Who should Manny Pacquiao fight next?

[2-0-Sixx]

so you're saying JMM & Bradley are shot and wouldn't come to win?

Maidana fucking sucks, man. Dude got out-boxed by 90 year old Morales, Khan beat his ass for 10 out of 12 rounds and he didn't look good against DeMarcus Corley who lost 6 of his last 7 fights.

I think Pac would KO him within 2-3 rounds.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

JMM is suppose to fight diaz in july to tune up for pacman in november

not that I think diaz can win, but tune up fights before big matches have a history of going bad. Oscar vs Felix Sturm for example made oscar look terrible before his b-hop fight. If Marquez does anything less than dominate it wont look good, which is why this type of tune up is a bit risky.

 

[Tony]

No I'm not saying JMM is shot because the last time I seen him fight, he still looked pretty good. But at his age, putting on the extra weight (like he did against Floyd) won't be good for him.

Maidana doesn't suck. Morales put up a great fight and if Morales is 90 years old then how old you would say Shane is?

And Khan didn't beat his ass 10 out of 12 rounds. Khan scored an early knockdown with a nice body shot and then Maidana came on strong in the end to make it a really, close fight. I can recall Khan's face being bloodied up and he barely survived that fight. Maidana is a strong finisher, cut the crap.

It's funny how you downplay potential high risk fights/fighters for Pacquiao.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

maidana won the last few rounds against khan because khan got caught with his weak chin and had to hang on for dear life. Khan was easily dominating prior to that.

Morales was considered shot, retired, then came back and arguably beat maidana. Everything maidana does wrong morales was able to exploit.

maidana is a tough guy type fighter that comes forward. He's a good test for certain guys but no way in hell should he be considered fighting on the most elite level, against a pac or a floyd. it would be david diaz all over again, actually diaz has better technique then maidana and was actually a title holder.

you say pac fights guys coming off losses or bad performances, fights the same style guys, and yet you want him to fight maidana who had a terrible performance and is the perfect style match up for pac. make up your mind

 

[Tony]

Please, Maidana was knocked down once and then penalized. You act like Maidana just got the crap beat out of him. Khan barely finished, Maidana won't quit and is a strong finisher.

I want to see Pacquiao fight someone that's coming to win instead of just showing up to fight and collect a paycheck. Don't forget about the faceoff with Clottey and Pacquiao, and how they were giggling like little girls. We won't see that with Miadana (who beat Ortiz)

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Please, Maidana was knocked down once and then penalized. You act like Maidana just got the crap beat out of him.

He was getting the crap beat out of him, khan was boxing his ears off till late in the fight. It was a great fight I've seen it several times.

Khan barely finished, Maidana won't quit and is a strong finisher.

Actually if you've watched Maidana more you'd know he has some bad stamina issues...

I want to see Pacquiao fight someone that's coming to win instead of just showing up to fight and collect a paycheck. Don't forget about the faceoff with Clottey and Pacquiao, and how they were giggling like little girls. We won't see that with Miadana (who beat Ortiz)

Like I said, you don't think JMM or Bradley would come to win? They most certainly would and they are both far better than maidana.

 

[T-Rip]

Maidana and Ortiz need to fight again, it just makes sense leaving the fighter everybody wants Manny to fight (Marquez) actually happen. The question is, is Ortiz scared to fight Maidana again cuz its a big risk with little reward in that its not a big money fight and would kill Ortizs status as all of a sudden being this great fighter again.

 

[Tony]

Maidana would have to come up in weight, I think Ortiz is more comfortable at 147 as opposed to 140. Marquez is getting up there in age and could have trouble carrying the weight.

 

[T-Rip]

Ur right about Marquez but I think him and Manny could easily make 140. Maidana and Ortiz could easily meet at a catch weight if its that much of a problem and if Ortiz really has pride he would avenge his only loss. I'm not sold on that fag at all, he's still a quitter in my eyes and benefited fighting a stand still lazy fuck that can barely put punches together. Manny needs to fight Marquez even if it is a bit late so it won't look like he avoided him cuz he knew the truth about Marquez getting the better of him

 

[Tony]

Yeah I hear you about avenging his loss.... I wonder if that's what he'll do.

 

[MOREBASS]

^^Pac is the #1 p4p fighter so it would only make sense that Marquez challenges Pac for Pac's titles, not the other way around. 140 wouldn't be bad, problem though is there wouldn't be a title on the line.

But 145 should be fine. They will weigh virtually the same on fight night. JMM's last fight against Katsidis, he weighed 148 pounds on fight night. Pac will weigh right around that on fight night. If I were marquez I'd come in light, like 142. Shouldn't make a difference.

Also, when they fought at 130 pounds the first time Pac weighed about 144 pounds on fight night. When they fought at 135 pounds pac weighed about 147 and JMM was 141.

True that, but I think it would be most impressive for Pacquiao to go for a 5th linear, and also beating Marquez at arguably his best weight...instead of a weight he's already looked pretty average at once before.


