedience to God will give you access to power to actually become a perfect reflection of God," Min. Farrakhan told the audience. Min. Farrakhan, speaking about his recent World Friendship Tour III, stressed the need for understanding that Islam, submission to the will of God, is more important than ritual and transcends the names given to religion. Submission to God is in the nature of human beings, he said.

The Minister visited nearly 40 countries in less than three months as part of a tour that took him to Asia, Africa, Canada, the Caribbean, Australia and other parts of the earth. He returned to a rousing welcome on Feb. 20, just prior to the Nation of Islam's annual Saviours' Day observance.

"All of you are so much more powerful than what you're manifesting, the only thing you need is a better connection to the Creator and better obedience to His Will, and you will find the power that is within connecting to the Supreme Power. Than there is no power in the heavens above or in the earth beneath that can stop the rise of the Black man in America to the position that God has already marked out for us. We just have to get up and go there," Min. Farrakhan said.

Turning to his World Tour III, the Minister said: "We met with Heads of State and government that truly love us and want us to be better than what we are and to move at a faster, faster pace. Our people are suffering in Africa and our Arab-Muslim family is suffering in the Middle East and our Palestinian family is suffering in their own country.

"It's the same in New Zealand with the Maori people, it's the same in Australia with the aboriginal people. I want you now to think about the Nation of Islam being all over the world. Everywhere we went they said you must establish a mission of the Nation of Islam here. These are Muslim countries but they loved what they saw and heard coming from us," Min. Farrakhan said.

Arabic, French, Spanish, an Asian language and Portuguese must be learned in order to communicate with the peoples of the earth, he added.

Future plans call for a trade delegation to revisit countries that were stops on the world tour, said Min. Farrakhan. "We made promises to governments and we're going to fulfill our promise," the Minister said. "There are all kinds of investment opportunities: diamonds, gold, uranium, oil. Africa is open and the Europeans are coming in with money and are taking Africa. They (Africans) are ready to sell gold mines to us, they're ready for us to develop gold. Where's Michael Jackson? Where's Shaquille O'Neal? We need to pull our monied people together and let's do some business ... . We can only build a nation on a strong economic foundation that's built on business-agriculture, agribusiness," Min. Farrakhan said.

Min. Farrakhan also announced plans to reach out to Imam W. Deen Muhammad, a son of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and leader of a Muslim community in America, in the spirit of reconciliation. In addition to spreading the message of atonement and reconciliation worldwide, the Minister said, differences at home have to be worked on.
 
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Report on The
World Friendship Tour III



The Minister visited nearly 40 countries in less than three months as part of a tour that took him to Asia, Africa, Canada, the Caribbean, Australia and other parts of the earth. He returned to a rousing welcome on Feb. 20, just prior to the Nation of Islam's annual Saviours' Day observance.


the Minister said: "We met with Heads of State and government that truly love us and want us to be better than what we are and to move at a faster, faster pace. Our people are suffering in Africa and our Arab-Muslim family is suffering in the Middle East and our Palestinian family is suffering in their own country.

"It's the same in New Zealand with the Maori people, it's the same in Australia with the aboriginal people. I want you now to think about the Nation of Islam being all over the world. Everywhere we went they said you must establish a mission of the Nation of Islam here. These are Muslim countries but they loved what they saw and heard coming from us," Min. Farrakhan said.

Arabic, French, Spanish, an Asian language and Portuguese must be learned in order to communicate with the peoples of the earth, he added.
All of what he spoke, World Friendship Tours I, II, III is on DVD/Video so you (Kev & Sol) can see for yourself. Cause from reading what you wrote, soon as he went over there, they looked at him as a slave.....
 
