Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez - September 14, 2013
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Boxing fans know you will not be able to beat Floyd on the cards. You'll have to K him. He adjusts well. Notice how the Ghost found a remedy for that lead off right with a left to the body? Probably not cause he stopped using it by the 3rd round. Judah caught him and dropped him. Money's glove touched the canvas ref didn't see it. Don't think he won a round after that. Mosley stunned him up and got stalked the rest of the fight. His team picks his opponents intelligently. He's a great fighter no doubt but he isn't stepping into the ring with the best. Fighting style before pay out.
Please enlight us and tell me who are these elite fighter that Mayweather is not fighting. By the way the Ghost didn't find a remedy for shit other then talking shit and getting his ass beat for 12 rounds. I would love to hear who you say are these elite fighters that Mayweather is avoiding?
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Brah I was giving him props. Point is them dudes ain't even in his range. Doubt you even heard of this dude but he is a problem Gennady Golovkin: Highlights (HBO Boxing) - YouTube
So you want 147lb Mayweather to fight a 160lber GGG, the same GGG that hasn't even beat not one elite fighter at 160lb yet, the same GGG that fights on HBO, and the same GGG that made $300,000 his last fight, while Mayweather made $32 million. You doubt I heard of the overhyped GGG. Please tell me one just one elite fighter that Mr. GGG has a win against? So Mayweather has to fight a middleweight which would be his 6th weight division at 36 yrs old to get props? Why don't you just say that Mayweather needs to fight 168lb Ward why you at it. lol You are too funny.
He's willing to drop to Money's weight. Give a fuck if he's bigger that's a huge advantage for Floyd. Asprin diet without the water. lol Act like fighters skill levels depend on what they gross. C'mon man plenty of bums have got that chance. Check his last 5 fights. You asked for an elite fighter. I gave you one. It's better to ask who would step into the ring with 3G then who he's fought. Funny you mentioned Ward. Think he's the only one ready. That aint gonna happen because the future draw of that fight will be greater later. BTW don't even mention age. Canelo could be Money's son. His exact words lol He'll dodge him the same way Alverez has. Like I said plain and simple...He is a problem. How funny is that?
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Do you dudes just google facts or watch fights? Seems like the same dudes who thought Hatton had a snowballs chance in hell to win over Mayweather cause yall saw his record. Fuck outta here. lol I'm a Mayweather fan. If you thought Cotto touched Money's face up... This kid could knock a muthafucka out with a jab.
While i agree its silly for Floyd to fight GGG just leave it at that. GGG is a middleweight Floyd a true Welter, end of story.
But when you go on to say what elite fighter has GGG beat, what elite fighter did Guerrero beat? How much money was he making prior to Floyd? Also GGG made $300,000 in his last fight because he's fighting five times this year.
Additionally GGG has credentials, his amateur career was phenomenonal (300-5) and beat all the top guys. As a pro its not his fault guys have ducked him (Sturm, Ndam, Quillin, Murray, Geale).
But when you go on to say what elite fighter has GGG beat, what elite fighter did Guerrero beat? How much money was he making prior to Floyd? Also GGG made $300,000 in his last fight because he's fighting five times this year.
Additionally GGG has credentials, his amateur career was phenomenonal (300-5) and beat all the top guys. As a pro its not his fault guys have ducked him (Sturm, Ndam, Quillin, Murray, Geale).
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Okay...here is some insight on how I think Canelo Alvarez is going to approach Floyd...he WILL NOT THROW PUNCHES IN BUNCHES...I don't think they are going to risk Canelo's suspect conditioning because that is the ONLY way Floyd Mayweather KO's Canelo is if Alvarez is tired in the latter rounds. They will do what Canelo has always done and that is fight like his idol Floyd Mayweather (no disrespect or sarcasm towards either man). Canelo will pot shot with Floyd round for round figuring he can keep up with Floyds speed wise...Canelo will figure that he can take Mayweather's punches if they are coming 8-10 times pr round. If Canelo tries the same method as other fighters he will leave himself open for even more punishment...and later tire with the risk of getting stopped. Canelo and Mayweather BOTH are going to turn this into a boring chess match and it will be up to whoever takes the risk to pull ahead in the latter stages of the fight. There will be NO knock downs and NO KO's...
