I do wanna apologize for my comments. I aint gone lie though. Most of what I said was the truth, about white people in the past blaming the problems of the world on rap, U cant tell me that aint the truth. But these days, u got some white folks out here thats real and who living this shit. None in the mainstream, but I know a few personally who live this shyt. They rap too and I dont have a problem with it. Im just tired of surburban ass white kids (and black kids), pickin up a damn mic and wanna get on there talkin about they had so hard of a life. Im trying to keep rap on the side of the real, and not let it fall into the hands of those who wanna take it and destroy it.
"White" rappers in a "black" game????
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You need to rephrase your choice of words. Its "people who are white" not "white people" that were blaming rap for societies problems. If I were to say that "black people steal tv's (a racial stereotype)" I'm sure that would come off racist. Their may be "people that are black that steal tv's" but to say "black people steal tv's" gives the impression that the whole races does. See what I'm sayin? And besides, their were black people back then, as well as today, who condemn rap...
you show me a rapper who does what he does other than for moeny, fame, girls, jewelry, cars etc etc...ill show you a flying pig...except for the few that have messages here and there (dead prez, nas?, mos def)..its not about the culture, its not about understanding rap...its about making money in a bussiness which now includes all races of people...you cant tell me a rapper sitting on dubs, flashing his 50 karat 20 pound medallion , wearing his fubu shirt and rocawear headband, with a wad of cash in his hand slapping some girls ass is doing it because he "understands" rap...lol.
The rap/music game is a BUSINESS that generates money. I look at it as such. I don't look at it as talent, demos, albums, flows and production. I look at it as ASCAP, BMI, CLAUSES and BIDDING/FIGHTING for money and large budget projects. I could give a rats ass about ANYONES ALBUM, TALENT, DEMOS AND FLOWS. ALL I WANT IS MONEY FOR STUDIO TIME, MONEY FOR VERSES, MONEY FOR PRODUCTION, MONEY FOR MIXING AND MONEY FOR WHATEVER SERVICES I PROVIDE! I care about the QUALITY of MY services offered but, I could care less about MC-NIGGAIBEBLASTINFODACASH. I'm concerned about points and how much money , I get from commercial releases. I could care less about hooking ANYONE up. WHITE OR BLACK. DID YOU HOOK ME UP WHEN I SHELLED OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON EQUIPMENT? NOPE. IF YOU WERE SLANGING ON THE BLOCK WOULD YOU GIVE FREE YOLA TO EVERY FIEND WHO PROMISED TO GLADLY PAY YOU TUESDAY FOR A TEN PIECE TODAY? HELL NAW!
I've noticed something during the past 6 months. The whites, latinos and asians are WILLING to PAY for recording time and services. A LOT of blacks want the "hook up". This is speaking from MY experience. A lot of blacks CAN'T relate to the technical aspect of music recording. Try this experiement: Find a BLACK/AFRICAN AMERICAN rapper or person who claims to rap. Ask that person the following questions:
When was the last time you recorded in the studio?
What type of mic did you use?
Did the engineer compress your vocals? If so were the settings?
What mixing console did you use?
Do you have publishing?
