Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history

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Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history
By Dinesh D'Souza
Tue Nov 21, 3:00 AM ET



RANCHO SANTA FE, CALIF. - In recent months, a spate of atheist books have argued that religion represents, as "End of Faith" author Sam Harris puts it, "the most potent source of human conflict, past and present."

Columnist Robert Kuttner gives the familiar litany. "The Crusades slaughtered millions in the name of Jesus. The Inquisition brought the torture and murder of millions more. After Martin Luther, Christians did bloody battle with other Christians for another three centuries."

In his bestseller "The God Delusion," Richard Dawkins contends that most of the world's recent conflicts - in the Middle East, in the Balkans, in Northern Ireland, in Kashmir, and in Sri Lanka - show the vitality of religion's murderous impulse.

The problem with this critique is that it exaggerates the crimes attributed to religion, while ignoring the greater crimes of secular fanaticism. The best example of religious persecution in America is the Salem witch trials. How many people were killed in those trials? Thousands? Hundreds? Actually, fewer than 25. Yet the event still haunts the liberal imagination.

It is strange to witness the passion with which some secular figures rail against the misdeeds of the Crusaders and Inquisitors more than 500 years ago. The number sentenced to death by the Spanish Inquisition appears to be about 10,000. Some historians contend that an additional 100,000 died in jail due to malnutrition or illness.

These figures are tragic, and of course population levels were much lower at the time. But even so, they are minuscule compared with the death tolls produced by the atheist despotisms of the 20th century. In the name of creating their version of a religion-free utopia, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.

Moreover, many of the conflicts that are counted as "religious wars" were not fought over religion. They were mainly fought over rival claims to territory and power. Can the wars between England and France be called religious wars because the English were Protestants and the French were Catholics? Hardly.

The same is true today. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not, at its core, a religious one. It arises out of a dispute over self-determination and land. Hamas and the extreme orthodox parties in Israel may advance theological claims - "God gave us this land" and so forth - but the conflict would remain essentially the same even without these religious motives. Ethnic rivalry, not religion, is the source of the tension in Northern Ireland and the Balkans.

p>Yet today's atheists insist on making religion the culprit. Consider Mr. Harris's analysis of the conflict in Sri Lanka. "While the motivations of the Tamil Tigers are not explicitly religious," he informs us, "they are Hindus who undoubtedly believe many improbable things about the nature of life and death." In other words, while the Tigers see themselves as combatants in a secular political struggle, Harris detects a religious motive because these people happen to be Hindu and surely there must be some underlying religious craziness that explains their fanaticism.

Harris can go on forever in this vein. Seeking to exonerate secularism and atheism from the horrors perpetrated in their name, he argues that Stalinism and Maoism were in reality "little more than a political religion." As for Nazism, "while the hatred of Jews in Germany expressed itself in a predominantly secular way, it was a direct inheritance from medieval Christianity." Indeed, "The holocaust marked the culmination of ... two thousand years of Christian fulminating against the Jews."

One finds the same inanities in Mr. Dawkins's work. Don't be fooled by this rhetorical legerdemain. Dawkins and Harris cannot explain why, if Nazism was directly descended from medieval Christianity, medieval Christianity did not produce a Hitler. How can a self-proclaimed atheist ideology, advanced by Hitler as a repudiation of Christianity, be a "culmination" of 2,000 years of Christianity? Dawkins and Harris are employing a transparent sleight of hand that holds Christianity responsible for the crimes committed in its name, while exonerating secularism and atheism for the greater crimes committed in their name.

Religious fanatics have done things that are impossible to defend, and some of them, mostly in the Muslim world, are still performing horrors in the name of their creed. But if religion sometimes disposes people to self-righteousness and absolutism, it also provides a moral code that condemns the slaughter of innocents. In particular, the moral teachings of Jesus provide no support for - indeed they stand as a stern rebuke to - the historical injustices perpetrated in the name of Christianity.

Atheist hubris
The crimes of atheism have generally been perpetrated through a hubristic ideology that sees man, not God, as the creator of values. Using the latest techniques of science and technology, man seeks to displace God and create a secular utopia here on earth. Of course if some people - the Jews, the landowners, the unfit, or the handicapped - have to be eliminated in order to achieve this utopia, this is a price the atheist tyrants and their apologists have shown themselves quite willing to pay. Thus they confirm the truth of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's dictum, "If God is not, everything is permitted."

Whatever the motives for atheist bloodthirstiness, the indisputable fact is that all the religions of the world put together have in 2,000 years not managed to kill as many people as have been killed in the name of atheism in the past few decades.

It's time to abandon the mindlessly repeated mantra that religious belief has been the greatest source of human conflict and violence. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history.

* Dinesh D'Souza is the Rishwain Fellow at the Hoover Institution. His new book, "The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11," will be published in January.
 
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The best example of religious persecution in America is the Salem witch trials.
thats there best example?? id like to ask what about colombus and the natives? was that not an example of religious persecution in amerika?..

but why only mention in amerika when religion, (world-wide) shows a much larger scale?? the Inquisition? Aztec human sacrafice? etc.
 
