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Ding ding ding! GGG will take the risk to fight a very skilled fighter in Floyd because of the payday but wont take the risk in another very skilled fighter similar to Floyd because of the pay day. Hmmm.......Got Em!!
Are you comparing Floyd to GGG? To fight Floyd you need some type of a fan base. You dont need a fan base to fight GGG because he is building his own fan base lol. Big difference. Got Em!!
Are you comparing Floyd to GGG? To fight Floyd you need some type of a fan base. You dont need a fan base to fight GGG because he is building his own fan base lol. Big difference. Got Em!!
What you just typed makes no sense. Who wouldn't fight Floyd for the money? And who said he wouldn't take the fight? They told Lara's people to call them and they never did. They said they would have to bring it to HBO because they have an exclusive deal with HBO and if talks got far they certainly would bring it to HBO to make the fight happen. What exactly is your point?
When was the last time Lara headlined a card? When was the last time Lara sold out an Arena? When was the last time Lara headlined a PPV?
When was the last time Lara headlined a card? When was the last time Lara sold out an Arena? When was the last time Lara headlined a PPV?
Dude GGG just had his first PPV and Im sure the numbers werent all that. He is still building his name so he should take any fight he can get. Lara been calling him out so he should fight him simple and plain. GGG aint no Floyd and not even close. Lets make it happen and take the risk with low payoff and prove you are the best than you get the big fights and big paydays. Got Em!!
There isn't much point in fighting him right now.
-Lara has a fight booked for November 25th against Jan Zaveck.
-Golovkin is mandatory to Canelo/Cotto
If there is some time between Golovkin and winner, he'll most certainly go after a significant fight like the upcoming Andy Lee vs Saunders winner, which is for Lee's WBO title and would be another unification, which is his goal. Plus Golovkin was scheduled to fight Andy Lee last year but his dad died and it was cancelled, so there is some history there.
For those reasons alone, not even getting into the Haymon/HBO thing, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to fight a guy who isn't ranked in the division. Plus Golovkin has his own mandatories that he's going to have to deal with eventually, and I reckon if they can't get Andy Lee they'll probably want to get a mandatory out of the way, which is Tureano Johnson, who just won an eliminater on the undercard of Golovkin v Lemieux.
So if there is a fight before Golovkin vs Canelo/Cotto, it will be Andy Lee or Tureano Johnson.
-Lara has a fight booked for November 25th against Jan Zaveck.
-Golovkin is mandatory to Canelo/Cotto
If there is some time between Golovkin and winner, he'll most certainly go after a significant fight like the upcoming Andy Lee vs Saunders winner, which is for Lee's WBO title and would be another unification, which is his goal. Plus Golovkin was scheduled to fight Andy Lee last year but his dad died and it was cancelled, so there is some history there.
For those reasons alone, not even getting into the Haymon/HBO thing, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to fight a guy who isn't ranked in the division. Plus Golovkin has his own mandatories that he's going to have to deal with eventually, and I reckon if they can't get Andy Lee they'll probably want to get a mandatory out of the way, which is Tureano Johnson, who just won an eliminater on the undercard of Golovkin v Lemieux.
So if there is a fight before Golovkin vs Canelo/Cotto, it will be Andy Lee or Tureano Johnson.
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Lara actually headlined against Delvin Rodriguez, which did horrible ratings but I blame his handlers, they aren't doing him any favors with shows like that and his upcoming Zan Zavech fight, which is a really really bad fight for casuals or anyone who wants to see some action (just a bad style clash I think). I think they are better off piggybacking him on some bigger fights as an undercard fight but what do I know.
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Let's see, that was in May or June of this year. It was on Spike TV. It was a forgettable fight but I remember being frustrated with Lara because he's so set in his way of fighting that he didn't even try to put Delvin away despite having him badly out classed, out matched, hurt, tired and confused. I remember talking to naner about it, that he had a good opportunity to create some buzz with a knockout rather than being content with a decision win while the crowd was booing him. Naner maintained it's his way of fighting, he's been this way his whole life it ain't changing, I was arguing that he could still learn to try to press the issue/ go for a KO, especially when you have a limited club fighter in front of you that wasn't doing anything at all. Basically he's intelligent enough to know that taking a few tiny risks in the fight would be beneficial to his career.
And that's why I absolutely HATE the Jan fight. Its the exact same thing except Jan is more durable.
And that's why I absolutely HATE the Jan fight. Its the exact same thing except Jan is more durable.
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So he basically flopped when he was headlining a card that most people probably didn't even know or care about. And I bet the arena wasn't sold out and we don't even need to go into PPV.
Now remind you, all of what I'm saying is from the perspective of someone who says, "this person doesn't deserve a fight because they haven't built up a fan base" which is what czar did when questioned about Floyd not fighting Lara who was mandatory for Floyd.
I'd love to see a Lara and GGG fight after GGG gets the belts. In fact, his first defense, IMHO, should be against Lara as Lara can make the weight (he came in at around 162 against Saul if I'm not mistaken.)
