Nuttkase- you seem like cool people from your previous posts, but you need to brush up on the history homie.... Kool Herc didn't even start DJing till 1973 (and keep it real, cats didn't even know who Kool Herc was untill they started reading about history) "Rappers Delight" dropped in 1980... so unless you were a B-Boy living in the Bronx, that's when hip hop started... so yes, Tone Loc and Sir-Mix-A-Lot are old school, cuz rap wasn't even 10 years old... if you're pushing 40 and you got teenagers rapping, you're old...