I gurantee that if you ask 10 black rappers these questions 9 of them will give you the DUMBEST look ever and give you the following replies:
"I don't be knowin all dat der shit all I do is rap"
"I'm not knowin all I do is spit"
"I dont know all I do is rap"
"Man I cant tell you all i do is get on the mic"
MAYBE THIS IS DUE TO LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND ACCESS TO COMPUTERS AND BOOKS BUT BLACKS ARE NOT RAISED TO BE OWNERS. BLACKS GEEK OFF THE PUBLISHING LIKE SMOKERS, USUALLY DON'T BUY EQUIPMENT, INVEST IN THE "BLING BLING" IMAGE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT BEING BROKE 3 YEARS LATER. WHEN MOST BLACK MUSICIANS GET AN ADVANCE OR BONUS (WHICH IS RECOUPABLE) THEY SPEND IT ON HOES, CARS, FLASHY RINGS AND ALIZE. HOW MANY OF THEM TAKE THE MONEY AND DO THE FOLLOWING:
INVEST IN RECORDING EQUIPMENT (MORE MONEY FOR THEM WHEN THE ALBUM IS SOLD BECAUSE THEY HAVE REC EXPENSES COVERED)
INVEST IN OTHER MARKETS (THIS WILL HELP WHEN THE ALBUM SALES ARE AT A MINIMUM)
INVEST IN OTHER TALENT AND KEEP THE BLACK DOLLAR FLOWING WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF YOUR WHITE, BLACK, YELLOW, GREEN, HINDU,CHRISTIAN OR ATHIEST. IF YOU HAVE THE CASH AND I VIBE WITH YOU I WILL WORK WITH YOU. AT THE END OF THE DAY ARTIST LIKE MOS DEF, COMMON, THE ROOTS, NAS AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF (WHO DONT RAP BLING BLING) STILL DO IT FOR THE CASH. IF THEY DIDN'T THEY WOULD NOT BE MEMBERS OF ASCAP OR BMI. SIMPLE FACT.
I DO WHAT I DO FOR SEVERAL REASONS AND IM *SERIOUS* WHEN I SAY THIS:
1.TO BRING ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AND THE END OF THE WORLD
2.TO GET $$$$$$$ SO I CAN GET MY PEEPS OUT OF AMERICA AND INTO AFRIKA AND ISRAEL
3.TO GET MONEY TO FINANCE OTHER PROJECTS
4.TO GET PEOPLE TO SHAKE THE 501 (c)3 CHURCH.
AT FIRST I THOUGHT I WAS WRONG FOR THINKING LIKE THIS BUT IM NOT. I SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR MY TIME, TALENT AND SKILLS. IT'S ON ME TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES AND BLESS OTHERS AFTER I HAVE BEEN CASHED OUT. HOWEVER IN DOING SO PEOPLE WILL TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE SO I CHOOSE MY BUSINESS WISELY.
SO WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BLACKS AND WHITES? WELL BLACKS (AND LATINOS) MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THIS BUSINESS YET THEY DON'T OWN 10% OF THE BUSINESS/WEALTH. THE WHITE PEOPLE (THOSE WHO OWN COMPANIES) DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BLACK "PRODUCT" OR BLACK "ORIGINS" EXCEPT IN CASES OF EXPLOITATION FOR MONETARY GAIN. WHO DO YOU SEE USING HIP HOP STARS IN ADS TO ENDORSE PRODUCTS? WHITE OWNED COMPANIES. BURGER KING, PEPSI, GENERAL MOTORS, CARTOON NETWORK, BET THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. WHEN BLACKS DO IT THEY ARE CONSIDRED "TOO BLACK" OR "PRO BLACK".
AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS ABOUT MONEY. ITS NOT ABOUT FLOWS, SKILLS, PRODUCTION OR TALENT. ITS ABOUT WHO CAN BE MARKETED TO THE TARGET AUDIENCE, WHO CAN SLANG THE MOST UNITS AND WHO CAN OVERCOME PIRACY. WHITE RAPPERS WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED POOR WHITE TRASH FOR DOING NIGGER MUSIC. BLACKS WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED NIGGERS FOR RIDING "GHETTO SLEDS" AND MAKING NIGGER MUSIC.
IF YOUR SKIN COLOR/LOOKS/SEXUALITY WILL HELP YOU SLANG UNITS THEY WILL FEED OFF THAT. IT'S THE WAY THE GAME IS PLAYED AND I DIDNT MAKE THOSE RULES.
IF YOU DONT LIKE THOSE RULES DONT PLAY THE GAME. DONT BUY MUSIC (I HAVENT PURCHASED AN ALBUM SINCE DJ QUIK SAFE AND SOUND), DOWNLOAD ALL THE MUSIC YOU CAN AND SIP LEMONADE. IT'S A SIMPLE PROCESS THAT EVEN THE DUMBEST OF YOU CAN COMPREHEND. STOP BEING USELESS EATERS/CONSUMERS.
