"White" rappers in a "black" game????

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Interesting shit
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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN DEC 07, 2003 19:24:05 ET XXXXX

SECRET SERVICE PLANS INTERVIEW OF EMINEM AFTER 'PRESIDENT DEAD' RAP

**Exclusive**

The Secret Service is planning to conduct an interview with rapper EMINEM, government sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT, after a new song by the artist appeared on the Internet -- a song that wished the "president dead!"

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"We take all matters involving comments made about the death of a sitting president very seriously," a well-placed government source directly involved in the matter said this weekend. "This matter will be investigated fully, and I expect Mr. Mathers will be interviewed directly."

The Secret Service has reviewed a studio quality version of the track WE AS AMERICANS.

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"Personally, I found it quite alarming and reckless," the federal official said.

In the song, the rapper declares he would not perform only for cash: "I don't rap for dead presidents," Eminem says. "I'd rather see the president dead. It's never been said, but I set precedents and the standards, and they can't stand it!"

No determination has been made regarding the song and if it constitutes a direct threat against President Bush, the official explained.

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A spokesman for INTERSCOPE RECORDS, Eminem's label, claims the cut [which also features the rapper bragging, "Bin Laden is on my ass"] is an "an unfinished song that was either lost or stolen, and there was no determination when, where, how or if it was going to be used."

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Ethereal

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tadou said:
I dont mind whites in hip-hop....as long as they aren't racists, like Eminem.
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What do you consider racist? The use of racial slurs?

I have a couple of question's for everyone.

If he said the same shit minus the word "nigger/nigga (whichever he used) would this still be racist?

How does it differ from when a black man references racial slurs towards white people. Keep in mind you don't know the rappers perception anymore then you know em's. We're talking words on wax.

Why sould we place emphasis on one rapper and not the other. If you want equality, you must treat everyone equal, correct?
 
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Gordon Gekko

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Nitro the Guru said:
What do you consider racist? The use of racial slurs?

I have a couple of question's for everyone.

If he said the same shit minus the word "nigger/nigga (whichever he used) would this still be racist?

How does it differ from when a black man references racial slurs towards white people. Keep in mind you don't know the rappers perception anymore then you know em's. We're talking words on wax.

Why sould we place emphasis on one rapper and not the other. If you want equality, you must treat everyone equal, correct?
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now thats real talk. I get so tired of fellow brothas complainin about sayin nigga when they say it theirselves. I rap myself, and I dont use that word in my raps, I dont use it at all. But the word means the same thing no matter who says it. Also...nigga and nigger has the same meaning, just different ways of pronouncing it.
 
Ethereal

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EDJ said:
^THE gAME AIN'T EQUAL. THE PECEPTION AIN'T EQUAL. SO HOW DO YOU MAKE SUCH ASSESSMENT? WITH WHAT INTEgRITY DO YOU CALIBRATE SUCH?
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And it's going to remain unequal as long as you look at it like that and play into the unequality. I formed this assessment based on a form of hypocrisy that I see in the community. That being the use of racial slurs towards other people based on skin color. The game ain't equal? So what, I didn't make it that way, and I don't care to cherrish the opportunities that come along with it being unequal as you do. You want to have an equal society, but your keeping it unbalanced yourself by utilizing the benefits of the table being unevened, that of course--for one example--is the careless use of racial slurs towards white people. I understand that the word NIGGER is far more harmful that the woird HONKEY but they are damaging racial words none the less, and if you are going to use them or any of their related phrases, then you are only helping to keep everything uequal.
 
Gizmo

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Fuck Bitches and Hoes.......
Oh Ya Fuck this thread, It seems racist to segregate some one from music cause of his skin tone.
 
Hihlosis

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white swiping from black, yellow swiping from red...............not one race/ethinicty can say one form (country, rap, rock etc...) solely derived from his or her race..............any form of music influences the masses, it's what you do with it........outro
 
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that's funny EDJ...
cus i've actually seen you reppin me about how i could take out rappers or somethin like that...

but you don't think i deserve to be in this game?
yeah it's a black game...and i'm not color blind, i do see black,white, brown, etc...
but shit don't change me...
i am who i am
one man's punk another mans gangsta

you pick the labels, i'll keep on keepin on
 
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This thread is bullshit. If your black being racist because someones white and raps your a bigot. Also most black rappers who feel like that are scared because they are seeing white people who can rap better then them and they think its "their" game. haha this thread is a joke.

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EDJ

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YOUNg MOE,
QUIT gETTIN´ IT TWISTED PLAYA. DON´T PERCEIVE WHAT YOU DON´T KNOW. IN LIgHT OF THAT,

YOU STRESSED, ¨that's funny EDJ...
cus i've actually seen you reppin me about how i could take out rappers or somethin like that...¨

I USED YOU IN EXAMPLES TO PROVE TO SOME OF THESE WHITEBOYS THAT I AIN´T RACIST. YOU KNOW I DIg YOUR FLOW, AND IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH BETTER YOU BEIN´WHITE, CAUSE MUTHA-FUKAS DON´T EXPECT THAT SHIT FROM YOU.

THEN YOU STRESSED, ¨but you don't think i deserve to be in this game?¨

WHO SAID THAT? WHEN DID I EVA SAY THAT SHIT? IF YOU CAN HOLD YOUR OWN AND PROVE YOUR SELF, THEN YOU IN LIKE FLINT. IF YOU HAVE A PREDOMINANT ANgLO RACIST MINDSET, THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU THROWIN´YOURSELF IN THE MIX, WHEN YOU´RE IN FACT THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE AND NOT THE RULE ITSELF.