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lol you're so full of shit

,we had disagreements on the n.o.i., but dont get it twisted.

if n.o.i. works for you then fine with me its your life not mine, i stand by my statements and backed it up with facts, noi is for misguided souls who for the most part are Milatant


Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield (Dar-ul-Harb). Once it has converted to Islam (or all its citizens have been slaughtered or driven out), it then becomes a Land of Peace (Dar-us-Salaam). For those who think that the threat of Islam is only a phenomenon of the Middle East, think again! Although the Jewish State of Israel has been fighting a brave and fierce battle against Islam for over 50 years, there are many other "hot spots" in the world.

For example, the supreme Taliban's hard line leader in Afghanistan, Mullah Mohammed Omar, issued an edict that Buddhist statues insulted Islam. Apparently no one clued in Mullah Mohammed Omar that Islam is an insult to humanity! In any event, within days of his edict, all Buddhist statues, including a giant 5th century Buddha at Bamiyan carved out of sandstone (see photos), were destroyed as the "civilized" world could only stand by and watch it happen.

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Unfortunately, most people aren’t aware of Islam's murderous philosophy or they find it too monstrous to believe. However, a brief review of recent history and current events should make you doubters out there re-think your position. Two articles in the L.A. Times wrote about Muslims in Indonesia forcing Christians of all denominations to convert to Islam or get their throats slit. Thousands upon thousands of Christians were first converted and, according to rigid Islamic religious dictate, forced to undergo sexual mutilation of their foreskin or clitoris (with kitchen knives and razor blades) to make them conform to Muslim standards. Then they were are enslaved to their local Muslim chieftain. This was not some aberration of Islam but rather business as usual for all but the so-called "moderate" factions. This is Islam's sad legacy of murder, terror, lies and brainwashing to advance their cause of global conversion and subjugation... their so-called "personal struggle"... THEIR "Jihad!"

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Other examples: Algeria is wracked by bitter fighting between Islamic Fundamentalists and the military. Death toll, 100,000 over a ten year period! Nigeria is in the midst of a war in which Muslims are murdering Christians and burning down their churches. Moslems against Christians. It doesn't take much to trigger an angry mob of Muslims. The Miss Universe Pageant was help there at the end of 2002. Muslim opposition to the pageant boiled over after a local journalist wrote that the prophet Mohammed would have approved of the contest and might even have wanted to marry one of the contestants. The ensuing riots in Kaduna left 220 dead and 400 wounded. In Kenya the Islamic Party has declared Holy War on the government. In Turkey the secular Muslim government is being challenged by the militant Refah Islamic Party. A civil war rages in the Sudan between Muslims in the north against the Christians in the south. Sudan's militant Muslim regime is slaughtering Christians who refuse to convert to Islam. In recent years, more than two million Sudanese have been killed out of a population of 35 million as its government used bombings and famine in its war on its own people. Read this shocking June 2, 2004 World Net Daily article.

A war also raged between Muslim Eritrea and Christian Ethiopia. The result of fighting between Muslim Azerbaijans and Christian Armenians was 35,000 casualties. Armenia was shrunk because of territory "gained" by the "breeding-with-a- vengeance" Muslims population. Serbian Moslems looted Christian treasures in the process of destroying 107 churches and monasteries, both ancient and modern. In the former Soviet Union, breakaway Muslim republics (and their 55 million Muslims)... Chechnya (click HERE), Daghestan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan... have sparked insurrection against Orthodox Russian regimes and by the year 2050, Russia will be forced out of Central Asia by Islamic invaders from without AND within (Muslims have a birth rate 5 times that of non-Muslim Russians). The Great Russian Bear will be driven into permanent hibernation!

Will non-Islamic nations be forced to build a "Giant Wall" as China did to keep out the Islamicized Monguls? Will the electronically-enhanced, concrete wall the Israeli I.D.F. recently erected keep out the Arab-Palestinian terrorists?
 