Mayweather stated that Canelo is a copy of himself and he wasn't lying...Canelo's game plan is to beat the master at his own game...the student is coming to class expecting to pass the test and beat the best. The problem with this is Canelo's imitation is probably a little below Adrien Broner's imitation of Floyd...being stationary mimicking Floyd is one thing but duplicating the footwork when he starts moving you around and launching at you from that distance with the lead right is what separates Floyd from the shoulder rolling pack (Canelo, Broner, Andre Berto).
Here is a video that support what I'm saying...notice Canelo is not hell bent on throwing every single second...granted I'm not part of his camp to see him everyday but this is what I'm gathering.
Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez Trains For Fight With Floyd Mayweather (PHOTOS) (VIDEO)
Mayweather stated that Canelo is a copy of himself and he wasn't lying...Canelo's game plan is to beat the master at his own game...the student is coming to class expecting to pass the test and beat the best. The problem with this is Canelo's imitation is probably a little below Adrien Broner's imitation of Floyd...being stationary mimicking Floyd is one thing but duplicating the footwork when he starts moving you around and launching at you from that distance with the lead right is what separates Floyd from the shoulder rolling pack (Canelo, Broner, Andre Berto).
Here is a video that support what I'm saying...notice Canelo is not hell bent on throwing every single second...granted I'm not part of his camp to see him everyday but this is what I'm gathering.
Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez Trains For Fight With Floyd Mayweather (PHOTOS) (VIDEO)
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Yep I agree, this going to be a huge let down for fans who are expecting an action packed fight. See Canelo vs Trout and how Canelo threw like 15 punches a round. The biggest excitement could only come if Canelo some how manages to score a knock down, like he did against Trout from a stiff jab. Otherwise it will be a chess match with Mayweather being the chess master and Mayweather wont take too many chances since Canelo is naturally bigger and Floyd isn't stupid. Matthysse vs Garcia should steal the show, as far as action and excitement goes.
I have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You sound like someone who just talk out of your ass. GGG is 160lb if he was so bad ass and everyone at 160lb, then why doesnt he move his overrate ass up 8lb and fight Ward?? Why is GGG trying to fight a guy 13lb liter then him?? Again im sick of hearing about a guy that hasnt done shit in his own division yet. At least Martinez is the lineal at 160lb, GGG needs to do something great to even think about Mayweather, and beating up Euro bums are not going to get u a Mayweather fight. Lol. At beating Macklin and now GGG is a elite fight. Lol.. GGG should be trying to fight Froch or. Ward.
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Maybe GGG should move up if everyone is ducking him at 160lb, but we all know he wont take the risk. He will call out people that already have a fight booked then claim that they was ducking him so he can fight another bum for HBO to hype up. Mayweather and Broner has to move up a take risk, but no one is crying for GGG to move up. Double standard anyone.
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Why are you talking about things you don't know about? Golovkin offered to fight three 168 pound fighters, two were turned down (including 6'5 Ooshuizpen) nd one was rejected by HBO.
WHO has Golovkin called out that already had a fight scheduled? Also GGG is very humble he has never made a claim that anyone ducked him or talks bad about anyone.
But lets go through the list:
Sturm - GGG was mandatory for TWO years and Sturm never fought him. Later revealed Sturm paid the WBA $250,000 not to fight him.
Geale - GGG was mandatory but was stripped his title and instead fought Mundine.
Murray - has no fight, Ricky Hatton, Murray's promoter, turned down the fight stating It's too soon for Murray.
