World War 3
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HERESY said:
post the numbers.
I would consider these proxy battles as none were fought by the major powerhouses like russia and america (only funded.)
Is this in reply to my sarcasm?
I would consider these proxy battles as none were fought by the major powerhouses like russia and america (only funded.)
Is this in reply to my sarcasm?
I would agree
Body count isn’t really an effective tool in determining the significance, destruction, or implications of a war. Do you count famine due to war? What about ethnic cleansing that occurred during a war? Only combat deaths to soldiers? How do you reconcile the changes in technology when making these type of comparisons? For example U.S. battle deaths of soldiers in Vietnam were greater than those seen in Iraq, but medical advances save the lives of many a soldier in Iraq that would have died from wounds sustained in Vietnam.. How do you prove a number’s accuracy for such statistics? Seems silly to make that the basis of your argument.
I was able to come up with about 16,457,000 on the conflicts I listed
Sources:
Gallup study, Washington Post, PBS News Hour, T. Lomperis, From People's War to People's Rule, Clodfelter, Michael, Vietnam in Military Statistics, Paul Sigmund, The Overthrow of Allende and the Politics of Chile: 1964-1976, Agence France Presse, Cambridge History of Latin America, World Almanac, New York Times, LA Times, Imperial Reckoning by Caroline Elkins, Polish Press Agency, Arizona Republic, Chicago Tribune, Peru's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, US News & World Rpt, Britannica, Michael Clodfelter, Vietnam in Military Statistics, Dictionary of 20C World History
I was able to come up with about 16,457,000 on the conflicts I listed
Sources:
Gallup study, Washington Post, PBS News Hour, T. Lomperis, From People's War to People's Rule, Clodfelter, Michael, Vietnam in Military Statistics, Paul Sigmund, The Overthrow of Allende and the Politics of Chile: 1964-1976, Agence France Presse, Cambridge History of Latin America, World Almanac, New York Times, LA Times, Imperial Reckoning by Caroline Elkins, Polish Press Agency, Arizona Republic, Chicago Tribune, Peru's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, US News & World Rpt, Britannica, Michael Clodfelter, Vietnam in Military Statistics, Dictionary of 20C World History
Ok so basically you're saying you can't post the numbers showing that cold war casualties were greater than WWI and WWII, and that we should gorge ourselves on your philosophical rehtoric...
You cite sources, but you don't provide any DIRECT LINKS to teh stats. For all we know the number could be 666 deaths related to the cold war, so how are we to believe you? If the number is over 16 million, post something showing that to be the number.
And you are wrong in saying the cold war deaths exceed the deaths caused by WWII (don't have the stats for WWI.)
http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm
http://www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/world-war-ii
You cite sources, but you don't provide any DIRECT LINKS to teh stats. For all we know the number could be 666 deaths related to the cold war, so how are we to believe you? If the number is over 16 million, post something showing that to be the number.
And you are wrong in saying the cold war deaths exceed the deaths caused by WWII (don't have the stats for WWI.)
http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm
http://www.hitler.org/ww2-deaths.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/world-war-ii
Pointing out the FACT that you're a faggot who I mistreat and verbally abuse everytime we are in the same thread is a significant contribution not only to the GOM, but to our society as a whole. I know you don't like the fact that I butcher your posts and openly show how foolsih you are, but there is no need to stalk me and extract your "revenge" here. With that being said, please contribute to the topic. What are your views on WWIII ?
Hiss Hiss.
Your opinion is not consensus, or truth, or doctrine, or "the way" to anyone but yourself, and if you feel the need to attack me on an internet message board that's fine with me. There is no need to take revenge on you. You are damn near 30 and the highlight of your life was appearing on the Jenny Jones Show. My revenge is I present an alternate point of view which drives you nutts because it is different than what you preach, and that you spend significant portions of your life calling yourself the Son of God on a gangsta rap message board.
I need write no more because as you typically react when your card is pulled, you don't defend your opinion and tried to change the subject. You stated that:
I stated that was an opinion, and I never heard back from you. You were corrected.
