who misses the old bay style?

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Frisco playa

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Feb 3, 2005
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Man The old school bay shit was the best, this is the best of 90's to me
I.M.P
RBL Posse
11/5
2-illeven
U.D.I
e-40
B-legit
Cloud 9
Richie rich
3x krazy
Dre Dog
Luniz
Dru Down
Messy Marv
San quinn(Hustle continues was the shit)
Dubee
and last but not least cellski

Man i miss all that old school mobb shit. The song that got me hooked on all this bay shit was the song by I.M.P-Frisco. I couldn't stop bumpin that shit, ever since I heard that song song was hooked on bay shit.
 
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Meelo

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May 31, 2005
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DJ Mark 7 said:
People talk about us "needing" to change our sound to adapt to mainstream....I don't see the South having changed their sound....Why should we?
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thats exactly wtf im sayin, we just gotta keep doing US, eventually our time will come, we cant force that shit. its like u chasing a fine ass bitch, she aint gon' fuck wit u if u all on her nuts, but when u play it koo and pay the bitch no mind, she'll come to u. lol, get it?
 
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Meandme

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Sep 30, 2005
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Doc Truth-Mike Mosely & Sam Bostic used live instrument too. And that shit you say hardly makes sense... The 90s mobb music had "goofy sounds", but not the new Rick Rock shit? If anybody does use goofy sounds, it's him...
And yeah, all that talk about "changing our sound to have more appeal" is fucking nonsense, because it's NOT WORKING. Bay rap sounds mainstream now, but it's get no mainstream love, so what's the fucking point? The only time the bay was gettin some recognition is in the early and mid '90s when the pure mob shit was poppin' with producers like Mike Mosley & Sam Bostic, Studio Ton, K-Lou, Khayree, T.C., Ant Banks, etc. Real funk, with live bass & guitar players and crazy keyboard melodies, not some random "futuristic" sounds pasted togther at random. That new shit aims to be commercial, but it don't sell. What's the point? Everybody's talkin about they need to make money and reach more fans outside the bay... it's not working. Sales are low as fuck. And you know what? Most people I talk to who ain't from the bay are NOT feelin that hyphy shit at all. Yet when I show people some of that real mob funk from the 90s, they love it. It's not even about going back to the past, you can take the mob music and update it to '05. The South didn't get big by tryin to sound mainstream, the west coast didn't blow up back in the day by tryin' to sound like New York did at the time-they came with their own sound, NWA and them, and people loved it. I'm tellin' y'all, copying some other style DON'T WORK. We might get a few bay rappers to blow up with extraordinary promotion, but as a movement? Hell no, not if the bay doesn't sound like the bay. Shit I'mma bump me some RBL right now, that's real bay music.
 
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STREETFIGHT

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Oct 31, 2003
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The South has changed its sound since the early 90's (listen to some old Ghetto Boyz,)...EVERYBODY has changed their sound since the early 90's- Why shouldn't the Bay. I know we all love that shit we grew up on or that our big brothers we looked up to use to bump in they Caprice Classics, but that doesn't mean it's the holygrail of music for the duration of the Bay Area's existance. The new generation of kids don't want to really hear what was poppin in 1992. I think they respect it, but they don't really want to hear it. Are they wrong? No. It's called an opinion. When I want to hear that "classic" Bay music I go to my cd's and zone out. But heres what's funny if that sound was so this and so that then why did THE BAY stop supporting it? Why did the sales drop? Did people of the time get tierd of that sound? I remember people IN THE BAY during the late 90's complaining about the Bay sound being tierd and dead. They wanted a change. They were sick of hearing those same ass mob beats with those same bass lines. Now time has passed and people want it back. That doesn't mean the new shit is weak. I see alot of promise in the new artist like Turf Talk, The Frontline, F.A.B, The Team, Ya Boy and Bailey. I don't care what anybody says those new artist got gas like the Middle East. I like Keak's new shit, Quinn's new shit and Messy Marv's new shit. Those cats are like right in the middle of New/Old. It's funny how people can lable the new shit as a "Hyphee" fad, but don't lable "Mobb Music" as a fad that had it's run. Personally I think there is room for boath, but I would really like to see these new artist get there chance to make their shit pop off and grow. I remember some people on here a year ago were saying "I'll never like that new shit..." now they are like "it grew on me" or "I think they are boath cool"...it takes time to like something new. The Bay artist needs to keep making what ever the hell they want to make ALONG AS THEY REPRESENT THE BAY...It's all good with me.
 