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^^^lol for real. I cant think of anyone ever killed in the name of atheism, but there are multiple millions of people who have been killed in the name of a god or religion.
 
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But there have been Atheists who have falsely claimed they believe in God just to appeal to the masses. Hitler and Stalin, George Bush! Bush aint no Christian, foo is an atheist who proclaims he's a Christian.
 
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Hitler said the Extermination of the Jews was good for Christians, and the world. It was for his own agenda and pleasure, was he a Christian, or atheist? If he was a Christian why did he order so many soldiers to burn bibles?

At your second question, C'mon JMACLN
 
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TROLL said:
but why only mention in amerika when religion, (world-wide) shows a much larger scale?? the Inquisition?

Deadpool said:
It is strange to witness the passion with which some secular figures rail against the misdeeds of the Crusaders and Inquisitors more than 500 years ago. The number sentenced to death by the Spanish Inquisition appears to be about 10,000. Some historians contend that an additional 100,000 died in jail due to malnutrition or illness.

:rolleyes:
 
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I understand the Salem which hunt, but the Crusade wasn't for God, just to let you know. It was about what everyone in those times were trying to do, GET POWER AND LAND!
 
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thats more then i have heard about people being killed to spread the message that there is no god
Deadpool said:
In the name of creating their version of a religion-free utopia, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.
:rolleyes:

Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong were atheistic commies. Atheism was part of their core communist beliefs. If they killed for communism they killed for atheism as well.
 
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Atheism is a LACK OF A BELIEF. It is not a belief itself.

Any atrocities committed by any of these men were not in the name of atheism, but in the name of their respective ideologies.

Stalin for example did suppress religion, but his motives for outlawing/suppressing religion were clearly political--he didn't want any ties higher than the state nor did he want any opposition. He did however USE the church in his favor, when in 1941, after Nazi Germany's attack on the Soviet Union, he revived the Russian Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for the war effort. By 1957 about 22,000 Russian Orthodox churches had become active.

Most dictators either use the church to suppress people, or fight the church to limit their power. Stalin did both.

Stalin’s murders were solely political (for example the "Great Purge") which was to rid all political opponents and anyone at all that he had reason to suspect were against his rules of policies, including thousands of the original Bolsheviks, most of which were atheist. He killed for his own political gain, not because of Atheism (and also not because of Communism or Marxism).

The same applies for Mao Zedong.

Hitler was certainly not Atheist. Hitler's war on the Jews was a war on a race. Anti-semitism is rooted in the New Testament and indeed one of Germany's greatest theologian, Martin Luther (1483-1546) was an ardent anti-semite. The German protestant clergy welcomed Hitler's elevation to the Chancelorship in 1933.
 
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^^^any idea put forth requires a believe. you dont lack the idea of a god, so therefore you must either chose to believe it or not. therefore you have to believe there is no god. if it is a lack of believe in god and that is not your purpose,you have to replace that believe with another. than tell me what is your purpose for life? and remember if your not growing your dying.
 
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There are variations of Atheism (strong or hard/soft or weak); weak atheism is the lack or absence of belief in deities, without the additional claim that deities do not exist, which is most common. Strong is the lack or absence of belief in deities, with the claim that deities do not exist. Personally I think it is illogical that any deity can exist, but I simply say there is lack of evidence. (I consider myself somewhere between, if that makes sense).

than tell me what is your purpose for life?
This is not relevant to the topic. there have been countless threads asking this same question, I suggest you make use of the search function.

and remember if your not growing your dying.
WTF?
 
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^^^so your saying until the evidence is presented to you either by evolutionist or creationst you will reamain neutral on the subject? only when presented with concrete info by either side, then you will make a choice between believing in god or not? and until that time your going to deny any existence of any god and go by what YOU feel is right. even though what you think is right is subject to corruption. and if you say that what i believe in is also subject to curroption then we must both examine our purpose for such believes. so i guess my question is MORE relevant now than ever, what do you offer me if you believe in nothing? NOTHING
 
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^^^so your saying until the evidence is presented to you either by evolutionist or creationst you will reamain neutral on the subject?
What do evolutionists and creationists have to do with the belief in a god?

only when presented with concrete info by either side, then you will make a choice between believing in god or not?
It is irrational to believe in things without supporting evidence. If I told you a purple flying midget flew out of my ass this morning, would you simply take my word for it or would you require some sort of evidence to back my claim?

and until that time your going to deny any existence of any god and go by what YOU feel is right.
No, I am not denying anything, I am simply saying that there is no evidence to support the claim of god, therefor I lack that belief. Probably for the same reason you lack the belief in Zeus or Appolo.

so i guess my question is MORE relevant now than ever, what do you offer me if you believe in nothing? NOTHING
WTF are you offering in terms of the topic at hand? Are you contributing to this thread or simply asking 2-0-Sixx questions regarding Atheism? If so, I suggest you either create a new thread, PM me, search for older threads or contact me by other means.