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Yes, Lara will sell more than Khan. Lara will not fight at catchweight and is and even if so is a tall 154. The challenge would be that much greater for Floyd to even connect on his punches as Lara will connect and has legit power with his punches. Lara is looked as the guy Canelo is ducking, right? Imagine what Floyd would say to pump up Laraduring pressers? yeas it would sell more
Well just agree to disagree on this one. Got Em!!

Yet he says it is about fighting the best. So is Floyd a liar and strictly just fighting for the loot or is he fighting the best?



Ok, so Floyd is a liar. That is all you had to say, bro.



Canelo is fighting the guy Lara defeated. Lara is ranked in the division and Floyd is a champ in the division. How is being a ducked fighter, and a ranked fighter, not something to the table marketing wise? You can't say it's about fighting the best but then throw a "but" in there.
Dude why are yall all of a sudden throwing Lara at Floyd. For years people been wanting to see Lara/Canelo and Canelo has been ducking for years. Lara has never really been a fight for Floyd. Now all of a sudden u guys wanna let Canelo off the hook but say Floyd should fight Lara. Makes no sense. Mayweather does wanna fight the best but his PPV's have to do well also. The Guerrero PPV did decent but not what they were looking for which is one of the reasons they made the Canelo fight right away. A Lara fight wouldnt sell a million trust me. A khan fight would sell a million I believe. Its about the best but the whatever the best that also brings sumthin to the table marketing wise. U guys can agree or disagree with me but I said what I had to say on the matter. Got Em!!
 
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Floyd made like a gazillion dollar's against Canelo this fight shouldn't even be about the money. When Oscar was PPV king he'd fight guys like Ike Quartey, Bernard Hopkins guys that didn't necessarily add much to a PPV but they added to his legacy, no what I mean?

He fights Khan it cracks a million buys. He fights Lara Maybe it does 850,000 buys, it's small potatoes to the richest fighter on earth.
 

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Floyd is a prize fighter so it will always be about the money. Lara isnt an option for this particular fight so I dont know why yall keep bringing him up lol. I dont know what else to tell yall but go ahead and keep mscreaming Lara's name. We all know who Lara wants and that dude is and has been ducking him. Got Em!!
 

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I think we can all agree that De La Hoya isn't Floyd as far as facing everyone. He's going to maximize earning potential while minimizing risk. That's it. That's all he is going to do. The higher the the reward, the higher the risk for him at this point and it will never be the other way around, no matter how bad we want it to be. As much as I think he would embarrass Pacquiao, it's still too big of a risk vs. the financial reward for him so it will never happen.
 

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Angel Garcia: Like It or Not, Danny is Boricua



ANGEL GARCIA, Garcia's Father and Trainer

"March 15 is going to be like no other. Herrera has never fought a Puerto Rican and my son Danny is 100 percent Puerto Rican.

"My wife and I are both Puerto Rican, and like it or not, Danny is Boricua. It's always been a dream of his to fight in Puerto Rico, so we're happy to see that coming to pass."
 

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Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao Will Be Sparring to Help Each Other Out



By Shawn Craddick

Our reporter Christian DeGuia was on hand today to ask Freddie Roach will Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto be sparring each other to help with their future bouts. Freddie Roach said YES. It makes sense because Cotto will be facing Sergio Martinez who is a southpaw and has an awkward style. Pacquiao will in some ways simulate that, but he is not as tall as Sergio. On the other hand Cotto will help Pacquiao with his style and strength which will mimic Bradley a little bit. Mostly it will be for Manny to feel a Middleweights power which will help him take Bradley's shots even though Bradley doesn't hit hard enough to gain Pacquiao's respect.

If we could only get some sparring footage, it would be gold. Who do you have getting the better of the two in sparring sessions? Cotto vs Martinez is almost done, they are still ironing out the last little bit of details.
 

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Dude why are yall all of a sudden throwing Lara at Floyd. For years people been wanting to see Lara/Canelo and Canelo has been ducking for years.
People have been wanting to see Lara and Floyd for some time now. Google is your friend, check 2011 and 2012. Yes, Canelo has been ducking him and that can be used to market him, Czar.

"Canelo wasn't afraid of Floyd, but he has ducked Lara twice, now Floyd faces a new challenge" blah blah blah. The point is, anybody and anything can be marketed and sold. You just have to do it right.

