WHO'S AT FAULT?

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Mar 18, 2003
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Sweet916 said:
Why? Where does this thinking come into play with the black community?
I don't understand your question. Are you asking me why blacks don't invest into black owned businesses? If so, I gave my opinion on a possible answer to that question later in this post.

Sweet916 said:
And where exactly will they learn this "proper english"? In school?
School is a place to start, but also; through the media (radio & television), through peer to peer contact, and through reading books, just to name a few.

Sweet916 said:
So basically, after being in 12 years of schooling that is underfunded, underinstructed, etc then probably barely making it in college because you don't really have the proper skills to keep up because of the schools you went to growing up, your expected to speak and "act" like those who weren't in the same learning environment or environment PERIOD that you were in.
Absolutely. But you're generalizing to make a point. And here's how. Not all black people are in underfunded and underinstructed schools. You're talking about kids living deep in the ghetto in places like Los Angeles, but that is not a reality for many African Americans. Every school I went to was full of African Americans, all of which got the same education as I did. Both colleges I have attended are full of African Americans as well, so what point are you trying to make because the way I see it, all walks of life are underprivelaged in different areas. Whats funny is that, in these areas, I am willing to bet these underprivelaged kids can make fun of how white people talk, but do not care to learn about it, or how to use it.

Sweet916 said:
Forget that you can do the work, you don't speak like "Tyler". And even if you do turn into this person you are not, you will never be respected regardless and how far will you really make it anyway, cause those who are fake can only keep the facade going for so long.
Who is talking about being fake? I'm sure as hell not.

Sweet916 said:
I'm not raggin on what your saying, don't take it as that cause I'm just kind ranting on this whole subject and your reply happened to be the last one I saw, I just feel like there is some blame in places other than the black community.
Speak your mind, it doesn't bother me one bit. And there is more than just "some" blame outside the black community, you just have to realize the core of my point to really understand where I'm coming from. I believe that African Americans should just "get up and start something". I don't believe this because white people shouldn't have to help them, I say this because I know white people are not going to help. If someone pushes me down, and doesn't help me up, then I am going to stand up on my own. If my leg is broken, I will grab ahold of anyhting I can and pull myself up.

Sweet916 said:
It easy to say "just get up and do something if you don't like it" but its easier said than done in a lot of instances where doors are shut in the first place. Who is responsible? Those who make decisions on where funding goes within different communities, those in control of government money issuance who have special interests in the "middle and upper-class" communities that block funding to innercity low income families, the folks who distribute the monies to school and do it based on location (why do the schools in the suburbs have central heat and air and the innercity school don't have any heat and air??), people who cut budgets in communities who genuinely are trying to revitalize and bring up the people that live in them. But lets build more prisons, lets cut education to "inner city schools first", and make sure folks have a nice cozy prison to stay in, with BOOKS that are up to date, everything and more than they could have out on the street. When in actuality, if they would invest in certain communites a little bit more, the jails wouldn't be so over crowded.
I agree! I'm not going to claim to know why inner city schools don't have central heating and air, although I must admit that is not the case for any of the cities I have lived in, but unless the schools are significantly old, then I don't see a single reason for this to be.

Sweet916 said:
Should it be black folks who come out and say "HEY I'm going to open up this business in my community" ? Right now in the neighborhood I grew up in, a big ass "revitilization" is in progress, with a black ex-NBA basketball player at the helm who went to school and grew up there. He is "giving back to the community" like what has been mentioned in this thread, but is he really? The businesses he is moving in are CORPORATE WHITE-OWNED business. Starbucks, etc. But brotha man who owns a coffee shop down the way is getting ready to have to close down cause he can't compete. Business are moving in now and it "looks" good and bring in the "integration" that the city wants (the neighborhood is a predominiately black neighborhood) so finally because there is a starbucks, etc, the community is now complete. LOL The bamboozling continues even within the black community itself. Terrible.
His dumb ass should have invested into brotha mans coffee shop if he was really giving back to the community. LOL @ Starbucks.. that could possibly be the whitest place to eat/drink in this country. I understand what you're saying though. A lot of black cats who make it in this white mans world eventually develope this white mans mentality. But you know what, it's a start. He owns the business so he will get a significant amount of funds... what he does with that is up in the air.