What Will It Take For The Bay To Be Back?? (Article)
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Mac Dre along time ago said somethin, basically, saying if your boys garbage, dont tell him he's dope.....dont put him on if he cant rap.........
but then in Mac Dres later years when he was really comin up, he was puttin all kinds of cats on that was garbage.......but they was his boys........
so your first comment, tho i agree, errrrrybody thinks they make dope music........
but then in Mac Dres later years when he was really comin up, he was puttin all kinds of cats on that was garbage.......but they was his boys........
so your first comment, tho i agree, errrrrybody thinks they make dope music........
It's true that there is no magic formula that works for everyone. I also agree that artists should get music to fans the way they want to receive it. But why should they limit themselves? They can do what they've been doing to please their existing fans and also use blogs to gain new fans. It's not one or the other... you can do both.
As far as your last statement, I would suggest they listen to everyone and only use what works for them because everyone, including fans, will say some stupid shit at times and useful shit at other times. Everybody talking like an expert isn't a problem if it gets your mind thinking on what you can do to improve your situation. You just gotta figure out what info to use and what info is BS.
Thanks for your feedback... I included it in the original post on my site.
As far as your last statement, I would suggest they listen to everyone and only use what works for them because everyone, including fans, will say some stupid shit at times and useful shit at other times. Everybody talking like an expert isn't a problem if it gets your mind thinking on what you can do to improve your situation. You just gotta figure out what info to use and what info is BS.
Thanks for your feedback... I included it in the original post on my site.
A lot of these artists seem to be hoping that a label will pick them up and invest money in them.
I agree 100%
It's easy to blame fans, but you're right, fans are reacting to the large amount of weak music that is out there.
I don't know about that... there are still opportunities out there, it's just 10 times harder.
How can we get rid of the machine? Can we do anything to reprogram it to push better music?
Thanks for posting your thoughts. I added your post to the original post on my site.
I agree 100%
It's easy to blame fans, but you're right, fans are reacting to the large amount of weak music that is out there.
I don't know about that... there are still opportunities out there, it's just 10 times harder.
How can we get rid of the machine? Can we do anything to reprogram it to push better music?
Thanks for posting your thoughts. I added your post to the original post on my site.
The reason I say that is cuz independent artist need to maximize their time and money and you cant't do everything. By releasing hundreds of freestyle songs for free and doing "Rare" but sold out shows has worked for Lil B. While releasing retail CD's and no free mixtapes while touring non-stop has worked for J Stalin. The conversation is good and I was not talking about yall with the "expert comment" it was about the "fan" turned" expert". Either you like the music or you don't but too many "fans" feel that with no experience they know the business. If you have not made and lost money in the music industry in the last 30 days it's hard for me to take time out of my busy day to consider your marketing plan for my projects.
START MAKIN QUALITY MUZIC, STOP JUMPIN ON SOMEBODY ELSES SHIP FOR A FREE RIDE. WHEN HYPHY THING CRACCED IT WAS A 100 SONGS THAT WERE THE SAME, 100 DIFFERENT SPIN OFF OF THE SAME DAMN SONG. 90% OF THE RAPPERS IN THE BAY ARE LOOKIN FOR A QUICK DOLLA. IF U GONNA BE IN A RAP CLICK, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN RAP CUZ IF 1 KNOT IS WEAK ON A CHAIN THE CHAIN WILL BREAK. GET PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE SAME VISION AS YOU & ARE WILLIN TO PUT IN THE WORK. ITS TOO MANY PART TIME RAPPERS & HALF ASS MCs IN THE BAY AND ITS SICKNING. BE COMPETEIVE & NOT COMPENSATIVE(MEANING DONT ACT LIKE ANYBODY OWE U SHIT, GO FOR UR'S BUT COME CORRECT)
Why is everybody acting like making good music is the answer? Like we don't have a bunch of hitters doing that and everything else to stay eating in this economy. Most of you with opinions and advice (including myself) has not even had moderate success in this industry. This business suffers because the business itself suffers. Pay attention to those who are successful, because most are here today then gone tomorrow. Longevity belongs to those who have created a business or invested in business's that profit in and outside of music. I wouldn't be surprised to see more music people investing in Apple or similar technology due to experiencing these deficits first hand. Just as cigarette companies own the products you buy to kick the habit. You must be 10x the businessman than you are the talent to have any success in this industry. The club is closing and yall are still waiting to get in.
The number one issue is management, it really does not matter who you are or how good your song is, If you don’t have a good team around you then no company is going to take you serious, they don’t expect you to do everything yourself,
A good manager will be able to guide you and handle all the issues that need to be
Done on a daily basis , booking shows, studio time, radio interviews etc
Your manager is your right hand man, he gives you advice the lable cant or wont give you. Get one or make one
2# Publisher , not to be confused with publicist, if you have a good publisher assuming your music is good , then a record deal is not far behind, publishers
Get your music played and gain more exposure for you as a writer and or artist,producer, he gets your music placed on commercials, movie soundtracks
Video games Etc.
If I was an artist id be attending the bmi/ascap events to introduce myself to these
People, publishing is for life and can generate income for a long time if handled by the right people,
3# Not looking in all the right places, artist need to contact any and all labels and publishers from all genres of music, its not just hip hop that’s slow, there could be
some rock or country lable ready to expand into hip hop, you never know , there are huge labels in the bay area, that have never released a rap album, but maybe because no one ever ask them to do so,
more later
A good manager will be able to guide you and handle all the issues that need to be
Done on a daily basis , booking shows, studio time, radio interviews etc
Your manager is your right hand man, he gives you advice the lable cant or wont give you. Get one or make one
2# Publisher , not to be confused with publicist, if you have a good publisher assuming your music is good , then a record deal is not far behind, publishers
Get your music played and gain more exposure for you as a writer and or artist,producer, he gets your music placed on commercials, movie soundtracks
Video games Etc.
If I was an artist id be attending the bmi/ascap events to introduce myself to these
People, publishing is for life and can generate income for a long time if handled by the right people,
3# Not looking in all the right places, artist need to contact any and all labels and publishers from all genres of music, its not just hip hop that’s slow, there could be
some rock or country lable ready to expand into hip hop, you never know , there are huge labels in the bay area, that have never released a rap album, but maybe because no one ever ask them to do so,
more later
I think a big problem is artist use too many producers now, so they have no signature "sound", albums sound all over the place, you got no formula to sell, a dope rapper needs to find the dopest producer, and make something so special, and classic it cant be ignored by the masses, and then we will have a hit.
Honestly, i think this is the last thing you need to worry about,
If you have a little cash or someone to "vouch" for you top producers will offer you production as a submission track for your album , meaning if you get a deal and there track makes the final mixdown then they get paid for the track
the vouching is a label rep or a&r telling the producer hes looking at you,
all producers want to get production credits
If you have a little cash or someone to "vouch" for you top producers will offer you production as a submission track for your album , meaning if you get a deal and there track makes the final mixdown then they get paid for the track
the vouching is a label rep or a&r telling the producer hes looking at you,
all producers want to get production credits