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,we had disagreements on the n.o.i., but dont get it twisted.

if n.o.i. works for you then fine with me its your life not mine, i stand by my statements and backed it up with facts, noi is for misguided souls who for the most part are Milatant


Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield (Dar-ul-Harb). Once it has converted to Islam (or all its citizens have been slaughtered or driven out), it then becomes a Land of Peace (Dar-us-Salaam). For those who think that the threat of Islam is only a phenomenon of the Middle East, think again! Although the Jewish State of Israel has been fighting a brave and fierce battle against Islam for over 50 years, there are many other "hot spots" in the world.

For example, the supreme Taliban's hard line leader in Afghanistan, Mullah Mohammed Omar, issued an edict that Buddhist statues insulted Islam. Apparently no one clued in Mullah Mohammed Omar that Islam is an insult to humanity! In any event, within days of his edict, all Buddhist statues, including a giant 5th century Buddha at Bamiyan carved out of sandstone (see photos), were destroyed as the "civilized" world could only stand by and watch it happen.

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Unfortunately, most people aren’t aware of Islam's murderous philosophy or they find it too monstrous to believe. However, a brief review of recent history and current events should make you doubters out there re-think your position. Two articles in the L.A. Times wrote about Muslims in Indonesia forcing Christians of all denominations to convert to Islam or get their throats slit. Thousands upon thousands of Christians were first converted and, according to rigid Islamic religious dictate, forced to undergo sexual mutilation of their foreskin or clitoris (with kitchen knives and razor blades) to make them conform to Muslim standards. Then they were are enslaved to their local Muslim chieftain. This was not some aberration of Islam but rather business as usual for all but the so-called "moderate" factions. This is Islam's sad legacy of murder, terror, lies and brainwashing to advance their cause of global conversion and subjugation... their so-called "personal struggle"... THEIR "Jihad!"

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Other examples: Algeria is wracked by bitter fighting between Islamic Fundamentalists and the military. Death toll, 100,000 over a ten year period! Nigeria is in the midst of a war in which Muslims are murdering Christians and burning down their churches. Moslems against Christians. It doesn't take much to trigger an angry mob of Muslims. The Miss Universe Pageant was help there at the end of 2002. Muslim opposition to the pageant boiled over after a local journalist wrote that the prophet Mohammed would have approved of the contest and might even have wanted to marry one of the contestants. The ensuing riots in Kaduna left 220 dead and 400 wounded. In Kenya the Islamic Party has declared Holy War on the government. In Turkey the secular Muslim government is being challenged by the militant Refah Islamic Party. A civil war rages in the Sudan between Muslims in the north against the Christians in the south. Sudan's militant Muslim regime is slaughtering Christians who refuse to convert to Islam. In recent years, more than two million Sudanese have been killed out of a population of 35 million as its government used bombings and famine in its war on its own people. Read this shocking June 2, 2004 World Net Daily article.

A war also raged between Muslim Eritrea and Christian Ethiopia. The result of fighting between Muslim Azerbaijans and Christian Armenians was 35,000 casualties. Armenia was shrunk because of territory "gained" by the "breeding-with-a- vengeance" Muslims population. Serbian Moslems looted Christian treasures in the process of destroying 107 churches and monasteries, both ancient and modern. In the former Soviet Union, breakaway Muslim republics (and their 55 million Muslims)... Chechnya (click HERE), Daghestan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan... have sparked insurrection against Orthodox Russian regimes and by the year 2050, Russia will be forced out of Central Asia by Islamic invaders from without AND within (Muslims have a birth rate 5 times that of non-Muslim Russians). The Great Russian Bear will be driven into permanent hibernation!

