Amir King Khan vs Super Zab Judah - 7/23

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#41
I don't think his chin is suspect I think it's been proven several times it's weak. Everyone knows that's his weak point. Tommy Hearns had a weak chin, diego corrales, lots of guys. You can be successful despite a weak chin, just have to be very careful.
 
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#42
If Khan were fighting over here he'd be getting some of that ppv money. No cut man? Seriously? Not even 5%?
I'm just saying what it is. If they had a PPV here Zudah would get a split of that no doubt.

It's boxing, you know how it works. Popular guy gets the bigger slice of the cake. I mean Pacquiao got like $20 million and Clottey $2 million, something like that. Mayweather is going to make somewhere between $25-$35 million and Victor Ortiz will get a couple mill. Just the way it is.
 

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#43
I know it's the way it works and that is the problem. I'm not saying a 50 50 split is in order because it isn't but damn man. They ain't breakin him off a crumb of that ppv money and you know they are gonna have a lot of ppv buys just because he is fighting in the UK and they want to see him dominate an american.

I'm saying his chin is suspect because he's only been knocked out once. I think he can take some shots, but I don't think he can take shots from some of those other guys he thinks he wants to fight. And I agree about Hearns, but he had such a superior skill set that he was able to compensate. I don't think Khan has the skill set/talent of Hearns to be able to do anythign remotely similar to what Hearns did (and I know you aren't saying that either.)
 
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I know it's the way it works and that is the problem. I'm not saying a 50 50 split is in order because it isn't but damn man. They ain't breakin him off a crumb of that ppv money and you know they are gonna have a lot of ppv buys just because he is fighting in the UK and they want to see him dominate an american.
Those British boxing fans are extremely loyal I don't think it has anything to do with Zab being american Khan has a good following like most good British fighters (haye, ricky hatton, etc.).

don't feel too bad for Judah he's getting the most money he's got in a long time, but I hear you.

I wish boxing would at least have some sort of bonus in play, like if Judah were to win he'd get an extra % of the purse or whatever.

Little funny story is Judah challenged Khan to a bet, he wanted to bet Khan $100,000 on the side to the winner. Khan said he wants to bet the entire purse and Judah declined.

I'm saying his chin is suspect because he's only been knocked out once.
Well, prior to getting KO'd he was getting dropped by tomato cans and nearly KTFO a couple times. He looked terrible. Maybe a lot of that was him draining himself to 130/135, I think there is some truth in that (Cotto for example got dropped a lot at 140 but at 147 he was much more sturdy). He got rocked by Maidana pretty bad and nearly KO'd there as well. So he does have some issues there. I don't think you can ever really fix a bad chin. Maybe improve it a bit but not fix it....it will always be a liability for him.

I think he can take some shots, but I don't think he can take shots from some of those other guys he thinks he wants to fight. And I agree about Hearns, but he had such a superior skill set that he was able to compensate. I don't think Khan has the skill set/talent of Hearns to be able to do anythign remotely similar to what Hearns did (and I know you aren't saying that either.)
Right. Khan does have a pretty good height and reach over most all of his opponents like Hearns did, so at 140 he shouldn't have a problem. Going up to 147, which he says he's going to do (his plan apparently is to fight Eric Morales next, then floyd mayweather :) ) his chin isn't going to hold up against a puncher.
 
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#45
Zab brings plenty to the table, none of it that matters in a UK PPV. Khan badly wanted the fight with Bradley and he should rightfully have offered 50/50 to make it happen. Khan/Bradley would establish a clear cut #1 in the division the guy that is far above all the rankings as CHAMPION when rankings come out. He'd be the man to beat and the target of the division. The fight with Judah really doesn't hold the same weight.

Judah could've been told to kick rocks regardless of ranking and Khan could've picked another opponent at 140 and sell the same amount of PPVs as if he was fighting Judah. UK fans don't give a shit about Judah. I agree that it would be silly if Judah didn't at least try to get a portion of the PPV but I understand if he tried, was told fuck no, and rolled with the fight anyway.
 
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Judah all day, he's working with victor conte who's working with a # of fighters including nonito donaire and Andre ward to name a few
 
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#54
Can someone please explain to me how they picture Zab winning this fight?
I'm completely blind right now. I picture Khan just picking Zab apart. I don't even see it being close. This is almost a mismatch.
 
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#56
I guess, but it's not that kind of talk, it's mostly holding Zab in high regards.
You don't have to be sold on Khan to analyze this fight. At Zab's prime he was nothing more than a gatekeeper for the division. Good luck 7 years later taking out one of the best at 140 who is about 2-3 years away from peaking. One of the best trainers, one of the best nutritionists, and a camp packed with top tier sparring partners.
 
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I think Judahs experience is gonna blindside Khan. Noway Khan knocksout Judah and i think thats the only way he beats Judah is by stopping him. Judahs handspeed is no joke and as long as his workrate stays up to par the whole fight it will be easy fight for him, Khan will not outland Judah. Khan tends to fade in them later rounds
 
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#58
From Eastside:

"It appears that the "renaissance" of Zab Super Judah has taken a very interesting turn. It's funny, critics often scoff at individuals with "histories" contrary to their line of thinking. For whatever reason, they're evaluations of the person can and will never change despite evidence to the contrary.

Despite being a boxing virtuoso, Zab had failed to live up to the expectations the boxing world had set for him. Being a 5 time world titleist hasn't been enough either. Whispers of financial problems and lust for the night life dogged him constantly. A few years ago, he began to reassess his life and made some changes. The birth of his youngest son and rededication to his relationship with his CREATOR have rejuvenated him.

Regardless of his recent successes, many still remain skeptical. To those of you remaining skeptics, I offer this. A sure sign that a man has changed, is recognition of past mistakes, and what he does to rectify those things. What has Zab done differently? First, he forms a partnership with Kathy Duva to help promote his future events (which ensures a better financial future). Next, out goes his father as primary trainer, and in walks Pernell Whitaker (change of strategy / techniques etc...). Finally, in walks Victor Conte, certified genius regarding nutritional supplimentation and excercise techniques. Final recognition of his STAMINA issue and doing something about is the final key to future success for this young man. I wish him luck, or in Zab's words "GODSPEED"... Enjoy the read: http://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-le...cts-with-conte
 
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#59
Ya but people don't change overnight. You can't just break someone's fighting habits. At this point in his career all they can do is fine tune it and touch up on his mistakes. Zab will always be Zab, and at this point a lesser Zab than what he was.

Khan is going to dance around him all night.
 
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I think Judahs experience is gonna blindside Khan. Noway Khan knocksout Judah and i think thats the only way he beats Judah is by stopping him. Judahs handspeed is no joke and as long as his workrate stays up to par the whole fight it will be easy fight for him, Khan will not outland Judah. Khan tends to fade in them later rounds
Actually I think totally the opposite - the only way Judah wins is by knockout. Judah doesn't have a high work-rate, especially now with Pernell Whitaker as his trainer. He's a defensive, cautious, counter puncher. Yes fast hands, but he'll have to deal with someone with just as fast if not faster hands in Khan. Khan has speed. He also has a very good jab whom the much shorter judah is going to have a real tough time against.

Khan by points or late stoppage.