THE AVERAGE "THUG" RAPPER IS SIMPLY A MODIFIED VERSION OF THE "BRUTE NEGRO" OR "BRUTE NIGGER". I ENCOURAGE YOU (LIKE IT WILL DO ANY GOOD) TO HIT THE JIM CROW WEBSITE (HIT GOOGLE AND TYPE JIM CROW MUSEUM)
HAVE WHITE PEOPLE "STOLE" BLACK MUSIC? YEP. BLACK ALBUMS WERE CUT ONLY TO HAVE WHITE FACES PASTED ON THE ALBUM COVERS OR TO HAVE WHITE PEOPLE LIP SYNC THE MUSIC IN PERFORMENCES. THATS A *FACT* THAT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.
THE MAJORITY OF THESE RAPPERS ARE QUEER. THAT GOES FOR WHITE AND BLACK RAPPERS. YEAH THEY LEARN THE SLANG, GRASP A FEW OF THE CONCEPTS, SMOKE A LIL HERB AND PACK A PISTOL (DADS STOLEN .25) BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT THEY ARE WEENIES. WHEN FACED WITH LIFE AND DEATH SITUATIONS THESE FAGGOTS WILL GO FROM HARD CORE KILLERS TO CREAM PUFFS IN LESS THAN 1 SECOND. I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN. HOW MANY OF THEM CAN GO TO ATLANTA, NEW YORK, PHILLY, CHICAGO, DETROIT, LA, OAKLAND, FRISCO, VALLEJO,KC, MIAMI, CAMDEN OR TEXAS AND COME BACK HOME WITHOUT BEING STOMPED OUT? ZERO. THEY CAN'T EVEN WALK OUTSIDE WITHOUT SOMEONE PISTOL WHIPPING THEM.
MOST OF THESE PUNKS (ESPECIALLY RAPPERS ON THIS BOARD) WILL SAY SHIT ON THE SLUNDER. PEEPS LIKE ME WILL SAY SHIT LOUD AND CLEAR. I'VE BEEN ON TV DOING IT, I'VE BEEN ONLINE DOING IT, I'VE BEEN AT SHOWS DOING IT, I'VE BEEN ON SONGS DOING IT, I'VE BEEN IN THE STUDIO DOING IT AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO IT. I DO IT AND *NEVER* GET CHIN CHECKED. YOU BITCHES DO IT AND GET SLAPPED AROUND LIKE FAGGOTS. NIGGA HAS AN 0-99 RECORD WHEN THROWING HANDS, MAKES DIS RAPS BUT GETS STOMPED OUT BY THE OPPOSITION. INCREDIBLE....
THAT HAS HAPPENED TO *YOU*
THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO HERESY.
NEVER
:HGK:
PS AND LET ME SAY THIS. I KNOW HOW EDJ RIDES BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN DOWN WITH HIM FIRSTHAND.
I've noticed something during the past 6 months. The whites, latinos and asians are WILLING to PAY for recording time and services. A LOT of blacks want the "hook up". This is speaking from MY experience. A lot of blacks CAN'T relate to the technical aspect of music recording. Try this experiement: Find a BLACK/AFRICAN AMERICAN rapper or person who claims to rap. Ask that person the following questions:
When was the last time you recorded in the studio?
What type of mic did you use?
Did the engineer compress your vocals? If so were the settings?
What mixing console did you use?
Do you have publishing?