Will non-Islamic nations be forced to build a "Giant Wall" as China did to keep out the Islamicized Monguls? Will the electronically-enhanced, concrete wall the Israeli I.D.F. recently erected keep out the Arab-Palestinian terrorists?
You should post your sources when pasting info from other websites:

http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

^^anti-islam/pro-israel website. #1 link on their site? Michael Savage. haha
 
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,we had disagreements on the n.o.i., but dont get it twisted.

if n.o.i. works for you then fine
with me its your life not mine, i stand by my statements and backed it up with facts, noi is for misguided souls who for the most part are Milatant


Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield (Dar-ul-Harb). Once it has converted to Islam (or all its citizens have been slaughtered or driven out), it then becomes a Land of Peace (Dar-us-Salaam). For those who think that the threat of Islam is only a phenomenon of the Middle East, think again! Although the Jewish State of Israel has been fighting a brave and fierce battle against Islam for over 50 years, there are many other "hot spots" in the world.

For example, the supreme Taliban's hard line leader in Afghanistan, Mullah Mohammed Omar, issued an edict that Buddhist statues insulted Islam. Apparently no one clued in Mullah Mohammed Omar that Islam is an insult to humanity! In any event, within days of his edict, all Buddhist statues, including a giant 5th century Buddha at Bamiyan carved out of sandstone (see photos), were destroyed as the "civilized" world could only stand by and watch it happen.

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Unfortunately, most people aren’t aware of Islam's murderous philosophy or they find it too monstrous to believe. However, a brief review of recent history and current events should make you doubters out there re-think your position. Two articles in the L.A. Times wrote about Muslims in Indonesia forcing Christians of all denominations to convert to Islam or get their throats slit. Thousands upon thousands of Christians were first converted and, according to rigid Islamic religious dictate, forced to undergo sexual mutilation of their foreskin or clitoris (with kitchen knives and razor blades) to make them conform to Muslim standards. Then they were are enslaved to their local Muslim chieftain. This was not some aberration of Islam but rather business as usual for all but the so-called "moderate" factions. This is Islam's sad legacy of murder, terror, lies and brainwashing to advance their cause of global conversion and subjugation... their so-called "personal struggle"... THEIR "Jihad!"

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Other examples: Algeria is wracked by bitter fighting between Islamic Fundamentalists and the military. Death toll, 100,000 over a ten year period! Nigeria is in the midst of a war in which Muslims are murdering Christians and burning down their churches. Moslems against Christians. It doesn't take much to trigger an angry mob of Muslims. The Miss Universe Pageant was help there at the end of 2002. Muslim opposition to the pageant boiled over after a local journalist wrote that the prophet Mohammed would have approved of the contest and might even have wanted to marry one of the contestants. The ensuing riots in Kaduna left 220 dead and 400 wounded. In Kenya the Islamic Party has declared Holy War on the government. In Turkey the secular Muslim government is being challenged by the militant Refah Islamic Party. A civil war rages in the Sudan between Muslims in the north against the Christians in the south. Sudan's militant Muslim regime is slaughtering Christians who refuse to convert to Islam. In recent years, more than two million Sudanese have been killed out of a population of 35 million as its government used bombings and famine in its war on its own people. Read this shocking June 2, 2004 World Net Daily article.

A war also raged between Muslim Eritrea and Christian Ethiopia. The result of fighting between Muslim Azerbaijans and Christian Armenians was 35,000 casualties. Armenia was shrunk because of territory "gained" by the "breeding-with-a- vengeance" Muslims population. Serbian Moslems looted Christian treasures in the process of destroying 107 churches and monasteries, both ancient and modern. In the former Soviet Union, breakaway Muslim republics (and their 55 million Muslims)... Chechnya (click HERE), Daghestan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan... have sparked insurrection against Orthodox Russian regimes and by the year 2050, Russia will be forced out of Central Asia by Islamic invaders from without AND within (Muslims have a birth rate 5 times that of non-Muslim Russians). The Great Russian Bear will be driven into permanent hibernation!

Will non-Islamic nations be forced to build a "Giant Wall" as China did to keep out the Islamicized Monguls? Will the electronically-enhanced, concrete wall the Israeli I.D.F. recently erected keep out the Arab-Palestinian terrorists?
First of all, I'm not a Muslim. Second of all, you said Islam is an anti black religion. You never posted anything from the Qur'an to support that claim, just a bunch of unrelated circumstantial and/or unsubstantiated bullshit. You didnt even cite any sources.
 
