Lol Pacquiao was at 135 had one fight at 140 and fought Cotto at WW.
Again, Pac had time to grow and adjust. He had 3 fights after he jumped from super featherweight, which weren't at WW and then his first WW was a CATCH WEIGHT. Pac had time to grow. Tito did not have time to grow.
Tito had three fights at JMW and destroyed the #2 MW prior to Hopkins.
And where was he coming from? Weight classes were he was actually comfortable at. Weight classes where he was competitive and able to fight.
He was a MW champion, period. That makes him a MW.
Does that make him a REAL MW just because he won a belt? Well shit if that's the case Roy Jr is a REAL heavyweight because he won a title at HW. You aren't making any sense. Just because a guy wins one fight in one class doesn't mean he belongs in that class and if that's how you think I can't help you.
He even weighed more than Hopkins. Further did Hopkins use size and brute force to beat Tito? No, he put on one of the greatest displays of boxing in the past 25 years.
Didn't I just say he was blown up? Bro, you aren't reading. So what if he weighed more? The fact is the guy was naturally smaller and ballooned up in weight so he could compete in the tournament. You can tell it wasn't natural or where he should be. Why? Because he got crushed by true middleweights.
Absolutely phenomenonal performance. If you're trying to downplay this victory then you must have some kind of agenda. Upset because Hopkins wants a $10 million dollar payday against Floyd, which is a pathetic reason to talk down on one of the greatest MWs of all time.
Absolutely not. BHOP came from the fuckin gutter and carved his name in history. If he doesn't make it to the HOF then there is no HOF. PERIOD. The man is exceptional and a role model in and out the ring and I'm not trying to take away anything from him. The only thing I'm saying is there are SERIOUS contenders in his weight class that he should fight. So why call out a guy who is that much smaller than you, and even entertain the thought of fighting the guy when your focus should be on getting this network war, which is depriving boxing fans like you and I of the fights we want to see, to cease?
If it's about the money why not fight Ward? Because they're "friends?" Get the fuck out of here.
And yes Hopkins destroyed his career. Tito went into retirement, couldn't handle the loss. Hopkins did that to a number of guys. Undefeated Joe Lipsey for example, a great great amateur. 25-0 number one contender. Hopkins knocked him out and Lipsey retired due to brain injuries suffered from the fight.
I'm not saying BHOP hasn't ended careers, what I'm saying is he shouldn't be calling out guys smaller than him and no matter what you say, Tito was NOT a true MW.
Again, why are you making a fuss that Hopkins fought one or two smaller guys? He also fought bigger guys and guys half his age. Oscar fought smaller guys (gatti for example ). Floyd fought smaller guys (Marquez for example). Oscar and Floyd also fought bigger guys as well. This is boxing everyone fights smaller and bigger guys. So wtf is your agenda bringing up Oscar and Tito? Oscar called out Hopkins, no one turns down Oscar.
Did Floyd or Oscar call any smaller guys out when a fuckin network war was goin on? Nope. My take is BHOP does not have his priorities straight. Who better (I'm talking boxers) to speak up and be an advocate to end this shit than him?
Tito wad a MW title holder, Hopkins had to fight him to unify the belts which was his goal. What, should Hopkins have turned down a $10,000,000 payday anf not unify the belts cus some guy on the internet would criticize him 10+ years lol
WTF are you even talking about in regards to "what did Tito do to deserve a shot a Joppy? " He was the pound 4 pound fighter in the world and the champ at 154. If the #1 fighter from the weight class immediately below moves up while dropping their belt they can have an immediate crack at the title holder.
And this is what needs to stop. You move up in weight, get your clock cleaned, get made retarded or your spirit broken and then its to the soup line. There should be no immediate cracks at a title just because you moved up in weight. Win a fuckin fight or two in the weight class, prove yourself like others who have competed in the division and earn your fuckin shot instead of getting it on a handout and bullshit rule.
This is why Joan Guzman, the WBO champion at 130, was made mandatory to the WBO 135 Champion in Nate Campbell. Same applies for the WBA and WBC. Another example is the 130 pound WBC champion Manny Pacquiao getting an immediate shot at the 135 pound WBC champion in David Diaz. Check the rules, "dumbass".
See above and I already know the rule which is why I previously said, "What did Tito do to earn his spot at MW
aside from move up from two weight classes below it? NOTHING." Read the post, "dumbass."
I'm getting tired of schooling you on shit you don't know. Trinidad was the 154 pound WBA champion. When he dropped the bet and declared a move to 160 he got an immediate crack at the WBA champion William Joppy, just as the examples I provided above.
See above. Bullshit rule. He did
NOTHING to earn the fight but be a champion and move up in weight. You call that doing something? Get the fuck out of here. And how the fuck are you schooling me? You went from BHOP only fighting one small guy to now saying he fought two small guys, to being schooled on the fact that a lot of people Tito fought didn't have MW fights, to this and that?
"Now that Joan Guzman has vacated his WBO 130 pound title and declared a move to 135 pounds, under it's rules the WBO has assured Sycuan that Guzman will in fact become the number one contender at 135 pounds and mandatory challenger to WBO champion Nate Campbell."
Got that dumbass?
Already addressed in a previous post, stooge. He
did nothing to deserve the shot except for move up in weight (while being champ.) You got it dummy?
ETA: I just wanted to add that Hopkins started his career as a Light Heavy and scaled down. This is very important, lol.
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