18 Year old burns flag and goes to court! Real american HERO or real american FOOL?
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The flag represents something about this country that REAL patriots hate. Should they be living here? OF course. Just because you disagree and want to CHANGE your country for the better doesn't mean you should leave it!!
People should stay, and strive for change. Is burning the flag the ultimate disgrace to our country? Hell no, the ultimate disgrace is neo-cons like bush and his cronies coming through and completely fucking our country over; that's the ultimate disgrace.
The flag represents something about this country that REAL patriots hate. Should they be living here? OF course. Just because you disagree and want to CHANGE your country for the better doesn't mean you should leave it!!
People should stay, and strive for change. Is burning the flag the ultimate disgrace to our country? Hell no, the ultimate disgrace is neo-cons like bush and his cronies coming through and completely fucking our country over; that's the ultimate disgrace.
We have the Bill of Rights in place so that revolution is possible. We have free speech so we can speak out against our government. We have the right to bear arms so that we can defend ourselves should the government ever become too oppressive. The entire point of the Bill of Rights is to ensure that we are free to speak out and act out against our country should it become too corrupt. In the future, it may be necessary to speak out against our government, to overthrow or government, or to burn our flag. That is why we were given those rights.
So, if you love our country, and the government becomes too corrupt, then burning the flag might actually be seen as the ultimate sign of patriotism.
I don't agree with burning the American flag, but I certainly reserve the right to do so given the appropriate circumstances.
So, if you love our country, and the government becomes too corrupt, then burning the flag might actually be seen as the ultimate sign of patriotism.
I don't agree with burning the American flag, but I certainly reserve the right to do so given the appropriate circumstances.
It's actually quite patriotic:
(PUBLIC LAW 94 - 344):
JOINT RESOLUTION
"Joint resolution to codify and emphasize existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America", as amended (36 U.S.C. 171-178), is amended --
SEC. 4 . . .
(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
(PUBLIC LAW 94 - 344):
JOINT RESOLUTION
"Joint resolution to codify and emphasize existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America", as amended (36 U.S.C. 171-178), is amended --
SEC. 4 . . .
(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
I think flag-burning should be illegal. Just so the government has something to throw you America-hating hippies in jail for something.
At the least, it should be punishable by a fine. There is that whole fact that people DID actually die in battle protecting the flag. Remember in the early wars, the flag had to remain flying in battle so soldiers could find their unit basically. So if the flag holder went down, a soldier had to drop his gun and pick up the flag. Lots of men died keeping that flag in the air.
If you want to burn something, draw an American Eagle on a white sheet with the words USA and burn it. Stop being so lazy, put some effort into your distaste.
At the least, it should be punishable by a fine. There is that whole fact that people DID actually die in battle protecting the flag. Remember in the early wars, the flag had to remain flying in battle so soldiers could find their unit basically. So if the flag holder went down, a soldier had to drop his gun and pick up the flag. Lots of men died keeping that flag in the air.
If you want to burn something, draw an American Eagle on a white sheet with the words USA and burn it. Stop being so lazy, put some effort into your distaste.
I could be wrong, but Im sure that flag was in excellent condition and did not warrant a garrison funeral. when the flag starts looking like its seen better days, you dont just dowse it in gasoline and light a match, theres a whole cerimony that goes with the burning. its pointless, & stupid IMHO but that (like a lot of things) is just how its done.
This isnt like the kid said, "you know, that flag is starting to unravel, Ill get dressed up in my military uniform and put that flag to rest."
Hes a punk ass high school drop out that cant handle his liquor, thought itd be funny and didnt think hed get caught.
One of two things will happen I believe (but could always be wrong) they will try to drop the flag burning charge and he'll face the maximum sentance of the other counts, or they will drop those and make an example of him and he'll actually be in worse trouble.
This isnt like the kid said, "you know, that flag is starting to unravel, Ill get dressed up in my military uniform and put that flag to rest."
Hes a punk ass high school drop out that cant handle his liquor, thought itd be funny and didnt think hed get caught.
One of two things will happen I believe (but could always be wrong) they will try to drop the flag burning charge and he'll face the maximum sentance of the other counts, or they will drop those and make an example of him and he'll actually be in worse trouble.
Maybe "ultimate" was a bad word... Last time I checked though someone burning the flag isnt tryin to change much, just get punched out...something they would deserve...theres a lot more creative ways to change things then burning the symbolic pride of our country...and you talk about genocide this and genocide that and how its all Americas fault, but then when America doesnt intervene its also there fault...its only not our fault when everything goes pretty much flawless, and then we dont even get a thank you...so think twice about the fact that we have stability and security and a great way of life and change things without burning something hundreds of thousands of people have died for...there are proper vechicles for changing governments in democracy called voting...the unfortunate thing is most of the people who want a change in government DONT VOTE...real chop.
If people are being mistreated in the name of liberty it sure ain't liberty, now is it? Well maybe for a few pockets of people, the ones who have the freedom to mistreat whom-ever they like. Those people who get the freedom to go to other countries and pay people pennies while they sit back and make billions.
I believe george bush when he says the terrorists hate the western world because of our freedoms, think about it. We have the freedom to go to another country and pay children basically nothing to make us rich. What other nations could do that to us? None. Because they don't have teh freedom to impede on our freedoms.
I believe george bush when he says the terrorists hate the western world because of our freedoms, think about it. We have the freedom to go to another country and pay children basically nothing to make us rich. What other nations could do that to us? None. Because they don't have teh freedom to impede on our freedoms.