Lara has never really been a fight for Floyd. Now all of a sudden u guys wanna let Canelo off the hook but say Floyd should fight Lara.
Again, google is your friend. People have been asking for Floyd and Lara as far back as 2011. Who is letting Canelo off the hook? I openly stated time and time again that Canelo did NOTHING to earn the Floyd fight and I've said in this very thread that he needs to fight Lara because he is ducking him. However, I have also given you legit reasons why Floyd should fight Lara. Lara is ranked in the P4P and he is the #1 rank for one of Floyd's belts so why shouldn't he fight Floyd? I can see Maidana, but who the fuck is Khan? He ain't even ranked!!!!

Makes no sense.
What you're saying? I agree.

Mayweather does wanna fight the best but his PPV's have to do well also. The Guerrero PPV did decent but not what they were looking for which is one of the reasons they made the Canelo fight right away. A Lara fight wouldnt sell a million trust me. A khan fight would sell a million I believe. Its about the best but the whatever the best that also brings sumthin to the table marketing wise. U guys can agree or disagree with me but I said what I had to say on the matter. Got Em!!
What does Khan bring to the table marketing wise, Czar? He has a fanbase, true, but that does not mean MARKETING.

So in other words Czar, you would rather see an unranked fighter, who is 2-2 in his last 4 fights (one of the losses by knockout), with a glass jaw fight Floyd instead of a #1 contender, #2 p4p in the division with a 3-0-1 record in his last 4 fights, with the ability to come back after being knocked down. LOL.
 
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Fat Dan just reported that GGG is fighting Andy Lee in April. That negotiation went pretty damn fast
Yep, thanks to Geale turning him down and 50 cent rejected a GGG fight instead signing a fight for Kirkland to fight an undefeated Polish guy (odd decision). The other possibility was Sergio Mora. Andy Lee will die.

After Martinez easily beats Cotto, he will be forced to fight Golovkin at the end of the year since he has one more fight on his contract with HBO after Cotto and HBO will not pay him to fight anyone besides GGG.

GGG vs Martinez at MSG in November on PPV, book it!
 
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I wouldn't have minded the Mora fight too much. I can't stand him but I think he can be a bit difficult to figure out in the ring and would've given GGG a little bit of trouble with this experience and ability. Plus he's kinda tough too. Might've made for a good fight.

Lee will get absolutely punished. If Chavez Jr. punished him, it's hard to see it going well for Lee, although he's like 6'2 and might hang in there for awhile. Still can't see him lasting very long.

I'm still thinking Martinez comes back rusty and old giving Cotto a really solid shot. They're taking way too long to negotiate this fight though and I've hard sticking points are down to stupid stuff like Cotto wanting to come to the ring last and be announced last which is really homo. I hate when people negotiate that. He's not the champ, suck it up and fight.
 
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Floyd Mayweather Sr. to Referee Zimmerman vs. DMX PPV Fight
by Robert Littal | Posted on Wednesday, February 5th, 2014

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If I had to bet, I don’t think this fight is ever going to happen, but the buzz from it has crossed over to mainstream news.

CBS News is reporting that Floyd Mayweather Sr. is slated to be the referee and the promoter is really trying to hype it up.

Feldman says he’s chosen rap star DMX, whose real name is Earl Simmons to fightGeorge Zimmerman, the man known for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, reports CBS Philadelphia. Simmons is 43 years old, and Zimmerman is 30 years old.

“I’ve gotten over 15,000 emails, I had to end [the submissions to fight Zimmerman] there,” Feldman told a Philadelphia radio show. “Very angry, I had everything from celebrities to [rapper] The Game… I got into it with him on TMZ the other day. Floyd Mayweather Sr. is the referee with this, we’re very excited.”

“It’s DMX. Hip hop star, legend. He called him out on TMZ this week. It’s controversy versus controversy. I know this country wants to see this guy get [George Zimmerman's] [expletive] kicked.”

The fight is scheduled for March 14th, the location is being withheld and will be shown on internet PPV
 
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Super 6: Success or Failure?
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mikkel kessler carl froch arthur abraham andre ward andre dirrell By Jamie Eskdale: The Showtime Super Middleweight Super 6 Boxing Classic may have ended over 2 years ago. However after reviewing the tournament this past week it got me thinking. Was the tournament successful and could it be repeated in different weight classes?

The Super 6 tournament started out with eventual winner Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Carl Froch, Jermaine Taylor, Arthur Abraham and Mikkel Kessler. Though during the tournament Andre Dirrell and Mikkel Kessler both withdrew, Kessler with an eye injury and Dirrell for alleged neurological reasons, though some claimed at the time it was because he was scheduled to fight Ward and didn’t fancy it.