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Well there it is, a "History Major".

What school Sir? Was it here in the states?

So you being a former History major makes you an expert?

Who is/was your teacher?

Remember a people that wont treat you right, WONT teach you right.

I speak from the NATION, not those cats that run your favorite corner store, but the NATION under the leadership of Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan
He is not very honorable, in fact he has promoted anti-semite beliefs and lies for years. If you are in any shape or form following this person then you really need to re-evaluate your life. Louis may not have killed Malcom but trust me knows people who were involved. He speaks no more justice then Hitler did.
 
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,we had disagreements on the n.o.i., but dont get it twisted.

if n.o.i. works for you then fine with me its your life not mine, i stand by my statements and backed it up with facts, noi is for misguided souls who for the most part are Milatant


Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield (Dar-ul-Harb). Once it has converted to Islam (or all its citizens have been slaughtered or driven out), it then becomes a Land of Peace (Dar-us-Salaam). For those who think that the threat of Islam is only a phenomenon of the Middle East, think again! Although the Jewish State of Israel has been fighting a brave and fierce battle against Islam for over 50 years, there are many other "hot spots" in the world.

For example, the supreme Taliban's hard line leader in Afghanistan, Mullah Mohammed Omar, issued an edict that Buddhist statues insulted Islam. Apparently no one clued in Mullah Mohammed Omar that Islam is an insult to humanity! In any event, within days of his edict, all Buddhist statues, including a giant 5th century Buddha at Bamiyan carved out of sandstone (see photos), were destroyed as the "civilized" world could only stand by and watch it happen.


i quit reading after i read you talking about taliban like they represented the majority of muslims in the world.



"The Taliban, Persian for, ''the (Koran) students'' is a fundamentalist sect - in the sense of a dissenting religious group - of Islam. It is also considered by many Muslims to be a cult of Islam, in that the Taliban - while claiming to represent ''true Islam'' - deviate sharply from many of that faith's key tenets. The Taliban preach an extremist interpretation of Islam, known as Islamism.
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http://www.apologeticsindex.org/t19.html
 
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i quit reading after i read you talking about taliban like they represented the majority of muslims in the world.



"The Taliban, Persian for, ''the (Koran) students'' is a fundamentalist sect - in the sense of a dissenting religious group - of Islam. It is also considered by many Muslims to be a cult of Islam, in that the Taliban - while claiming to represent ''true Islam'' - deviate sharply from many of that faith's key tenets. The Taliban preach an extremist interpretation of Islam, known as Islamism.
"

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/t19.html
my comment was in response to the post above look it up
 
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KEV- Once again, I have read your words brother, and you seem to have an underlying agenda, in my humble opinion. The opinions that you just rattled off seem to be the same opinions that suddenly were the "norm" after the 9/11 incident in New York in which Bush blew up the buildings, (I mean "radical muslims" LOL). There is a 4th branch of the government, the American Media machine, whose job it is to get the masses of the people to think a certain way. Many americans have become so lazy to the point that they wont go seek out information for themselves, they would rather go off what a biased media has to say. It seems from your writing you are a student of the media and of propaganda that has been put in place to sway public opinion. This, I see is also form self admission that you were a "history major". so you are well versed in supporting the ideas of this country no matter what they may be.

