why bay rap is dead

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Nov 14, 2002
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i wouldnt call dead cause its alive and well. but the thing is 90% of them sound the same. the bay is missing the creative side of rap. seems like rappers are too cool to step out that typical "whats hot right now" zone and be there own person.too much fast food and not enough home cooked meals.
 
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i guarentee you people have passed on Young Gully just because of the "Young". i aint heard enough of dude to have an opinion about his rappin skills and his songs. but in general, you should not want to have a common stage name. its especially wack if a dope ass rapper got a common ass name. like it or not, your stage name has an effect on your product. it can stand out it, it can not stand out. it can be forgettable, it can be unforgettable. it can have too much in common with too much. and thats what you dont want. you can say "well listen to the music before you judge his name", but you aint gonna be around telling every body at Rasputin that browses through the Y's. stage names in the performing arts have always been a sit down and think type of consideration. more so in music. hip hop. punk. various sub-rock groups. old school porn names. the list goes on. Mr. Doctor, Erk The Jerk, Great Scott, Rappin Ron, Richie Rich, Messy Marv, X-Raided. those are good solid stage names from nor cal artists. not that all of them are recognized artists by hip hop fans, especialy from a national vantage point. but if you actually want to become recognized and memorable, one of the easiest ways when reachin for the mental rolodex is indeed the stage name. its not a stitched rule, just an iron on patch. but its somethin to think about if you want to be a big rapper when you grow up. if you think your skills stand out, make your name name stand out. it will only help you from consumer stand point. and thats the main stand point you want helping you.
lol the only thang i will speak on is my own behalf and my name ACTUALLY doesn't and hasn't held me back...im getn most of the moves i need to be getting i jus would rather show it overtime instead of talk about it...check out that david album...much love either way but thas far from accurate
 
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lol the only thang i will speak on is my own behalf and my name ACTUALLY doesn't and hasn't held me back...im getn most of the moves i need to be getting i jus would rather show it overtime instead of talk about it...check out that david album...much love either way but thas far from accurate
dont take that as a shot player. i was speakin in general. i did just hear David, Up, and Lady of My Dreams, then watched the Cry and Lose It video. and i liked those. Lady/Dreams went. but reality player, i passed you up before that '93 Til Infinity beat. 50% cus your name and 50% cus your from the bay, hence the thread title. not sayin that im holdin you back, im sayin theres hella people like me and worse, critical when takin time to listen to a newer artist. if your a good artist, the hardest part is gettin someone new to listen to your music.

i can say your records, from the ones i heard, hold up with the few other quality young acts in the bay. i'll give you dap, you went out the box with the Mormon Temple and autotune. i wouldnt expect either of those from an up and comer in the bay. but i wouldnt expect quality either so word up.
 
Aug 7, 2002
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HAHAHAHAHAHA AFTER READING ALL THOSE I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.......THE BAY WILL NEVER COME BACK PERIOD!!! THE REASON WHY..........................THEY CAN'T MAKE NO MORE ''GOOD SOUNDS''...............NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT A LYRIC NO MORE IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING GOOD MUSIC AND MAKING GOOD SOUNDS...........BUT THE BAY DOESN'T HAVE NO MORE GOOD SOUNDS.........THERES ABOUT TO BE A NEW TYPE OF SOUND AND IT'S GOING TO BE NIGERIAN SOUND LATER..........ONLY ONES THAT STILL KEEP MAKIN GOOD MUSIC IS......KILLA TAY, LAROO, SAN QUINN, E-40, MESSY MARV THATS BOUT IT SHIT.........MY GUARDIAN ANGEL ALREADY GAVE THE GOOD SOUNDS IN THE PRODUCERS MIND SO THEY CAN MAKE'M.........THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT............................I AM BLACKULA THE NIGERIAN NIGGA KINGDOM MASTA SENSEI........-FLYS OUT TO SPACE AGE 5 BILLION-
 
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OH YEA, FROM THE NEW BAY....UR NEVER GONNA FIND GOOD SOUNDS FROM DEEP DEEP UNDERGROUND SHIT.......-TALKIN IN A NIGERIAN BLACKULA VOICE- REMEMBA...THERES GOING TO BE CANNIBALISM.....THATS WHEN NIGERIAN MUSIC STARTS........................HEHEHEHEHEEHE
 

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Jun 30, 2005
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Over-saturated period. Like somebody mentioned earlier, since there's so many artists, the good ones get passed up after going through several bad ones. People need to support the solid artists and weed out the weak.

The Bay had it's look into the mainstream when the Hyphy movement first came out. I think if you analyze that, you'd realize why it amounted to nothing. There were some artists/groups gettin' looks into some major deals and even signed if I recall, but nothing has seen the light of day.

Most artists want to get on that mainstream level and get that mainstream $$.
The problem with Hyphy was that while it was a new sound, it was too shallow to last long, i.e. its very nature doomed it to being a short-lived phenomenon. This has been true for most new styles invented in the last decade and the reason is that they have all been defined by a new type of computer-generated beats, typically something simple that gets creatively exhausted quite quickly. Who even remembers snap music at this point, for example?

The mid-90s g-funk and mobb sounds on the other hand were on the other hand rooted in real musicianship which is why they lasted for the better part of a decade and never completely died out - people are still making dope g-funk music that does not sound like something you've heard 1000 times before even if a lot of this is happening outside of the US.

Hyphy was also very limited in terms of subject matter (which directly followed from the nature of the beats) so in the end it was all tracks for the club and the car about going dumb, thizzing, and ghost riding the whip. That's not a recipe for longevitiy or widespread appeal. Again, to contrast with the previous period in which the Bay was hot, g-funk and mobb music beats allowed you to rap about anything you wanted - crime and gang stories, drugs, pimping, partying, bitches, social commentary, politics, general life stuff, anything; and people did talk rap about all of those things which made for some timeless music that can be listened to decades later. While 20 years from now the whole pill-centered culture will have been largely forgotten and the music will be completely foreign and often incomprehensible to people.