why bay rap is dead

[Gemini]

^^^Young, lil, baby, tiny, big whoever started from the streets its how the streets identify their offspring and proteges. bet if you old enough you listen to Young Mc.

and you had to bust a move was tite bacc in the day lol. so saying that was dumb, bias, and hypocritical and clearly not what this thread is about

and you have been on this board long enough to not have understand that

LOL! Your right, but in my dark, gritty, dry sense of humor I was joking (sorta.)

It just reads kind of stupid when you read a track list & it reads like this, "Gun Out Tha Holster featuring Young _____ & Young ______." Granted we had Young MC, MC Ren etc. But you don't see rappers today still putting MC in front of their name like back in the day.

Respected that the streets identify themselves with names like Young etc, but be original. It's seriously looking stupid & saturating the rap game IMHO. It's 2012, time to get out of 90's mode and Change with the times.

 

[Omnificent]

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[Unknown Poet]

the problem is swag rap... dumbed down lyrics.. and annoying voices..
but that goes for most new mainstream music.
the underground.. the REAL art.. is still good...
new rap sucks.. cause ANYONE can do it... takes no skill...
but try to rap like Tech N9ne... hardly anyone can do it like that..
New rap music can't bring real art or emotion... these days..
cause it's so slow and wack.. .. like someone said. .fools are lazy..
there is not passion or emotion in the new rappers music.. so i won't buy..
unless the music has real power in it..

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[ALKOHOL]

Since everybody is a so called artist out here there is alot of hate
Someone with a new style a different swag that can honestly compete on a national industry level gets hated on. Never given a fair chance to grow. Too Much envy. And too many rappers. No real machine money. Too many bay artist blew their major deals. No necessarily all their fault but it is what it is. This dude laptop is and will be the dude everybody been waiting on of given a fair listen
Mark my words. This producer artist named LAPTOP is the one
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[bg taz loc]

LOL! Your right, but in my dark, gritty, dry sense of humor I was joking (sorta.)

It just reads kind of stupid when you read a track list & it reads like this, "Gun Out Tha Holster featuring Young _____ & Young ______." Granted we had Young MC, MC Ren etc. But you don't see rappers today still putting MC in front of their name like back in the day.

Respected that the streets identify themselves with names like Young etc, but be original. It's seriously looking stupid & saturating the rap game IMHO. It's 2012, time to get out of 90's mode and Change with the times.

i understand it was a litter sarcastic and yet was what you were really saying at the same time but if you understand history this is not only a 90's thing every decade in this you will find this lil, big, young title slang amost the generations its is an american thing that really the white people made up this is fact

until america grows up this wont change no matter if you grew up and tired of the way it use to be. some youngster is gonna replace you in thought and youth and carry on the american way

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

Sir, It is "dead" because all of these generic rappers who copy each other and copy whatever sound or trend is hot have paved a lane for wack generic artists like Lil B, Kreayshawn, V-Nasty etc. to be at the forefront of bay area rap music. It also doesn't help that most of the respectable rappers who were putting out quality music fizzled out over the past 5 years.

And I have to comment on the "lil, young" name thing, sir. Being in your late 20's mid 30's and beyond and calling yourself "Lil (enter generic name here) or Young (enter generic name here) is a bit ridiculous. It's like these ignorant negros don't want to grow up or something. They are all stuck in heir second and third childhoods, that is all, sir.

 

[Gemini]

i understand it was a litter sarcastic and yet was what you were really saying at the same time but if you understand history this is not only a 90's thing every decade in this you will find this lil, big, young title slang amost the generations its is an american thing that really the white people made up this is fact

until america grows up this wont change no matter if you grew up and tired of the way it use to be. some youngster is gonna replace you in thought and youth and carry on the american way

True, true I can agree. I'm just sayin' it's saturating the rap game & it's repetitive. Young, Big, Small, Lil, Tiny whatever the heck they call that individual in the street is fine by me. BUT! If that individual decides to rap, please pick a different rap name that doesn't sound like everybody else in the rap game.

 

[Foul Mouth]

You're missing out... Young Gully's the best rapper out of Oakland right now.

i guarentee you people have passed on Young Gully just because of the "Young". i aint heard enough of dude to have an opinion about his rappin skills and his songs. but in general, you should not want to have a common stage name. its especially wack if a dope ass rapper got a common ass name. like it or not, your stage name has an effect on your product. it can stand out it, it can not stand out. it can be forgettable, it can be unforgettable. it can have too much in common with too much. and thats what you dont want. you can say "well listen to the music before you judge his name", but you aint gonna be around telling every body at Rasputin that browses through the Y's. stage names in the performing arts have always been a sit down and think type of consideration. more so in music. hip hop. punk. various sub-rock groups. old school porn names. the list goes on. Mr. Doctor, Erk The Jerk, Great Scott, Rappin Ron, Richie Rich, Messy Marv, X-Raided. those are good solid stage names from nor cal artists. not that all of them are recognized artists by hip hop fans, especialy from a national vantage point. but if you actually want to become recognized and memorable, one of the easiest ways when reachin for the mental rolodex is indeed the stage name. its not a stitched rule, just an iron on patch. but its somethin to think about if you want to be a big rapper when you grow up. if you think your skills stand out, make your name name stand out. it will only help you from consumer stand point. and thats the main stand point you want helping you.

 

[DODE]

bay rap aint dead you dummy.
kreayshawn and lil b dont count as bay rappers.