Ndam - was ordered by the wba THREE times to fight GGG and each time he was a no show for the the purse bid and lost his WBA rankings.
Quillin - prior to the Showtime / hbo fight, he rejected an offer from GGG stating he prefers to let the fight "build".
Pirog - was set to fight GGG but pulled out due to back injury (still injured to this day).
Martinez - lou dibella: "who the fuck is Golovkin?"
Chavez moved to 168 and is fighting Vera next.
Anyways, if you read my post i wad AGREEING with you that its silly Floyd should have to fight a MW since Floyd is a true welter. You missed my points entirely.
WHO has Golovkin called out that already had a fight scheduled? Also GGG is very humble he has never made a claim that anyone ducked him or talks bad about anyone.
But lets go through the list:
Sturm - GGG was mandatory for TWO years and Sturm never fought him. Later revealed Sturm paid the WBA $250,000 not to fight him.
Geale - GGG was mandatory but was stripped his title and instead fought Mundine.
Murray - has no fight, Ricky Hatton, Murray's promoter, turned down the fight stating It's too soon for Murray.
Ndam - was ordered by the wba THREE times to fight GGG and each time he was a no show for the the purse bid and lost his WBA rankings.
Quillin - prior to the Showtime / hbo fight, he rejected an offer from GGG stating he prefers to let the fight "build".
Pirog - was set to fight GGG but pulled out due to back injury (still injured to this day).
Martinez - lou dibella: "who the fuck is Golovkin?"
Chavez moved to 168 and is fighting Vera next.
Anyways, if you read my post i wad AGREEING with you that its silly Floyd should have to fight a MW since Floyd is a true welter. You missed my points entirely.
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Shut that shit up. Ever heard of Duran Roy Jones? Them dudes fought outside of their natural weight class to make fights the public wanted to see. TMT didn't want any part of Pac Man when he was on top. He light weight retired then came back because he was going broke. Remember? Around the time Pac Man was fighting those elite fighters you claim Mayweather never dodged. Yet he's claiming to be the best. lol Since your such a fan. Who has he beat that wasn't smaller or out of their prime? Nobody. He has what 4 fights left? So realistically that fight with 3G won't happen. Not that it can't but it wont. He a technician, nothing entertaining about his fights anymore but the shit he talks prior. Might be the best fighter of our era but not in history. His legacy all depends on his undefeated record. Take away that 0 and his achievements are mediocre at best. Think this fight with Alvarez is the biggest risk he's took to date. Oh thats right...He didn't take shit. Shobox got his ass under contract.
BTW GGG has flaws in his defense and he might have problems in the later rounds the way he's K'ing folks. But as far as natural talent goes. He's got a future. I knew Berto wasn't gonna be at that level. Actually called his first defeat. Martinez wont fight him either. His claim to fame is beating Chavez Jr. The worst fighter I've ever seen with a decent record. He's 38 with knee problems. Sounds like his overweight ass has a chance tho.
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Hmmm...Imma take a guess here but I think Oscar and Tito had the best record for taking on the "best competition"...than anyone in the past 20 years probably that were in their primes. Some fights against fighters they both share in common but I give the edge to Tito for fighting Roy Jones and Winky Wright over Oscar's Shane Mosely and Ike Quarte. Floyd Mayweather's resume and Manny Pacquiao's pale in comparison to Tito's/ Oscars match ups. Floyd would have taken an "L" by decision at some point had he went the same rout as them...and Manny would have gotten KO'd...but the thing you are missing with Floyd's accomplishments is his consistency and the manner in which he is winning for this long a time...that in itself is equal to or better than anyone of his generation...Floyd has NEVER had a bad fight...except when he was injured against Castillio...if Floyd took a loss that doesn't wash his legacy...especially if he came back and avenged it. This late in his career to finally lose...it would probably endear him to the public like most fighters that take a L for the first time...the public loves you even more...your haters become your lovers.
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