An article for you FAGGOTS who supoort the legalization of drugs

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Gas One

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^ yep. thats real. i got family in the medical field..shits shady business...

you know what these drug companies do...buy the nurses and doctors lunch...like good food too...just to get them to push shit..

vacations and shit..

oxycodone wouldnt be damn near an epidemic had it not been for pharmeceutical companies and the leinency of doctors
 
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nhojsmith said:
meanwhile alcohol gets pushed on everyone since they turn 13 and is basically a requirement in the business world.

really though legalizing weed would be a bad thing for the economy. it allows you to chill for a moment and look at the bullshit. alcohol keeps you numb and apathetic. alcohol is good for business, good for keeping people slaves, its in the best interest of the powers that be. work on worker bees, the rich folks need your money to fix their yachts. another drink sir......?
real fuckin spit...

keep the masses numb and dumb...dont want 'em thinkin' too much
 

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yeah i added it in 4 min later or so

depends on what your perception of violent/drug crime is

'legalized' drugs are sold the same in alot of cases

stronger opiates exist in heroin circles, pharmeceutical speed exists in speed circles, and they are dealt the same with the same caution and carry jail time, so yes.legalized drugs do carry a stigma/correlation of crime

i think the difference is these 'legal' drugs can exist within two different cultures, the medical culture and the 'illegal drug culture' because realistically, regardless if its legal for one person, its not legal for the other if sold.

so it plays both sides of the fence

people will still run in your house with straps over a hundred 80mg OC's
 
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is that a serious question?

yes, of course...go to pubmed.com and search for "alcohol" and "crime", for example...might have to sift through thousands of articles to find the most relevant ones, though
 

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I didn't ask if legalized drugs carry a stigma of crime. I asked if there is a correlation between crime and legalized drugs. When I am speaking of crime, I am referring to TYPE 1, which would be "violent" crimes like murder, rape, robbery or any offense commited with a gun. TYPE 2 would be "property crimes" like theft, vandalism, burglary. Now, the question is, do you see people off legal meds commiting these types of offenses? If so, how do they compare to those commited by people who use illegal drugs?

The reason why legalized drugs carry a stigma is because of misuse by M.D.'s who know the patient shouldn't have the meds but give them anyway, and by those who abuse the medication (crazy soccor moms for example.) And the fact that illegal substances are often based on the legal substances adds more fire to the fuel.
 
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lmfao...save the pompous shit for somebody else...there is clear correlation between alcohol use/abuse and crime, violent crimes in particular...if you were looking for information on particular classes of "legalized drugs", YOU should have clarified your question
 

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X_KaLiBa said:
lmfao...save the pompous shit for somebody else...there is clear correlation between alcohol use/abuse and crime, violent crimes in particular...if you were looking for information on particular classes of "legalized drugs", YOU should have clarified your question
How is my reply pompus? If you had the ability to read exactly what was typed, and read the link I posted in regards to illicit drug use AND alcohol, you would know your question and information served NO PURPOSE, because alcohol is NOT considered a "drug" (when it comes to our legal system). I am NOT looking for information on "particular classes of legalized drugs", and I made myself VERY clear when I asked, "Is there a strong correlation between crime and "legalized" drugs?"

Do you understand what is being stated here, or have drugs warped your brain to the point where your cognitive skills operate at a slugs pace?
 
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here is your original question:

HERESY said:
Is there a strong correlation between crime and "legalized" drugs?
...and here is your long-winded follow-up of what you were ACTUALLY looking for:

HERESY said:
I didn't ask if legalized drugs carry a stigma of crime. I asked if there is a correlation between crime and legalized drugs. When I am speaking of crime, I am referring to TYPE 1, which would be "violent" crimes like murder, rape, robbery or any offense commited with a gun. TYPE 2 would be "property crimes" like theft, vandalism, burglary.) Now, the question is, do you see people off legal meds commiting these types of offenses? If so, how do they compare to those commited by people who use illegal drugs?
yea..."VERY clear" indeed...and your posts continue to be filled with contempt

done with you.................
 