I gurantee that if you ask 10 black rappers these questions 9 of them will give you the DUMBEST look ever and give you the following replies:
"I don't be knowin all dat der shit all I do is rap"
"I'm not knowin all I do is spit"
"I dont know all I do is rap"
"Man I cant tell you all i do is get on the mic"
MAYBE THIS IS DUE TO LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND ACCESS TO COMPUTERS AND BOOKS BUT BLACKS ARE NOT RAISED TO BE OWNERS. BLACKS GEEK OFF THE PUBLISHING LIKE SMOKERS, USUALLY DON'T BUY EQUIPMENT, INVEST IN THE "BLING BLING" IMAGE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT BEING BROKE 3 YEARS LATER. WHEN MOST BLACK MUSICIANS GET AN ADVANCE OR BONUS (WHICH IS RECOUPABLE) THEY SPEND IT ON HOES, CARS, FLASHY RINGS AND ALIZE. HOW MANY OF THEM TAKE THE MONEY AND DO THE FOLLOWING:
INVEST IN RECORDING EQUIPMENT (MORE MONEY FOR THEM WHEN THE ALBUM IS SOLD BECAUSE THEY HAVE REC EXPENSES COVERED)
INVEST IN OTHER MARKETS (THIS WILL HELP WHEN THE ALBUM SALES ARE AT A MINIMUM)
INVEST IN OTHER TALENT AND KEEP THE BLACK DOLLAR FLOWING WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF YOUR WHITE, BLACK, YELLOW, GREEN, HINDU,CHRISTIAN OR ATHIEST. IF YOU HAVE THE CASH AND I VIBE WITH YOU I WILL WORK WITH YOU. AT THE END OF THE DAY ARTIST LIKE MOS DEF, COMMON, THE ROOTS, NAS AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF (WHO DONT RAP BLING BLING) STILL DO IT FOR THE CASH. IF THEY DIDN'T THEY WOULD NOT BE MEMBERS OF ASCAP OR BMI. SIMPLE FACT.
I DO WHAT I DO FOR SEVERAL REASONS AND IM *SERIOUS* WHEN I SAY THIS:
1.TO BRING ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AND THE END OF THE WORLD
2.TO GET $$$$$$$ SO I CAN GET MY PEEPS OUT OF AMERICA AND INTO AFRIKA AND ISRAEL
3.TO GET MONEY TO FINANCE OTHER PROJECTS
4.TO GET PEOPLE TO SHAKE THE 501 (c)3 CHURCH.
AT FIRST I THOUGHT I WAS WRONG FOR THINKING LIKE THIS BUT IM NOT. I SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR MY TIME, TALENT AND SKILLS. IT'S ON ME TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES AND BLESS OTHERS AFTER I HAVE BEEN CASHED OUT. HOWEVER IN DOING SO PEOPLE WILL TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE SO I CHOOSE MY BUSINESS WISELY.
SO WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BLACKS AND WHITES? WELL BLACKS (AND LATINOS) MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THIS BUSINESS YET THEY DON'T OWN 10% OF THE BUSINESS/WEALTH. THE WHITE PEOPLE (THOSE WHO OWN COMPANIES) DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BLACK "PRODUCT" OR BLACK "ORIGINS" EXCEPT IN CASES OF EXPLOITATION FOR MONETARY GAIN. WHO DO YOU SEE USING HIP HOP STARS IN ADS TO ENDORSE PRODUCTS? WHITE OWNED COMPANIES. BURGER KING, PEPSI, GENERAL MOTORS, CARTOON NETWORK, BET THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. WHEN BLACKS DO IT THEY ARE CONSIDRED "TOO BLACK" OR "PRO BLACK".
AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS ABOUT MONEY. ITS NOT ABOUT FLOWS, SKILLS, PRODUCTION OR TALENT. ITS ABOUT WHO CAN BE MARKETED TO THE TARGET AUDIENCE, WHO CAN SLANG THE MOST UNITS AND WHO CAN OVERCOME PIRACY. WHITE RAPPERS WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED POOR WHITE TRASH FOR DOING NIGGER MUSIC. BLACKS WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED NIGGERS FOR RIDING "GHETTO SLEDS" AND MAKING NIGGER MUSIC.