Allan Green and Glen Johnson replaced both fighters, so in essence we actually had a super 8.

The tournament set out to pit the best of the division against each other so at the end we could have an undisputed Super Middleweight champion. Obviously Andre Ward eventually triumphed. While no one would argue that he deserved to win and was a level above the other competitors it must be stated that the tournament wasn’t without some controversy.

Due to Dirrell’s withdrawal Ward only had 2 group stage bouts instead of three.

In place of his 3rd fight he defended the WBC belt he won off Kessler against Sakio Bika, although Ward won, had he lost it would have taken the WBC title out of the tournament, which could have devalued the competition.

Also each fighter was supposed to have a balance of home and away bouts.

Every fighter in the tournament traveled away except Andre Ward. Indeed 3 of his 4 fights were in his home state of California, with his fourth in New Jersey.

Runner up Carl Froch had 1 bout at home and 4 away.

To be honest I don’t think it would have made much of a difference to the overall result had Ward been forced to travel, but in the interest of fairness the bouts should have been more balanced.

The tournament did also seem to drag on a little, lasting 2 years and 2 months and probably should have been a bit shorter to make it more interesting.

The positives to be garnered from the tournament were that we now knew who was the main man at the weight. With boxing politics being what they are, who knows if we would have seen all these matchups.

There were a good blend of styles represented in the tournament and initial 6 were a good pick.

Now comes the problem. Andre Ward has cleaned out the division and while he had been established as the king of the weight, he has also put himself out of contention for big fights.

Obviously being at the top of the pile is a great accolade however one would think if Ward were presented with these facts before the tournament he may have thought twice about taking part.

It seems nobody wants any part of him and he finds himself in an awkward position.

So could the super 6 be repeated in different weight classes.

Well I think now more than ever that with Showtime having Golden Boy fighters exclusively on their network that particularly the junior welterweight and welterweight divisions could produce excellent variations on it.

At junior welter we could have Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse, Lamont Peterson, Ruslan Provodnikov (depending on his contractual situation), Adrien Broner if he chose to compete at the weight, same for Amir Khan. Robert Guerrero would also fall into this category.

At Welterweight we could have Marcos Maidana, Keith Thurman, Kell Brook, Paulie Malignaggi, Shawn Porter, and Broner, Khan or Guerrero could be considered again.

While the winner could get a bout against Floyd Mayweather.

I have deliberately left Top Rank fighters out of the lists. Though the possibilities would be enormous if they were added in.

In conclusion I would have to say it was a success and an innovative move by Showtime. Logistics and injuries at times threatened to derail the whole but on the whole it worked.

What do the readers think?

Read more at Super 6: Success or Failure
 
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...so I have no idea who is left for GGG now.
Call me crazy or whatnot BUT I've been thinking that a prime Kelly Pavlik would've been too much for GGG. I just don't see GGG's movement being the movement that flusters him. Mix in Kp's overhand right and stiff jab it makes for a hard fight for GGG.

Plus James Kirkland would've been ate for lunch by KP.

Damn that liquor!
 
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CZAR

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People have been wanting to see Lara and Floyd for some time now. Google is your friend, check 2011 and 2012. Yes, Canelo has been ducking him and that can be used to market him, Czar.

"Canelo wasn't afraid of Floyd, but he has ducked Lara twice, now Floyd faces a new challenge" blah blah blah. The point is, anybody and anything can be marketed and sold. You just have to do it right.



Again, google is your friend. People have been asking for Floyd and Lara as far back as 2011. Who is letting Canelo off the hook? I openly stated time and time again that Canelo did NOTHING to earn the Floyd fight and I've said in this very thread that he needs to fight Lara because he is ducking him. However, I have also given you legit reasons why Floyd should fight Lara. Lara is ranked in the P4P and he is the #1 rank for one of Floyd's belts so why shouldn't he fight Floyd? I can see Maidana, but who the fuck is Khan? He ain't even ranked!!!!



What you're saying? I agree.



What does Khan bring to the table marketing wise, Czar? He has a fanbase, true, but that does not mean MARKETING.

So in other words Czar, you would rather see an unranked fighter, who is 2-2 in his last 4 fights (one of the losses by knockout), with a glass jaw fight Floyd instead of a #1 contender, #2 p4p in the division with a 3-0-1 record in his last 4 fights, with the ability to come back after being knocked down. LOL.
I wouldnt mind Lara at all but I was just making sure u guys werent letting Canelo off the hook. Canelo wasnt afraid of Floyd because of the amount of money he would get verses fighting Lara. Floyd was high risk high reward while Lara is high risk low reward lol. Got Em!!

