Boxing pound 4 pound top 10
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New The Ring Magazine ratings:
1. Pacman
2. Mayweather
3. JM Marquez
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Paul Williams
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
8. Fernando montiel
9. Wlad Klitscko
10. Timothy Bradley
Looks like they dropped shane too. They still have Marquez too high on that list though, but whatever.
1. Pacman
2. Mayweather
3. JM Marquez
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Paul Williams
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
8. Fernando montiel
9. Wlad Klitscko
10. Timothy Bradley
Looks like they dropped shane too. They still have Marquez too high on that list though, but whatever.
What's the reason for dropping Marquez? Marquez dropped a fight far out of his weight class to arguably the best fighter in that weight class. He's still king of a division that he probably doesn't even belong in and he's taking yet another fight against a top ranked contender in the division.
Good to see people Pong some love. Reclaimed flyweight supremacy at 30+ years old in a division he became champion in 9 years ago.
Good to see people Pong some love. Reclaimed flyweight supremacy at 30+ years old in a division he became champion in 9 years ago.
Shane Mosley was a champion and the #1 or #2 ranked Welterweight when Floyd beat him. So yeah, it's a lot of different than Marquez losing a fight and fighting an unranked fighter who lost 2 of his last 3 fights.
Bernard Hopkins was actually ranked top 5 and hasn't lost since, but he fight Enreque and Roy Jones, so he got dropped from the list as well do to poor opposition. That's basically the same scenario as Marquez almost except Marquez actually lost and bernard didn't (granted it was to a much better fighter but still).
I'm not saying marquez shouldn't be on the list, it's opinion based, but on my personal list I took him off for the reasons stated above. His upcoming fight against Katsidis in November though (which could be fight of the year), assuming he wins, will automatically put him back on my list somewhere top 6 depending on his performance.
Also just to note, if Andre Ward beats Dirrell convincingly, I'm putting him at #2 and dropping Floyd down to 3. On the flip side if Dirrell beats Ward he deserves to be top 8, since really, dirrell has never lost as a pro (he was robbed against Froch as far as I'm concerned).
Bernard Hopkins was actually ranked top 5 and hasn't lost since, but he fight Enreque and Roy Jones, so he got dropped from the list as well do to poor opposition. That's basically the same scenario as Marquez almost except Marquez actually lost and bernard didn't (granted it was to a much better fighter but still).
I'm not saying marquez shouldn't be on the list, it's opinion based, but on my personal list I took him off for the reasons stated above. His upcoming fight against Katsidis in November though (which could be fight of the year), assuming he wins, will automatically put him back on my list somewhere top 6 depending on his performance.
Also just to note, if Andre Ward beats Dirrell convincingly, I'm putting him at #2 and dropping Floyd down to 3. On the flip side if Dirrell beats Ward he deserves to be top 8, since really, dirrell has never lost as a pro (he was robbed against Froch as far as I'm concerned).
Why do you say that? This two of the best at SMW going at it.
Mosley looked like shit about Mora, but a few things - the fight was at 154 pounds and Mora is a naturally 160 pound fighter (which is why he didn't even make the 154 pound weight limit he came in over), Mora is awkward as fuck, Mora fought like a bitch and didn't engage.
So I think in those circumstances pretty much any welterweight is going to look bad. Put Miguel Cotto in the same boat and see how good he looks. Probably not great. Even Vernon Forrest looked like shit against Mora.
Mosley looked like shit about Mora, but a few things - the fight was at 154 pounds and Mora is a naturally 160 pound fighter (which is why he didn't even make the 154 pound weight limit he came in over), Mora is awkward as fuck, Mora fought like a bitch and didn't engage.
So I think in those circumstances pretty much any welterweight is going to look bad. Put Miguel Cotto in the same boat and see how good he looks. Probably not great. Even Vernon Forrest looked like shit against Mora.
Hmm, from my point of view it's their styles that make this match so interesting. I guess if you want a non-stop slug fest you'll be disappointed, but this as skilled as it gets. It's going to be interesting to see how Ward deals with Dirrells speed and boxing abilities, and how Dirrell handles Ward's abilities and his willingness to do whatever it takes to win.
Dirrell vs Abraham was an awesome fight to watch and very entertaining. So was Ward vs Kessler and even against Green I thought it was fascinating to see Ward bully Green the way he did. Should be a great fight!
Dirrell vs Abraham was an awesome fight to watch and very entertaining. So was Ward vs Kessler and even against Green I thought it was fascinating to see Ward bully Green the way he did. Should be a great fight!
If Abraham could special order a fighter at the top of the division that's made for his style, it'd be Carl Froch. Unless Froch decides to do something different than he's done in every other fight he's ever had then Abraham's eventually gonna catch with something vicious and even though he has a solid chin I'm not positive that he's able to take such a shot.
Naner12, I'm going to have to agree with you on this one Forch is going to sleep somewhere between 9th-12th round. Ward vs Dirrell is a very hard fight to pick a guy. I will have to go with Dirrell just because he has fought away from home and has had the harder fights, so I think he can handle the pressure better. I can't wait until Nov..