For you to make a statement that the NOI is for misguided souls, I beg your pardon Sir. Where do you get off with such arrogance to even type something like that? It tells alot about your line of thinking and your heart. It seems you have picked something to latch on to, and you are riding on the beliefs of what was taught to you by a system that does not care for you. For you to make comparissons of the Taliban and the NOI, is comedy. What is wrong with the Taliban? They are a people defending themselves, and thier land. Cause they dont want Cheney over there drilling for oil, they should be demonized? At one time the Taliban were friends of the US government (did your history class tell you that?), but when the US try to bogart and push a line on the Taliban, basically try to punk them, they wasnt havin that, and they chose to fight. Right when they were'nt going along with this countries wicked agenda, then all of a sudden the media kicks in and begins to demonize a people, and this filters all the way to you, a person who would get on the Siccness and spew out your mouth the rhetoric of what the media has taught you. The irony is that the Siccness, rap, hip-hop, in general was based on a rebellious nature, but you are here to conform.
 
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Kev and Solitary

Maybe you two need to review the World Tour the Min. Farrakhan went on when he went to all those countries you say "wants him as a slave". They treated that man like royalty. Google it. Also, if you go on FINALCALL.COM, you will be able to order a DVD/VHS/CD/Audio Tape of a lecture given by Bro. Sharief Muhammad who was at one time the Supreme Captain. He spoke in great detail on the treatment overseas.....ALSO we have an International Minister Akbar Muhammad who is BASED in Africa. Do yall homework please
REESE- ARE YOU SERIOUS? DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME BECAUSE LUIS FARRAKHAN AND SOME OTHER HIGH RANKING NOI LEADERS WERE TREATED NICELY OVERSEAS THAT SOMEHOW NEGATES ALL THE HEINOUS SHIT MILLIONS OF BLACK FOLKS THROUGH SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA HAVE WENT THROUGH AT THE HANDS OF ARABIC MUSLIM SLAVE TRADERS AND CONQUERORS? DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN SITE THE "FINAL CALL", AS A LEGITIMATE SOURCE OF UNBIASED INFORMATION? THAT'S LIKE SOMEONE CITING FOX NEWS.

WOW.
 
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REESE- ARE YOU SERIOUS? DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME BECAUSE LUIS FARRAKHAN AND SOME OTHER HIGH RANKING NOI LEADERS WERE TREATED NICELY OVERSEAS THAT SOMEHOW NEGATES ALL THE HEINOUS SHIT MILLIONS OF BLACK FOLKS THROUGH SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA HAVE WENT THROUGH AT THE HANDS OF ARABIC MUSLIM SLAVE TRADERS AND CONQUERORS? DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN SITE THE "FINAL CALL", AS A LEGITIMATE SOURCE OF UNBIASED INFORMATION? THAT'S LIKE SOMEONE CITING FOX NEWS.

WOW.
They may have been muslim, but that is coincidental. Post the part of the Qur'an that says blacks are to be enslaved and it will shut everybody up. Until somebody can find that, the whole argument that Islam is a religion that advocates the enslavement of blacks is based on bullshit. Christians enslaved blacks too, does that mean Christianity is a religion that advocates black slavery? Because in that case, there are a lot more black Christians you need to be preaching to than black Muslims.
 
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You said that Black Folks get treated bad, and are potential slaves. Well Minister Farrakhan is black. He went with an entourage. You are so dead set on trying to prove something against Islam. I wonder what your motivation is? Every year the nation also has a trip to Africa that is open to all who want to go. They go sightseeing and what not. Those that go were not put into slavery as soon as they touch ground, and no, they were not "high ranking" within the Nation LOL. Also the Final Call Newspaper takes submissions, and editorials from outside sources. If you would pick up a paper and read one, you would know that. But it seems like you under that Willie Lynch syndrome, you gotta hear ot from them instead of from us or it wont be "official". Thats a dam shame.
 
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((((YAWN))))

Again that Anti-Semite talk has long been defeated. Have'nt you read the article that was posted on here a page or so back? You must not have seen that. It speaks to what you are saying. Are you two Jewish? Or just worried about Jewish affairs? The letter that the HONORABLE Min. Farrakhan wrote to Bush about the war and the invading of Iraq was hand delivered by a Jewish man. You two would be surprised who Farrakhan has backing him. Some known, some unknown. Black Hitler? LOL