-=The Official San Francisco Giants Thread=-

[LA Dodgers]

Apparently the Red Sox gm initiated the trade 2 hours before the deadline. Basically the Dodgers were just sitting around and got a call from Theo with a great deal and ran with it.

or there was a short list of prospect that the Pirates were interested in obtaining and LaRoache and Morris were on that list. so Epstein had to get the dodgers in on it to move Manny.

Isnt it nice to have spare prospect to deal. its nice to have a great scouting team. Logan White is probly the most valuable member of Dodger Mamagement

 

[ReKz]

you guys have little talent in the minors. no difference makers. other than a 16 year old you guys signed. that stil needs to prove himself......he can end up anywhere from an A/S type player to a regular joe.

No difference makers?

Position players (other than Villalona):

1B Travis Ishikawa- .292/.372/.557 21HR 86RBI (AAA/AA)
RF Nate Schierholtz- .314/.360/.571 15HR 65RBI (AAA, w/Olympic team right now)
C Pablo Sandoval- .345/.390/.577 18HR 88RBI (AA/A+)
3B Ryan Rohlinger- .285/.362/.439 12HR 61RBI (AA/A+)
INF Matt Downs- .286/.347/.483 18HR 65RBI (A+/AAA)
*2B Nick Noonan- .280/.305/.398 4HR 52RBI (A)

Pitchers:

RHP Billy Sadler- 31 IP 0.87 ERA 41 SO (AAA)
RHP Kelvin Pichardo- 50 IP 2.70 ERA 49 SO 7 SV (AA)
RHP Justin Hedrick- 56 IP 1.45 ERA 61 SO 7 SV (AA)
RHP Joey Martinez- 114.2 IP 2.75 ERA 85 SO 2.08 GO/AO (AA)
RHP Kevin Pucetas- 96.1 IP 2.71 ERA 75 SO (A+)
LHP Jesse English- 110.2 IP 3.09 ERA 109 SO (A+)
*RHP Tim Alderson-121.1 IP 33 BB 107 SO 2.82 ERA 1.15 WHIP (A+)
*LHP Madison Bumgarner-116.1 IP 18 BB 125 SO 1.70 ERA 0.96 WHIP (A)

*First Round pick

Dodgers gave up LaRoche (always injured and hasnt proven he can hit at the MLB level in 150 AB's)

I'm going to say it again, 150 AB's is nowhere near enough to gauge how a player will perform at the MLB level (especially since it was even in one season).

 

[LA Dodgers]

actually i missed tim alderson who should project as a #2 type pitcher. funny thing is alderson has the 2nd highest ERA of all the guys you lsited, yet he is the highest rated pitcher in the minds of many scouts.

and like i said earlier. to give up LaRoache for MANNY, even if its only a 2 month rental is worth it because even if things dont pan out and we dont sign him we will recieve 2 1st Round Draft Picks for him

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

i havent seen him play much, are you trying to say is that Ochoa has HALL OF FAME type defense? but is faster and younger.

or do you mean he is slightly better than Omar at this point in his aging career? if you meant this one than that doesnt say much for Ochoa that he is slightly better than a 45 year old former elite SS that should have retired a couple years ago

well he's got a stronger arm than vizquel ever had in his career, ive watched them closely and you could say its vizquel jr. they look almost the same.. not very big, theyre both from venezuela.. even broke in his glove just like vizquel, guess it was his childhood idol.

but yeah you guys did come up on that manny deal, boston got fucked lol.

 

[Rich]

I just woke up from knockin out, it looks like Cain had another solid ass outing, but instead of getting no run support he actually got enough to win. And Wilson saved the game again, but 1-2-3.

 

[LA Dodgers]

No difference makers?

Position players

1B Travis Ishikawa- .292/.372/.557 21HR 86RBI (AAA/AA)
RF Nate Schierholtz- .314/.360/.571 15HR 65RBI (AAA, w/Olympic team right now)
C Pablo Sandoval- .345/.390/.577 18HR 88RBI (AA/A+)
3B Ryan Rohlinger- .285/.362/.439 12HR 61RBI (AA/A+)
INF Matt Downs- .286/.347/.483 18HR 65RBI (A+/AAA)
*2B Nick Noonan- .280/.305/.398 4HR 52RBI (A)