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You are obviously an IDIOT. Go back and read what I am replying to:

Is there a strong correlation between crime and "legalized" drugs?
I said that right? Now go back and R-E-A-D the response by GAS and do so S-L-O-W-L-Y. What you just posted has NOTHING to do with anything, as GAS stated, "depends on what your perception of violent/drug crime is". Pay attention to the underlined words, junkie. I gave him my take on what "crime" was, and because I am a critical reader and have the ability to respond critically, I understood his use of "legal drugs" and that he was/is referring to prescribed medication (LEGAL DRUGS) when he referenced pharmeceutical speed and stronger opiates.

Do you now see how you're an idiot? I hope so. :)
 

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We are a nation of junkies

Keep up the good work hippies. Continue to purchase those pills, creams and dreams.

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Califano Calls for Fundamental Shift in Attitudes and Policies About Substance Abuse and Addiction

Illegal Drug Use Up From 1992 Lows; Americans, 4 Percent of World Population, Consume Two-Thirds of World's Illegal Drugs

NEW YORK, NY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 07, 2007 -- Calling substance abuse and addiction "a chronic disease of epidemic proportions with physical, psychological, emotional and spiritual elements that require continuing and holistic care," Joseph A. Califano, Jr., chairman and president of The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA*) at Columbia University and former U.S. Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, calls for a major shift in American attitudes about substance abuse and addiction and a top to bottom overhaul in the nation's health care, criminal justice, social service, and education systems, and awakening the power of parenting, to curtail the rise in illegal drug use and other substance abuse in his new book, "HIGH SOCIETY: How Substance Abuse Ravages America and What to Do About It." The book's call for a revolution in how the nation views and confronts abuse and addiction involving tobacco, alcohol, illegal and prescription drugs is based on 15 years of CASA research.

Americans, only four percent of the world's population, consume two-thirds of the world's illegal drugs. "All the huffing and puffing of the current war on drugs has not been able to blow down the nation's house of substance abuse and addiction," Califano notes, citing these facts:


-- The number of illegal drug users, which had dropped from a high of
25.4 million in 1979 to a quarter century low of 12 million in 1992, has
risen to 20 million in 2005.
-- The number of teen illegal drug users, which had dropped from its 1979
high of 3.3 million to low of 1.1 million in 1992, has more than doubled to
2.6 million in 2005.
-- From 1992 to 2003 the number of Americans abusing controlled
prescription drugs jumped from 7.8 to 15.1 million
.
-- There has been no significant improvement for decades in alcoholism
and alcohol abuse
, with the number of alcohol abusers and addicts holding
steady at about 16 to 20 million.
-- One in four Americans will have an alcohol or drug problem at some
point in their lives.
-- 61 million Americans are hooked on cigarettes.

The consequences of this epidemic are severe:


-- Almost a quarter of a trillion dollars of the nation's yearly health
care bill is attributable to substance abuse and addiction.
-- Alcohol and other drug abuse is involved in most violent and property
crimes, with 80 percent of the nation's adult inmates and of juvenile
arrestees either committing their offenses while high, stealing to buy
drugs, violating alcohol or drug laws, having a history of substance
abuse/addiction, or sharing some mix of these characteristics.

-- 70 percent of abused and neglected children have alcohol and/or drug
abusing parents.
-- 90 percent of homeless have alcohol problems; 60 percent abuse other
drugs.
-- Half of college students binge drink and/or abuse other drugs and
almost a quarter meet medical criteria for alcohol or drug dependence.

"Substance abuse and addiction is a disease, not a moral failing or easily abandoned self indulgence," notes Califano in "HIGH SOCIETY." "We must end the denial and smash the stigma associated with this disease with a cultural revolution of the kind that in the past has reshaped our understanding and conduct concerning the environment, auto safety and global warming." He calls on Americans to recognize that substance abuse and addiction is the nation's number one serial killer and crippler and commit the necessary energy and resources to tackle this epidemic.
MOUNTING THE REVOLUTION

In the Health Care Systems - Noting that the National Institutes of Health spend $13 billion a year on research for cancer, strokes, cardiovascular and respiratory diseases and AIDS, but only one tenth of that amount to study substance abuse and addiction -- the largest single cause and excacerbator of this quintet of killers and cripplers -- "HIGH SOCIETY" calls for creation of a National Institute on Addiction with a budget of at least $3 billion a year to conduct a "Manhattan Project" research initiative to identify the causes and cures of substance abuse and addiction.