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Meandme

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Sep 30, 2005
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The South hasn't really changed its sound. The last Geto Boy album that came out not too long ago was a logical progression of what they were doing before, they didn't get all crunk to jump on the bandwagon... and hell, some of those popular records don't sound too different from something that could have been released in '97. Crunk music has been around for a while. The south sound progresses, but doesn't completely change. It gets older and make minor changes, but it doesn't switch identity, basically.
Same for the East Coast. A lotta NY cats are mad are their rappers making crunk records and all that shit, they want them to bring the NY sound back. The true NY sound is still there, it's progressed a little, but the core is still the same. The New LA shit? It sounds like a natural progression of the old LA shit more and more.
What the bay did is pull a 180. Instead of taking what it had and moving along with it, it came with some completely different shit and everybody started doing it all at once. And the problem is, that hyphy shit ain't really new. Most people outside the bay who hear it think it's just crunk music. They don't really see no difference. Most bay rap sounds like mainstream rap now, but with bay slang. It doesn't stick out all that much. That's not a new sound. And you talk about the late 90s... 99% of bay rap wasn't coming with the same quality as before back then. That's why people were sick of this shit. It's not like most late-90s bay rap had the same quality as mid-90s rap...
 
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Doc Truth

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May 5, 2005
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I never said the bay needs to adapt to whats hot, they've already done it. All bay shit sounds like south rap. It used to sound like neptunes rip offs, then it went to kanye now its all like Lil Jon Crap. That Stuff Yo Couch, That Hood Stars, All sounds like some Lil jon Crunk crap. Rick Rock makes goofy shit for the bay because thats what the bay wants. You heard his shit for Fabolous, Jay Z , BustaRhymes, Angie Martinez? Very non goofy, why? Because out there they dont want that shit. Out here they do. The bays beats are wack admit it. Thats the first complaint from everybody I hear who dont like bay music. The Beats are wack.
 
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ValleyEnt

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Jul 27, 2005
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At Least APT 3/DNA Gots that formula and is still Putting out Some O.G. Bay Flavor for ya Ear. Plus they are Connected with alot of BAY O.G.'s so thats a Plus. Fuck all this Hyphy Bullshit. It's Not Gonna Blow up and it's Just Creating a Bunch of E-TARDS. I like GANGSTA RAP....Not HYPHY CRAP! Fuck you and your YEEEEEEEEEEE Bullshit.
 
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Meandme

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Sep 30, 2005
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Doc Truth said:
I never said the bay needs to adapt to whats hot, they've already done it. All bay shit sounds like south rap. It used to sound like neptunes rip offs, then it went to kanye now its all like Lil Jon Crap. That Stuff Yo Couch, That Hood Stars, All sounds like some Lil jon Crunk crap. Rick Rock makes goofy shit for the bay because thats what the bay wants. You heard his shit for Fabolous, Jay Z , BustaRhymes, Angie Martinez? Very non goofy, why? Because out there they dont want that shit. Out here they do. The bays beats are wack admit it. Thats the first complaint from everybody I hear who dont like bay music. The Beats are wack.
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1. I know you didn't say the bay needed to adapt its style to what's hot, I was talking to some other people on this thread.
2.That shit about Rick Rock... What the fuck are you talking about? Now you talking about the new Rick Rock shit being goofy, which is the same thing you said about mob shit, which leads me to this conclusion: you can't fuckin tell the difference between mob music (which was poppin' ten years ago) and the new hyphy sound, when both are completely different.
"The bays beats are wack admit it."-That's a stupidass statement. The beats the bay used to have in the mob years, especially around 94-96, are the best that ever hit the rap game to me. I would have never listened to bay rap if I thought they were wack, and I wouldn't be posting on this forum. I'm not feelin most of the more recent shit, so I can't speak on that. But there's nothing objective about music, so you can't expect somebody who does feel those new beats to "admit they're wack", because that person doesn't think they are. I know a lotta people are feelin them...
 
3xLaZY

3xLaZY

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Jun 2, 2002
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i'm so sick of the hyphy shit, i don't even have the energy to go into it. i'm ok with evolving with the times, but it seems like we completely abandoned our roots. fuck rapping for the radio. what happened to artists making music that is an expression of self...making music that challenged their creativity, not following the next man.

matter of fact, fuck evolving, lets bring it back to 96...
 
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bayboy

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Feb 10, 2005
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bottom line for me is...leave it up to the streets...it took the radio and the industry ten fuckin years to finally catch on and now that they have we changed our style!?..to me i think that will just set us back again.

a perfect example is San Quinn...the nigguh was set to blow up...he has the delivery the lyrics...but wut happened? the nigguh almost seems left behind...the answer to that for me was his choice of beats, no mo mobb muzik...the hustle continues was his last mobb solo...same with operation takeover...after those nothin happened...
now take a look at messy marv, he stayed the same...neva had raw ass rhymes but he had good delivery and an ear for that mobb muzik!!! granted his shit has changed a lil but it is still mobb muzik...so if you look at the two now which of those two has a better head start at mainstream?
obviously Messy Marv as of now...which shows mobb muzik works!!!
but we'll wait to see on "the rock" if San Quinn went back like they said he did...
 
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