Terry Tiffee, 2B, .375/.415/.559, 8HR, 62 RBI, AAA
Xavier Paul, OF, .301/.362/.448, 7 HR, 56 RBI, AAA
John Griffin, OF, .310/.386/.527, 14 HR, 67 RBI, AAA
John Lindsey, 1B, .307/.387/.540, 20 HR, 84 RBI, AAA
Ivan DeJesus, SS, .301/.400/.389, 3HR, 46 RBI, AA
Lucas James May, C, .243/.310/.431, 12 HR, 49 RBI AA
Carlos Santana, C, .323/.431/.563 14 HR, 96 RBI HI-A
Thomas Giles, OF, .284/.353/.514, 17 HR, 81 RBI, HI-A
Andrew Lambo, OF, .295/.351/.491, 15 HR, 72 RBI, LO-A
Preston Mattingly, 2B, .224/.263/.337 6 HR, 24 RBI LO-A

No difference makers?
Pitchers:

RHP Billy Sadler- 31 IP 0.87 ERA 41 SO (AAA)
RHP Kelvin Pichardo- 50 IP 2.70 ERA 49 SO 7 SV (AA)
RHP Justin Hedrick- 56 IP 1.45 ERA 61 SO 7 SV (AA)
RHP Joey Martinez- 114.2 IP 2.75 ERA 85 SO 2.08 GO/AO (AA)
RHP Kevin Pucetas- 96.1 IP 2.71 ERA 75 SO (A+)
LHP Jesse English- 110.2 IP 3.09 ERA 109 SO (A+)
RHP Tim Alderson-121.1 IP 33 BB 107 SO 2.82 ERA 1.15 WHIP (A+)
LHP Madison Bumgarner-116.1 IP 18 BB 125 SO 1.70 ERA 0.96 WHIP

numbers dont mean too much in ther minors

Clayton Kershaw, LHP, ERA/4.02, IP/53.2, BB/29, K/43
Scott Elbert, LHP, ERA/2.53, IP/32.0, BB/17, K/29

Do those numbers look like a difference maker? well he is in MLB right now and just turned 20 years old. here are his 07 numbers in MiLB as a 18 year old

KERSHAW '07 (LO-A &AA), ERA/2.95, IP/122, BB/67, K/163
ELBERT, '07 (AA), ERA/3.86, IP/14.0, BB/10, K/24

as you can see i am not just throwing guys out with decent numbers. red font are difference makers. are they always the guys with the best numbers? no. they are the guys age 20 playing AA or 22 at AAA. they are the guys that in 3 years could be difference makers. guys in blue are guys that are good prospects but wont change games on their own.

as always just my opinion

 

[ReKz]

numbers dont mean too much in ther minors

They DO, but you also have to take into consideration age, level of competition, if they are repeating a level, etc.

The players that I noted have proven themselves at every level they've played at...

Carlos Santana, C, .323/.431/.563 14 HR, 96 RBI HI-A

You sent this guy to the Indians in the Casey Blake trade...

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

numbers in the minors do mean alot, because its the difference between you being stuck in the minors and being called up to the big show.

 

[LA Dodgers]

well he's got a stronger arm than vizquel ever had in his career, ive watched them closely and you could say its vizquel jr. they look almost the same.. not very big, theyre both from venezuela.. even broke in his glove just like vizquel, guess it was his childhood idol.

vizquels hands were/are so fuckin fast he doesnt need a strong arm.

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

yup true, but if you have a strong arm or quick hands it all evens out. This guy made a nice play the other night against SD, he took a ground ball in the shallow outfield, ran to 2nd himself.. and threw to first for a double play.. there was no time to underhand it to 2nd even tho burriss was there covering but had his back to first.

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

lol @ ray durham in he middle of this 'scuffle' between prince fielder and manny parra.

 

[PoLLo LoC831]

OCHOA is playin Good, dats my last name but fuck i have dat name ivan

 

[kayvee]

i got my blankies ready for tonights game.

~k.

 

[Ethereal]

To your guys' previous discussion. Giants don't have the best pitching. Maybe the most promising starting rotation, but overall.. no way. If Zito pitched the way we had hoped and Lowry was healthy things might look a little different right now. As it stands we have 2 ACE pitchers in Cain and Lincecum. Sanchez has great potential but slips often; good strikeout pitcher though. Zito is, well, you know. And Lowry is pretty good. Correia is just a filler. Other teams like the Cubs and Dodgers have depth all the way to the end of the game, and of course the hitting to give their pitchers the extra edge.

 

[Rich]

Anyone watch today's early ass game?

 

[VanD]

i did... noon 30 aint that early lol

 

[Rich]

true, 10am games are early. But yeah how did Lincecum pitch today? Did Wilson have drama at the end again?

 

[ReKz]

true, 10am games are early. But yeah how did Lincecum pitch today? Did Wilson have drama at the end again?

Lincecum was a little shaky early on, but he came on stronger towards the end of the game, final line 8IP 2ER 4BB 8K ...Wilson had a 1-2-3 9th...

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

i couldnt watch i was at work.

 

[Rich]

So Bochy didn't pull his ass out early this time??? I wonder what Ralph said on his show today.