Good bye again Heresy, I am going back to the world I have a stake in to enjoy myself. Stay up. No need to respond with all that "you don't even know me I've done much more in life than wear a funny hat on Jenny Jones" because its just not true and I wont be responding to this thread again.
Your opinion is not consensus, or truth, or doctrine, or "the way" to anyone but yourself, and if you feel the need to attack me on an internet message board that's fine with me. There is no need to take revenge on you. You are damn near 30 and the highlight of your life was appearing on the Jenny Jones Show. My revenge is I present an alternate point of view which drives you nutts because it is different than what you preach, and that you spend significant portions of your life calling yourself the Son of God on a gangsta rap message board.
I need write no more because as you typically react when your card is pulled, you don't defend your opinion and tried to change the subject. You stated that:
I stated that was an opinion, and I never heard back from you. You were corrected.
Good bye again Heresy, I am going back to the world I have a stake in to enjoy myself. Stay up. No need to respond with all that "you don't even know me I've done much more in life than wear a funny hat on Jenny Jones" because its just not true and I wont be responding to this thread again.
Look how this fool skates around, violates the rules of the site and doesn't contribute. You speak as if I goosed your mammy and sent your sister, but it's all good.
Again, the general consensus HERE is that the cold war was NOT a war. We've already discussed the topic in the past. Outside of this website, the genral consensus is that the cold war was NOT a war, but several proxy wars and battles. Why is it that not ONE PERSON here is agreeing with CB, but you have several people agreeing with me? Now as far as "the way" is concerned it GRANTS me the right to beat the shit out of you. Go pick up a Bible and turn to Proverbs 18:6. :dead:
No see, I am damn near 30, and the highlight of my life hasn't even happened yet. It could be finishing up this book, it could be having your father and daughter perform incestuous acts for the world to see. It could be me expanding my lab and pumping another $50,000 into it, or it could be finishing up my criminal justice degree, and going into law school or going the criminology route. Now, what accomplishments have you done in your life bud? Me appearing on the talk show opened up doors for me to ENGINEER for more clients and for me to slang instrumentals for companies and jingles, so yeah the money I made from that Jenny stint earned me a low 5 fig dollar amount.
Son, go back and read EVERY post where you and I post, and you'll see that I utterly destroy you and send you packing and replying with bullshit like, "I'm out of this thread", and "I'm not replying anymore", so you speak as a fool when you say "my revenge". You can present a different view, you are entitled to it and I encourage it, but clearly you are upset and steaming over the last verbal ass kicking I gave you, so now you want to bring it to another thread. If you want to present an alternate view, why don't you REMAIN ON TOPIC and answer the questions? You haven't said shit about the cold war or WWIII, so how have you presented an alternate view? :dead:
But your name is a CHEAP LIQUOR that can be purchased for $1.78 a gallon, so who are you to speak? And there was a REASON for me having "The Son of God" in my title. If you look around, you'll see that I am often asked about teh things I place in my profile or sig (search this form for ALICE N CHAINS.)
Now, all of that aside, I get PAID from this board. I meet CLIENTS and POTENTIAL CLIENTS here. Do you? What the FUCK do YOU do here? At the end of the day this site generates CASH for YOUR god HERESY. See, you come to this site because you aren't accepted offline, and need to be around people. I come here to network (make money), say my piece and run over fools like you.
Not true.
Do you know what the fuck a consensus is? LMAO! Now, how can you point out that my opinion is not the one held by the majorty here when we've already discussed the topic several times now, and when the majority of researchers and historians don't list the cold war as WWIII? Maybe if you used the search engine you would know.
con·sen·sus
–noun, plural -sus·es. 1. majority of opinion: The consensus of the group was that they should meet twice a month.
2. general agreement or concord; harmony.
Sure bud. Again, you followed me here because I ran over your toes in another thread. Kick rocks.
I'm HERESY -- of course I will.
First of all, I respond with what I want. JJ and this site = MORE MONEY FOR :H:
:H: and MADDOG = Maddog being destroyed over and over. Now do the math bitch.