IF YOUR SKIN COLOR/LOOKS/SEXUALITY WILL HELP YOU SLANG UNITS THEY WILL FEED OFF THAT. IT'S THE WAY THE GAME IS PLAYED AND I DIDNT MAKE THOSE RULES.
IF YOU DONT LIKE THOSE RULES DONT PLAY THE GAME. DONT BUY MUSIC (I HAVENT PURCHASED AN ALBUM SINCE DJ QUIK SAFE AND SOUND), DOWNLOAD ALL THE MUSIC YOU CAN AND SIP LEMONADE. IT'S A SIMPLE PROCESS THAT EVEN THE DUMBEST OF YOU CAN COMPREHEND. STOP BEING USELESS EATERS/CONSUMERS.
THE AVERAGE "THUG" RAPPER IS SIMPLY A MODIFIED VERSION OF THE "BRUTE NEGRO" OR "BRUTE NIGGER". I ENCOURAGE YOU (LIKE IT WILL DO ANY GOOD) TO HIT THE JIM CROW WEBSITE (HIT GOOGLE AND TYPE JIM CROW MUSEUM)
HAVE WHITE PEOPLE "STOLE" BLACK MUSIC? YEP. BLACK ALBUMS WERE CUT ONLY TO HAVE WHITE FACES PASTED ON THE ALBUM COVERS OR TO HAVE WHITE PEOPLE LIP SYNC THE MUSIC IN PERFORMENCES. THATS A *FACT* THAT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.
THE MAJORITY OF THESE RAPPERS ARE QUEER. THAT GOES FOR WHITE AND BLACK RAPPERS. YEAH THEY LEARN THE SLANG, GRASP A FEW OF THE CONCEPTS, SMOKE A LIL HERB AND PACK A PISTOL (DADS STOLEN .25) BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT THEY ARE WEENIES. WHEN FACED WITH LIFE AND DEATH SITUATIONS THESE FAGGOTS WILL GO FROM HARD CORE KILLERS TO CREAM PUFFS IN LESS THAN 1 SECOND. I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN. HOW MANY OF THEM CAN GO TO ATLANTA, NEW YORK, PHILLY, CHICAGO, DETROIT, LA, OAKLAND, FRISCO, VALLEJO,KC, MIAMI, CAMDEN OR TEXAS AND COME BACK HOME WITHOUT BEING STOMPED OUT? ZERO. THEY CAN'T EVEN WALK OUTSIDE WITHOUT SOMEONE PISTOL WHIPPING THEM.
MOST OF THESE PUNKS (ESPECIALLY RAPPERS ON THIS BOARD) WILL SAY SHIT ON THE SLUNDER. PEEPS LIKE ME WILL SAY SHIT LOUD AND CLEAR. I'VE BEEN ON TV DOING IT, I'VE BEEN ONLINE DOING IT, I'VE BEEN AT SHOWS DOING IT, I'VE BEEN ON SONGS DOING IT, I'VE BEEN IN THE STUDIO DOING IT AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO IT. I DO IT AND *NEVER* GET CHIN CHECKED. YOU BITCHES DO IT AND GET SLAPPED AROUND LIKE FAGGOTS. NIGGA HAS AN 0-99 RECORD WHEN THROWING HANDS, MAKES DIS RAPS BUT GETS STOMPED OUT BY THE OPPOSITION. INCREDIBLE....
THAT HAS HAPPENED TO *YOU*
THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO HERESY.
NEVER
:HGK:
PS AND LET ME SAY THIS. I KNOW HOW EDJ RIDES BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN DOWN WITH HIM FIRSTHAND.
Heresy, without asking you to type a thesis on the topic, which I'm sure you already have somewhere else, could you drop some info on 501c3 or link to a post? I'm in the dark about the shit.
Also, destruction of America and World, as in aiding the apocalypse? For what purpose, a speedy trip to heaven, or what?