Fat Dan just reported that GGG is fighting Andy Lee in April. That negotiation went pretty damn fast
Bwhahahahha what a joke. This dude is fighting yet another scrub lol. Got Em!!
 

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Call me crazy or whatnot BUT I've been thinking that a prime Kelly Pavlik would've been too much for GGG. I just don't see GGG's movement being the movement that flusters him. Mix in Kp's overhand right and stiff jab it makes for a hard fight for GGG.

Plus James Kirkland would've been ate for lunch by KP.

Damn that liquor!
Who knows who would've won but it damn sure would've been a lot of fun to watch. Same with Paul Williams. Hopefully one of those guys actually would've fought GGG and not had a list of excuses.
 

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Arum: "If Mayweather wanted to fight Manny in may, he could have."



By Kevin Davis

Top Rank Promotions President and Founder Bob Arum, took time out his busy schedule of promoting this April 12th 2014 clash between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley again, to answer a few of my questions. Mainly from our fans here at BoxingSocialist.
Karceno: Well you know I always shoot straight so let's get to it quick, the fans want to know why Manny isn't fighting Floyd in May?

Arum: " Well Manny said he would agree to do anything to make the fight happen, and what did Mayweather say...No he has tax problems,...who the hell cares! it's nobodies business anyhow, first it's drug tests, then it's 50/50.. I can't keep up with all that...If they wanted to fight Manny in May they could have made the fight happen...but we are not going to chase a guy that doesn't want to fight...we will worry about the ones that do."

Karceno: Did anyone contact you to make the fight later this year?

Arum: "ehh, Look it was more like a hello how are you, he can downplay the fact..all they want ...when Mayweather was in Africa, they asked him about Pacquiao..not Khan, or whoever the hell he's fighting."

Karceno: I seen where he is now making the fans choose between Maidana or Khan.

Arum: "I thought Maidana was fighting Broner again, didn't he exercise his rematch clause, what's going on there..so now they are going to screw over Broner and say hey kid sorry about you're career but Mayweather needs somebody to fight. Give me a break. Look they know my number, my office door is open if they want a fight they know what to do."

Karceno: Is it true you are working on a Pacquiao vs Marquez 5 for the fall?

Arum: "Absolutely not true, I just spoke with Marquez on the idea of fighting the winner and he said he would be interested in fighting the winner of the bout, he wants to win another world title..so if it's Bradley or Manny, he interested."

Karceno: This fight will answer a ton of questions that each fighter must have in the back of their minds?

Arum: "Of course, you have both guys wanting to make a statement, Manny wants to show the world he's still got it, against the guy he feels took his glory, the first fight...and Bradley wants to show that the first fight wasn't a fluke or a bad decision in his favor...he wants to leave no doubts...which is a making for fireworks."
Karceno: What do you think about Pacquiao bringing Fortune back in place of Alex?

Arum: "Well Manny feels comfortable with Justin, they have a history of working together in the past..I don't get involved with who the fighters hire..it's not my place... You know I don't really like Alex...but it's up to Manny and Freddie who stays and go in their camp."

Karceno: Okay, we got Chavez Jr. vs Brian Vera in another rematch, will Chavez make weight this time?
Arum: "Sure, I think he will, he knows how serious this fight is for him, many people think he lost the first fight..and he knows, he will have to impress and not just get by Vera, who's got to feel confident after his last performance. Should be a great fight."

Karceno: If Chavez is successful are we looking at a PPV between Chavez Jr. vs Carl Froch?

Arum: "We have spoke about moving Chavez to a PPV card if he is successful, but we would have to see, they are a lot of potential big fights out there to make, Froch is out there, Ward and the list goes on and on..but first things first you have to get by Vera."
 

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Floyd Mayweather to Get Ishe Smith a Title Shot against Erislandy Lara???



By Shawn Craddick

Erislandy Lara and Ishe Smith have been going back and forth on Social Media. Somebody threw out the ideal of Ishe facing Lara for his beat and Lara said it would be an easy 12 round beating. Of course Ishe came back and said Back it up. The funniest thing was when Lara responded and said, Papi is coming !!!! LOL.
Now it is up to Floyd Mayweather who is Ishe Smith's promoter to secure the fight. Should be easy to do because Floyd has AL Haymon and Lara has AL Haymon. Let's see if Floyd can pull it off.