THEN YOU STRESSED, ¨yeah it's a black game...and i'm not color blind, i do see black,white, brown, etc...
but shit don't change me...¨

AND IT SHOULD´T. YOU IS WHO YOU IS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, ¨i am who i am¨

AND SO AM I. SO DO WHAT YOU DO. THOUgHT YOU THOUgHT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, ¨one man's punk another mans gangsta¨

DON´T BELITTLE YOURSELF LIKE THAT. I AIN´T NOBODY´S PUNK, AND YOU SHOULDN´T LOOK AT SHIT LIKE THAT. YOU TO STRIVE TO BE RESPECTED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, ¨you pick the labels, i'll keep on keepin on¨

WHAT LABEL DID I CHOOSE? I ONLY CALLED YOU YOUNgMOE, THAT MUTHA-FUKA FROM THE SCO.

AND NITRO,

I DIDN´T MAKE SHIT HOW IT IS EITHA. IT IS WHAT IT IS.
 
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this is my view. i grew up in the suburbs. never had to live in the inner city. im dutch/irish/native/german/french, and im damn proud and wouldnt change myself for shit (is that white pride?). the first rap i listened to was MC Hammer back in first grade, because at the time he had the hot shit that you could nod your head to. at the same time i was listening to Metallica, Tom Petty, Jimi Hendrix, etc. after time, hammer got old, and i kept on listening to rock. once junior high school came into play, things started to change. tho i was residing in the suburbs, my mentality started to change. i was barely ever home, started spending my time at the dope houses, smokin weed, stealin, makin knucklehead friends, etc. it didnt matter to me where i was at, i was doin what i wanted to, and what interested me. i started to listen to rap again because i was living a lot of the shit they were talkin about. even tho im out in the burbs, my family life was FAR from perfect. i really didnt have much positive parental influence at all, and that mixed with the rush of hormones and testosterone i believe drove me to where i ended up. as the years went on, shit got deeper. ive had to live in 30 year old rotten/moldy RVs with no heat/water, i had to hustle and bust my ass for my food. i was gettin bad in crystal meth. ive slanged from WAY out in the boonies to the fuckin crack block (mainly white center/seattle). i never needed a ghetto pass, cuz if you tried to check me for one, chences are id take yours and sell it back to you. i never banged a set or click, but i have plenty of friends that did. i seen and experienced a WHOLE lot of shit for some white dude form the burbs. shit, wheres MY god damn BMW? wheres MY 2 parent family? wheres MY college? not in this suburb, ill tell you that much. man, i hafto see these fuckers that NEVER had a struggle ALL the time. im surrounded by em. i decided to change my life for the better. when i was younger, me and my moms never had a good relationship. now, i can tell her i love her, and she is actually willing to help me out when i need it. for that, i feel blessed. you cant pin a stereotype on me, for i am a stereotype breaker. "i am who i am"
 
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DeluzioN

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oh, and my view of rap. its music, plain and simple. im not gonna come down on the singer of sevendust because hes a black man in a heavy metal band, just like im not tryin to hear some fucker tell me i cant rhyme my reality. i want $, especially yours, yours, and yours. rap is just another form of mutated noise. the first rap/hip-hop was PARTY music. they wernet talkin aboutbustin caps and sellin crack (tho it didnt take long for that to be brought up). rap was created for FUN, cant anybody see that? it was created to be enjoyed and felt. and now, its being used to MAKE $. so if i or ANYBODY else can make $ by manipulating sound, makin people wanna shake thier booty, talkin about thier cars, or how they lived in a crackhouse, MORE POWER TO EM.
 
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this is funny...

so by definition, of what has been said here is that rap, according to those african americans represented here, and alot in the U.S., today, feel that White people, should basically stay away from anything "african american"...thats the basic premise i get from ready this crap...

so in turn, african americans should never buy or drive a car...seeing as the car was invented by a white man, by your definition, thats a "white thang", and african americans should leave that alone, cuzz african americans, wouldn't understand.

or

how about the light bulb...a white man invented that...you couldn't possibly understand the concept of light, so there goes any african americans with lights on in there house or apartment...

or even better yet, how about this one, this is a real good one...

lets take our government, which by all definitions was created by WHITE MEN, FOR THE WHITE MAN, AND STILL FOR THE WHITE MAN...so by the definition in this thread, all the african americans should cease any and leave any office being held by an african american in this government...

once again, since it was a white thing, you couldn't possibely understand...

if you feel the sarcasm, i'm layin it on pretty thick...

rap is by definition a form of music is it not?...therefore music by definition has no skin color, nor does think or talk or in any form or shape communicate by itself to the masses, and set a standard of laws or commandments that allow for any race to only play a certain kind of music...

african americans also forget, especially christian african americans in the united states, that there form of religion is a white based religion thru and thru(i.e. white christ).

EDJ...lmao, man you still on this same ol'bullshit...tryin get the white man...lol...man i still pray for you...i still got your first cd you sent me, and i still play it...

i said it back when ROLOC was still runnin shit on the old boards...

it's about compassion for one another, learning from one another, within the your community, and them spreading outward...

hate, division, seperation...all tools of the dark lord himself...whites, blacks, browns, yellows...we breath the same, we bleed the same, we eat the same, we shit the same, we give birth the same, we all die the same...

indivuality is not based on your race, but your inner sanctum...


reap what you sow....
 
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