Califano urges that the medical profession make courses in substance abuse and addiction a compulsory part of medical school curriculums; physicians be trained to diagnose the disease and refer patients for treatment; states and medical societies establish professional standards for treatment counselors and accreditation systems to certify treatment facilities; and public and private health plans cover substance abuse treatment and pay doctors to talk to patients. "Professionalizing the treatment system is essential to bring it fully into the medical care system which in turn is key to obtaining parity of coverage."

In the Justice Systems - Calling the nation's prison system "as anachronistic as the debtor prisons in Charles Dickens' day," Califano calls for prosecutors, courts and prisons to seize the opportunity to reclaim hundreds of thousands of addicts by using the criminal justice system to offer effective treatment for all who need it and incentives for them to achieve and maintain sobriety. "Successfully treating and training inmates could deliver the greatest reduction in criminal activity in the nation's history," he writes, noting that expert estimates of crimes committed yearly by a drug addict range from 89 to 191.

In the Social Service Systems - Noting that parental substance abuse accounts for $23 billion in the nation's child welfare spending and that most domestic violence involves alcohol or other drugs, Califano proposes a complete overhaul of family court, adoption and foster care systems to deal with alcohol and drug abusing parents and partners. Califano also notes that only by investing in substance abuse and mental health treatment can we rehabilitate the homeless population.

In the Education Systems - Schools -- from elementary through college -- should include age appropriate education about all substance abuse involving tobacco, alcohol and prescription and illegal drugs as they do about other health matters from hygiene to STDs.

For Families, Children and Communities - Califano urges that prevention be laser beamed on children, since a child who gets through age 21 without smoking, abusing alcohol or using illegal drugs is virtually certain never to do so. Prevention efforts should also take account of the scientific research which has found that nicotine, alcohol and other drugs such as marijuana, heroin and cocaine, have similar impacts on the brain through common pathways.

Calling "the power of parenting the most potent, least appreciated, and most underutilized resource available in the struggle to raise children free of drugs and alcohol abuse," he calls for an extensive public health campaign to educate parents and teens, especially about the dangers of alcohol abuse and the increased potency and addictive power of today's marijuana, and for communities to press for sharp restrictions on tobacco and alcohol advertising aimed at children. "At bottom," Califano writes, "prevention is a mom and pop operation."

"HIGH SOCIETY" recommends an end to the "one (male) size fits all" prevention and treatment programs since the reasons why men and women abuse alcohol and other drugs differ, as do the ways in which these drugs affect them.

As secretary of health, education and welfare in 1978 Califano mounted the nation's first antismoking campaign, calling smoking "Public Health Enemy Number One" and "slow motion suicide." He founded CASA in 1992 and has been its fulltime president and chairman since then. "HIGH SOCIETY: How Substance Abuse Ravages America and What to Do About It" is published by PublicAffairs. All proceeds from the sale of this book are being donated to CASA.

CASA is the only national organization that brings together under one roof all the professional disciplines needed to study and combat all types of substance abuse as they affect all aspects of society. CASA has issued 63 reports and white papers, published one book, conducted demonstration projects focused on children, families and schools at 161 sites in 67 cities and counties in 29 states plus Washington, DC and a Native American tribal reservation, and has been evaluating the effectiveness of drug and alcohol treatment, in a variety of programs and drug courts. CASA is the creator of the nationwide initiative Family Day - A Day to Eat Dinner with Your Children™ -- the fourth Monday in September -- the 24th in 2007 -- that promotes parental engagement as a simple and effective way to reduce children's risk of smoking, drinking and using illegal drugs. For more information visit www.casacolumbia.org.

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