I personally don't have any kids.
But when I started dating my gf her son was pretty bad and was one referral away from getting kicked out of kindergarden. She was beatin the hell out of him too. I pointed some things out on her approach and the kids a changed man. All we do now is put his ass in the corner and make him explain why he did what he did then we explain why he can't do that and that's the end of that. Communication is key and I rather a kid respect me than fear me and learn why they can and can't do certain things instead of beatin the hell out of them without any sort of explanation.
But when I started dating my gf her son was pretty bad and was one referral away from getting kicked out of kindergarden. She was beatin the hell out of him too. I pointed some things out on her approach and the kids a changed man. All we do now is put his ass in the corner and make him explain why he did what he did then we explain why he can't do that and that's the end of that. Communication is key and I rather a kid respect me than fear me and learn why they can and can't do certain things instead of beatin the hell out of them without any sort of explanation.
I concur, only difference is after a good ass whoopin' I sit them down & explain why they're ass was beatin' & if they do it again, I'm gonna beat that ass again LOL! j/k (Just messin' with ya, Bro.)
Again, this thread is dead in the water as to what is right & what is a wrong way to discipline. Yes, we all agree that there is an extreme point, but at the end of it all, what works for one, may not work for the other. Each kid is different and though we say we treat them all the same and that we're fair, but there are times that doesn't happen. Knowing one's kids weak spot such as taking away their toys etc. may work as well. Not letting them watch T.V, go outside etc. A sort of punishment and having to pay a debt by having to clean for a certain amount of time etc. all those things I've found work.
Although, there also comes a time when I'll have to physically lay the law down and do some spanking. No objects just an open hand & enough to make a statement & get their undivided attention.
I was straight raw with two nephews I raised. I mean no holds barred when it came to whoopin' their ass. Nothing I'm proud of, but I'm not that person anymore, but I will say this. Neither of them are running the streets, used or using drugs or disrespectful to their elders or anyone today.
One is serving in the United States Marine Corps. He has been in combat and is back (Thank God.) he has a place with his girlfriend. And have a baby on the way. The other is working a job and has his house with his girlfriend & their two kids. I think society would hold up both hands and form a cross with their fingers if they saw how I used to lay the law down on them boys as kids, but society can kiss my ass for raising great law abiding working class citizens.
In closing: A legit / correct ass whoopin' will never fail.