Now remind you, all of what I'm saying is from the perspective of someone who says, "this person doesn't deserve a fight because they haven't built up a fan base" which is what czar did when questioned about Floyd not fighting Lara who was mandatory for Floyd.
I'd love to see a Lara and GGG fight after GGG gets the belts. In fact, his first defense, IMHO, should be against Lara as Lara can make the weight (he came in at around 162 against Saul if I'm not mistaken.)
The best fighter he would have fought so far that is in the same weight class as Floyd, lol. Czar, are you reading the shit you're saying? On one hand you're saying for him to fight Lara because he is the best. He's also a smaller fighter per your words but on the other hand, when it comes to him fighting Floyd, you're talking about Floyd being a smaller fighter and that GGG shouldn't fight him, lol. The hypocrisy is STRONG.
And what part of Lara and his people never got back to him do you not understand? What part of they said they would take it to HBO if they sat down and talked and that HBO would have the final say in the matter? What part of he is trying to unify do you not understand? And when Lara first started calling him out, GGG's camp said the same thing they've always said, which is, "we want to unify the belts first."
So let the man unify the division and stop begging for him to fight the guy Floyd avoided.
And what part of Lara and his people never got back to him do you not understand? What part of they said they would take it to HBO if they sat down and talked and that HBO would have the final say in the matter? What part of he is trying to unify do you not understand? And when Lara first started calling him out, GGG's camp said the same thing they've always said, which is, "we want to unify the belts first."
So let the man unify the division and stop begging for him to fight the guy Floyd avoided.
I dont believe Floyd campaigned at 154 though. He fought Dela Hoya there in 2006. Than never fought there again until he fought Cotto many moons later. Than didnt fight there again until Canelo a few years after that. He never even fought back to back in that weight class. There were just big fights there that he took thats all. Floyd is a tru welterweight. Just cause you have fought in a division a time or two doesnt make you that weight class. In the words of Arnold..............What You Talking About Willis. Got Em!!
Kovalev vs. Pascal II Looms For Montreal's Bell Centre - Boxing News
Pascal VS Kovalev 2? WTF? He's gonna get handled again.
Pascal VS Kovalev 2? WTF? He's gonna get handled again.
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Bernard Hopkins, coming off two losses to Taylor, moved up to fight Tarver without a tune up and defeated him.
Floyd Mayweather takes a two year vacation, comes back to face JMM who was coming off a ko and tko win and puts on a clinic.
Andre Ward, came off a layoff of two years and fought a guy who was coming off two losses. And at a catchweight...
LMAO!
But GGG needs to fight Ward doe! But Ward is P4P doe!!! Got Em doe!!!!!!
Floyd Mayweather takes a two year vacation, comes back to face JMM who was coming off a ko and tko win and puts on a clinic.
Andre Ward, came off a layoff of two years and fought a guy who was coming off two losses. And at a catchweight...
LMAO!
But GGG needs to fight Ward doe! But Ward is P4P doe!!! Got Em doe!!!!!!
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Canelo >>> Lara. Plus it would be for the middleweight crown assuming Canelo beats Cotto. And not too mention a super fight.
I think Lara is a solid fighter, he is skilled but he is no Mayweather like you say or else Lara would be dominating 154 but he hasn't. He's always in these super close fights that he narrowly wins or narrowly loses. He was in a super close fight Vanes, he was in a super close fight with Angulo for crying out loud who dropped Lara twice and Lara is going to be a big step up for Golovkin, who is bigger, stronger, more experienced, more technically sound and all around better than Angulo in every possible aspect? I don't see it bro. I think guys like Martin Murray and Monroe would beat Lara at middleweight because they are actually middleweights. I guess the only thing I see from what you're saying is Lara has a particular STYLE of fighting that Golovkin hasn't seen recently as a pro, but the size/strength difference and CLASS all favors GGG, heavily. If Lara was bigger, naturally, and stronger I think it would be interesting but he's not. I think Lara is talented enough to hang with some top middleweights, but Golovkin isn't one of them.
I think Lara is a solid fighter, he is skilled but he is no Mayweather like you say or else Lara would be dominating 154 but he hasn't. He's always in these super close fights that he narrowly wins or narrowly loses. He was in a super close fight Vanes, he was in a super close fight with Angulo for crying out loud who dropped Lara twice and Lara is going to be a big step up for Golovkin, who is bigger, stronger, more experienced, more technically sound and all around better than Angulo in every possible aspect? I don't see it bro. I think guys like Martin Murray and Monroe would beat Lara at middleweight because they are actually middleweights. I guess the only thing I see from what you're saying is Lara has a particular STYLE of fighting that Golovkin hasn't seen recently as a pro, but the size/strength difference and CLASS all favors GGG, heavily. If Lara was bigger, naturally, and stronger I think it would be interesting but he's not. I think Lara is talented enough to hang with some top middleweights, but Golovkin isn't one of them.
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