 

[bg taz loc]

Sir, It is "dead" because all of these generic rappers who copy each other and copy whatever sound or trend is hot have paved a lane for wack generic artists like Lil B, Kreayshawn, V-Nasty etc. to be at the forefront of bay area rap music. It also doesn't help that most of the respectable rappers who were putting out quality music fizzled out over the past 5 years.

And I have to comment on the "lil, young" name thing, sir. Being in your late 20's mid 30's and beyond and calling yourself "Lil (enter generic name here) or Young (enter generic name here) is a bit ridiculous. It's like these ignorant negros don't want to grow up or something. They are all stuck in heir second and third childhoods, that is all, sir.

agree with the whole first paragraph. bu twhy is the tread turning in to a debate about whitch rappers call themself lil, big and so on
this is not the case with the bay alot cuz they dont bang you would see this more in L.A because names and reps are handed down like that

bay area and surrounding areas have some of the most original names in the rap game

whats more original than brotha lynch hung like that has to be the most original name in rap history Lmao

and he is the reason why this whole siccness board ever existed real talk

 

[trademarktaz]

i don't think it's dead, but it's harder to find good music. if someone went through every single artist who was pushing their music and picked only the good music you'd probably find plenty of good music.

everybody downloading these days doesn't help either since nobody wants to try to make good music just to see it make them a small amount of money on music sales. not many rappers are doing it for the love of music. and for those that do, a lot of them copy what's popular because they want to be as successful as possible with the modern audiences.

 

[TAY CAPONE1]

I HAVE A FEELING WE ARE ABOUT TO GET TO THE TIMES WHERE QUALITY REALLY COUNTS. IF ARTISTS AND LABELS ARENT STEPPIN IT UP IT WILL BE VERY HARD TO CREATE A FOLLOWING. #AMEN

 

[the 805]

I can't even find "real" e anymore.... it's all fake shit going around the bay... lots of fake pressed pills all over the place....

 

[ThaG]

Sir, It is "dead" because all of these generic rappers who copy each other and copy whatever sound or trend is hot have paved a lane for wack generic artists like Lil B, Kreayshawn, V-Nasty etc. to be at the forefront of bay area rap music. It also doesn't help that most of the respectable rappers who were putting out quality music fizzled out over the past 5 years.

And I have to comment on the "lil, young" name thing, sir. Being in your late 20's mid 30's and beyond and calling yourself "Lil (enter generic name here) or Young (enter generic name here) is a bit ridiculous. It's like these ignorant negros don't want to grow up or something. They are all stuck in heir second and third childhoods, that is all, sir.

To be fair to them, once you have picked that kind of names when you were indeed young and/or little, it is quite hard to change it later. What is Lil B going to call himself if he drops the "Lil"? Or someone called Young Thug, Lil Balla, etc.

 

[ThaG]

I HAVE A FEELING WE ARE ABOUT TO GET TO THE TIMES WHERE QUALITY REALLY COUNTS. IF ARTISTS AND LABELS ARENT STEPPIN IT UP IT WILL BE VERY HARD TO CREATE A FOLLOWING. #AMEN

I hope this will be the case too. But even if it happens, it will not make the average quality of the music much better simply because of how accessible making music itself has become, which means that as long as there is not shortage of candidates for hip-hop fame who should never come anywhere close to a microphone, the vast majority of music will still suck. It has always been the case that most music aren't exactly classic material, however in the early and mid 90s it was more like 50% dope / 50% garbage or even better than that, now it's >95% garbage

 

[FatBlunts209]

its a recession thats why..eberybody knows how to download music and movies nowadays..alot of people are tired of spending money on cds and only like 3 out of 18 tracks etc..as long as theres websites u can download from people are gonna do it, so alot of artist dropping cds arent recooperating the money they spent into thier project and are barely trying to break even..if rappers wanna get paid get out there in the streets and get your cds off hand to hand sales niggaz think cuz they got big time artist featured on it thats its just gonna fly off the shelves by word of mouth..bay rap isnt dead but i think alot of artist have just lost the motivation and downloading sucked the life out of the rap game but hit the bay the hardest..

 

[Nuttkase]

What is Lil B going to call himself if he drops the "Lil"?

Based God, duh.

 

[8FIVE8]

thank god for dowloading. it will take more than 10 songs tight songs for me to actually pay for music from now on. if ur a new artist who cant sell cd's and ur reading this shit. Its probably because ur beat selection sucks dick. even if ur lyrics are the hottest shit in the world. name a hit record or a classic album that has wack ass beats. there might be one or two. but i cant think of any. all i can think about right now is that im off tomorrow and i dont have to wake up and drive to work because im so lazy. and its night time and im eating cereal and hot cocoa for dinner. and i have to go to walmart because my wife wants some new make-up products she saw from some stinky bitch on youtube saying this new cream works. gott dammit.

 

[ThaG]

Based God, duh.

If he didn't have that other name

He's not the first Lil B, BTW, there are at least two others I can think of and who knows how many others

 

[pure_psi]

Over-saturated period. Like somebody mentioned earlier, since there's so many artists, the good ones get passed up after going through several bad ones. People need to support the solid artists and weed out the weak.

The Bay had it's look into the mainstream when the Hyphy movement first came out. I think if you analyze that, you'd realize why it amounted to nothing. There were some artists/groups gettin' looks into some major deals and even signed if I recall, but nothing has seen the light of day.

Most artists want to get on that mainstream level and get that mainstream $$.