Also, destruction of America and World, as in aiding the apocalypse? For what purpose, a speedy trip to heaven, or what?
fuck all this shit... who is to say that only blacks can do it? because they invented it... who fucking cares... they also invented rock, blues, and jazz, yet they don't complain when they see white boys in blues, rock, or jazz bands.
music is colorblind..... if i want to hear racism, i will not look for it in MY music.
music is colorblind..... if i want to hear racism, i will not look for it in MY music.
Yea, I hear where that's coming from.
But Black racism also exists against Asian Americans, Latinos, etc. This may be harmless and all in a joking manner, but eventually Black people will get the backlash of their actions in this regard.
Out of all the races in America, often times Black people tend to be the most outwardly racist, because they are insulated against the stigma of a racist by being Black. And people see this, and though the tables are not even, it does have a bad effect on Black racial relations.
But Black racism also exists against Asian Americans, Latinos, etc. This may be harmless and all in a joking manner, but eventually Black people will get the backlash of their actions in this regard.
Out of all the races in America, often times Black people tend to be the most outwardly racist, because they are insulated against the stigma of a racist by being Black. And people see this, and though the tables are not even, it does have a bad effect on Black racial relations.
First of all I would like to say that HERESY, that is one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this message board. Aside from the destruction of American and a few other thorns such as white people stealing rap, I agree on almost every single point.
Blacks say blacks can do it, didn't you know that? Black racist people will continue to be racist until they figure out they are creating racial motivation in a white mind. In this process they are making the tables far less leveled then they were to begin with, furthering the vicious cycle that lead them to believe black racism is ok in the first place.
Maybe white people should have never let blacks participate in professional sports, then these crazy white people might not have this idea of trying to involve themselves in a part of the African American culture. Maybe white people were wrong by eventually accepting African Americans as an equal in the sporting world and providing them opportunity to excell further than any other African American has before (financial wise). While we were wrong in doing this, black people were certainly not wrong for their continuing struggle to deny white people opportunity in something they have created. Do you find it hard to be a hypocrite, or does it come naturally?
The tables ain't even for who? White vs. Black? Sure. What about Me vs. You? It is the rich white people in American that unevened the tables in the first place, not people like me. So while you justify racial slurs used by black people on behalf of the rich white man, I'm sittin here watching you treat white people as if they were the record label owners, as if they were spraying blacks down with a hose in the middle of the streets, as if they were aiding the black struggle. I don't get a fucking thing from any upper-class white man in this entire nation, so fuck this unevened table. You don't say honkey, I don't say nigga. Is it that fucking hard? If a black man wants to call me a Honkey to my face I will see to it that he forgets that word. Same goes for a Latino/Mexican, Asian, Indian, and what have you.
Blacks say blacks can do it, didn't you know that? Black racist people will continue to be racist until they figure out they are creating racial motivation in a white mind. In this process they are making the tables far less leveled then they were to begin with, furthering the vicious cycle that lead them to believe black racism is ok in the first place.
Maybe white people should have never let blacks participate in professional sports, then these crazy white people might not have this idea of trying to involve themselves in a part of the African American culture. Maybe white people were wrong by eventually accepting African Americans as an equal in the sporting world and providing them opportunity to excell further than any other African American has before (financial wise). While we were wrong in doing this, black people were certainly not wrong for their continuing struggle to deny white people opportunity in something they have created. Do you find it hard to be a hypocrite, or does it come naturally?
The tables ain't even for who? White vs. Black? Sure. What about Me vs. You? It is the rich white people in American that unevened the tables in the first place, not people like me. So while you justify racial slurs used by black people on behalf of the rich white man, I'm sittin here watching you treat white people as if they were the record label owners, as if they were spraying blacks down with a hose in the middle of the streets, as if they were aiding the black struggle. I don't get a fucking thing from any upper-class white man in this entire nation, so fuck this unevened table. You don't say honkey, I don't say nigga. Is it that fucking hard? If a black man wants to call me a Honkey to my face I will see to it that he forgets that word. Same goes for a Latino/Mexican, Asian, Indian, and what have you.