Like I said, in reality, he's going to take the 145 weight because he's the serious B-side in the fight. I can already hear the "Oh, Marquez was too slow and heavy at that weight...blah blah blah"

 

[bigface]

True that, but I think it would be most impressive for Pacquiao to go for a 5th linear, and also beating Marquez at arguably his best weight...instead of a weight he's already looked pretty average at once before.


Like I said, in reality, he's going to take the 145 weight because he's the serious B-side in the fight. I can already hear the "Oh, Marquez was too slow and heavy at that weight...blah blah blah"

No what you will hear is the truth and the truth is Manny should've fought Marquez 2 years ago. Why fight Cottley, Margarito, or bitch ass Shane when Marquez was begging to fight you and both fights between eachother was so close.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

why did JMM turn down an immediate rematch with Pacquiao for the biggest payday of his career, instead choosing to fight Chris John in Indonesia for $75k? (a fight JMM lost)

And yes, Pacquiao/Top Rank offered Marquez a fight two years ago and JMM demanded a 50/50 split and OST (both are the equivalent of saying "no thanks!")

 

[bigface]

Marquez should have a 50/50 split he's a champion and both fights was close.

 

[8FIVE8]

206 got this boxing shit on lock. u own these yappers everytime.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Marquez should have a 50/50 split he's a champion and both fights was close.

If you honestly believe JMM deserves a 50/50 split you have no clue how boxing works. It's like saying JMM deserved 50/50 against Mayweather. Or Mayorga deserved 50/50 against Oscar de la hoya, etc.

I mean, why do you think JMM just ACCEPTED a $5 million gaurantee against pacquiao right now? When manny will be gauranteed $15-20 million?

 

[bgrumpyp]

why did JMM turn down an immediate rematch with Pacquiao for the biggest payday of his career, instead choosing to fight Chris John in Indonesia for $75k? (a fight JMM lost)

And yes, Pacquiao/Top Rank offered Marquez a fight two years ago and JMM demanded a 50/50 split and OST (both are the equivalent of saying "no thanks!")

WTF....Are you serious with that bullshit? Fuck your stupid!

Marquez even went to the philippines to call him out right after the 2nd fight.

50/50 spit whats wrong with that? Marquez won the fights in realty so Pac should be making less. If your trying to suggest Marquez didnt want to take the fight and used the $ as a excuse then your bigger idiot then I thought!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

WTF....Are you serious with that bullshit? Fuck your stupid!

Why you calling me stupid? That's factual, I'm not making shit up. Look it up yourself, the first fight which was a draw pacquiao offered JMM an immediate rematch which would have been a career payday for JMM, he declined, fought Chris John for peanuts instead and lost the fight on his home turf.

JMM is dope but he's made a couple bad decisions in his career.

Marquez even went to the philippines to call him out right after the 2nd fight.

50/50 spit whats wrong with that? Marquez won the fights in realty so Pac should be making less. If your trying to suggest Marquez didnt want to take the fight and used the $ as a excuse then your idiot then I thought!

Actually Marquez didn't win the fights, despite what you or anyone else feels, pac won. But even that is besides the point.

The way boxing works is that the draw, the most popular guy gets the most money. This has been the way it's always been for over 100 years. Oscar de la hoya wasn't always the best fighter, but he never ever fought for less than his opponent, he was always making more, despite if he lost, how old he was, etc. Floyd, Pac, Hopkins, Tito, they all got the small end of the deal whereas Oscar got the majority.

Pacquiao & JMM are never going to be a 50/50 fight. Pacquiao is the huge draw that's been in several 1 million + ppv buys, JMM has never done that.

So, for JMM to demand a 50/50 split after Pac/Top rank offered him a fight, he knew he would say no. But poor JMM he was only being used by Golden Boy as leverage at the time, and they are the ones that demanded 50/50 split in order to screw over bob arum/pacquiao.

 

[bigface]

WTF....Are you serious with that bullshit? Fuck your stupid!

Marquez even went to the philippines to call him out right after the 2nd fight.

50/50 spit whats wrong with that? Marquez won the fights in realty so Pac should be making less. If your trying to suggest Marquez didnt want to take the fight and used the $ as a excuse then your bigger idiot then I thought!

Manny can't do no wrong. He can duck and dodge fighters and it's all good because his fans will make excuses for him.

 

[Tony]

WTF....Are you serious with that bullshit? Fuck your stupid!

Marquez even went to the philippines to call him out right after the 2nd fight.

50/50 spit whats wrong with that? Marquez won the fights in realty so Pac should be making less. If your trying to suggest Marquez didnt want to take the fight and used the $ as a excuse then your bigger idiot then I thought!

Lol, don't forget that after Morales beat Pacquiao the first time, Morales offered Pacquiao an immediate rematch and Pacquiao turned it down. Morales loses, then Pacquiao fights Morales after Morales lost.