Again, the general consensus HERE is that the cold war was NOT a war. We've already discussed the topic in the past. Outside of this website, the genral consensus is that the cold war was NOT a war, but several proxy wars and battles. Why is it that not ONE PERSON here is agreeing with CB, but you have several people agreeing with me? Now as far as "the way" is concerned it GRANTS me the right to beat the shit out of you. Go pick up a Bible and turn to Proverbs 18:6. :dead:
No see, I am damn near 30, and the highlight of my life hasn't even happened yet. It could be finishing up this book, it could be having your father and daughter perform incestuous acts for the world to see. It could be me expanding my lab and pumping another $50,000 into it, or it could be finishing up my criminal justice degree, and going into law school or going the criminology route. Now, what accomplishments have you done in your life bud? Me appearing on the talk show opened up doors for me to ENGINEER for more clients and for me to slang instrumentals for companies and jingles, so yeah the money I made from that Jenny stint earned me a low 5 fig dollar amount.
Son, go back and read EVERY post where you and I post, and you'll see that I utterly destroy you and send you packing and replying with bullshit like, "I'm out of this thread", and "I'm not replying anymore", so you speak as a fool when you say "my revenge". You can present a different view, you are entitled to it and I encourage it, but clearly you are upset and steaming over the last verbal ass kicking I gave you, so now you want to bring it to another thread. If you want to present an alternate view, why don't you REMAIN ON TOPIC and answer the questions? You haven't said shit about the cold war or WWIII, so how have you presented an alternate view? :dead:
But your name is a CHEAP LIQUOR that can be purchased for $1.78 a gallon, so who are you to speak? And there was a REASON for me having "The Son of God" in my title. If you look around, you'll see that I am often asked about teh things I place in my profile or sig (search this form for ALICE N CHAINS.)
Now, all of that aside, I get PAID from this board. I meet CLIENTS and POTENTIAL CLIENTS here. Do you? What the FUCK do YOU do here? At the end of the day this site generates CASH for YOUR god HERESY. See, you come to this site because you aren't accepted offline, and need to be around people. I come here to network (make money), say my piece and run over fools like you.
Not true.
Do you know what the fuck a consensus is? LMAO! Now, how can you point out that my opinion is not the one held by the majorty here when we've already discussed the topic several times now, and when the majority of researchers and historians don't list the cold war as WWIII? Maybe if you used the search engine you would know.
con·sen·sus
–noun, plural -sus·es. 1. majority of opinion: The consensus of the group was that they should meet twice a month.
2. general agreement or concord; harmony.
Sure bud. Again, you followed me here because I ran over your toes in another thread. Kick rocks.
I'm HERESY -- of course I will.
First of all, I respond with what I want. JJ and this site = MORE MONEY FOR :H:
:H: and MADDOG = Maddog being destroyed over and over. Now do the math bitch.
To reitierate myself from the previous thread on this topic... it's not entirely innaccurate to call the Cold War WW 3, and the 'War on Terror' WWIV.
At the time, WW1 was actually called some of the following 'The Great War', the war to end all wars', 'The First War', 'War of the Nations' ect. ect. Not sure who specifically coined the terms, but historians named it WWI after the fact....
It will take a major media source (Fox News for example) to start a campaign to call the Cold War WW3 and War on Terror WWIV. And if the neo-cons from 'the Project of the New American Century' have anything to do with it, this labeling can be (or has become) their own self fullfilling prophecy so to speak... (just like Fox announced Bush as pres. prematurely).
With that being said, it's estimated that there could be up to 100m casualties from WWI & WWII, I don't think the cold war and war on terror have passed that benchmark, but I could be mistaken....
At the time, WW1 was actually called some of the following 'The Great War', the war to end all wars', 'The First War', 'War of the Nations' ect. ect. Not sure who specifically coined the terms, but historians named it WWI after the fact....
It will take a major media source (Fox News for example) to start a campaign to call the Cold War WW3 and War on Terror WWIV. And if the neo-cons from 'the Project of the New American Century' have anything to do with it, this labeling can be (or has become) their own self fullfilling prophecy so to speak... (just like Fox announced Bush as pres. prematurely).
With that being said, it's estimated that there could be up to 100m casualties from WWI & WWII, I don't think the cold war and war on terror have passed that benchmark, but I could be mistaken....
