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HERESY

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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
How is this any different than what blacks who participated in the Million Man March did?
Being "white" or having white skin seems to be the prerequisite of attending this function. I think the majority of people networking and funding this event are white males. Funding for the million man march came from Rev.Moon, blacks and whites (as quiet as it's kept).

What is your purpose??????????
 
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HERESY said:
Being "white" or having white skin seems to be the prerequisite of attending this function. I think the majority of people networking and funding this event are white males. Funding for the million man march came from Rev.Moon, blacks and whites (as quiet as it's kept).
Being "white" as a prerequisite is nothing wrong. they can exclude people if they want. it's a private function. And I don't see what the funding of the million man march [which i don't see the relevancy of] is supposed to make me understand. Moon is a lunatic, most if not all the blacks who participated are members of an exclusive and segregated party, and the whites who gave money are the devil cuz all white people are evil.
HERESY said:
What is your purpose??????????
At the moment to make people think and fill in the conservative void that is currently lacking on the siccness, whether or not i agree with the 'right.'
 
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EDJ said:
MEXICANCOMMANDO,

YOU STRESSED, "The Million Man march was orchestrated by the Nation of Islam."

YES, WE KNOW THIS.
WE know this. Other's might not.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "They are huge racist."

BULLSHIT. SAYS WHO? THE ORDINARY WHITE PERSON THAT NEVA HEARD A BLAKMAN SPEAK LIKE THAT BEFORE?
Well they belive that white people are devils created by a white scientist and that blacks, collectively, are God. They are anti-semetic. They shunned the changes made by Wallace D. Muhammad, one such change would have included whites into the NOI, and the fact that they believe Christianity to be a tool of the white man to make blacks slaves.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I don't even think you can join unless you're black and because you can't join unless you're black Allah will have no mercy for us infedels."

TWO THANgS,

#51)
HAVE YOU EVA READ N-E OF THEIR PUBLICATIONS TO KNOW WHO IS INVOLVED? HAVE THEY SAID N-E-THANg RACIST AgAINST N-E MEXICAN MAN AND N-E OTHA ASIATIC PEOPLE DESCENDANT?

#X)
WHY IN THE FUK IS YOU INCLUDIN' YOURSELF WITH THESE WHITE PEOPLE? DO YOU WANNA BE WHITE OR SAMETHIN'?
#51) I've read the Final Call and books on their teachings when i was studying Islam.
#X) Did I say I did? Why do you assume? This of course is not looking at the fact that you having black and (i believe) mexican blood and have a high chance of being white yourself. If your african or Native American ancestors weren't raped by the White man then you can count yourself lucky. But I do believe you've acknowledge that you're not African.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You may not agree with their gathering, I don't, but aside from bitching it would be wrong to stop them from gathering, it's their constitutional right and if we take that from white men what's stopping them from taking from more shit back from us?"

YOU SOUND LIKE YOU FULL OF FRIgHT. THEY DONE TOOK ENOUgH. TO BLASPHEMOUSLY CELEBRATE AND CONDONE THAT BEHAVIOR IS SOME BULL ASS SHIT. I BET YOU IF IT WAS SOME SURENOS THROWIN' THAT FUNCTION YOU WOULDN'T HESITATE TO gO RIDE ON THEM. NOW ASK YOURSELF, WHO'S REALLY THE ENEMY?
What am I afraid of? Yes it's bullshit they are celebrating things I don't think they should but it is their constitutional right. I don't see you taking ANY action to stop them. So from where I am standing you are just as full of fright as I am. You aren't emailing any one and you aren't actively protesting their meeting. The enemy is any one who hates/opposes what I stand for. I agree White Supremecist are the enemy but I can do very little to stop thousands of skin heads most of whom are too pussy to show their White Pride when they aren't in huge groups.

A few questions:
What do you think about Malcom leaving the Nation? Did he lose his sight? Did he become blind to the truth? Or did he begin to see that whites as a whole cannot be held accountable for what other whites may or may not have done?
 
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NOI - straight out racists. I could really give a fuck, though. If anyone has reason to be racist, it's blacks against whites, however the non-efficaciousness of that position is obvious to me.

NOI is even racist to mulatto people since they're half-white. My homeboy who was mixed used to work at a suit store that was frequented often by Black Muslims. He said they treated him even worse than white employees.

Farakkhan is the very moderate voice of NOI; inside the actual party you will see and hear much harsher rhetoric, including science fiction stories about white devils, a view that black people are basically the purest and holiest creatures on earth, and other assorted foolishness.

It is their absolute right to hold these views, whether or not anyone else agrees with them. Their beliefs are well known and documented. As of late the party has been more expansive, dropping, as many religions do, the more unpopular tenets of their faith...yet the residual remains.

We all remember the links I posted about Mormons and racism. These views, like the Mormon view on polygamy, are tending to become less harsh and more suited for mass consumption as the party attempts to reach out also to other minorities. They will never accept white people, that much is certain, (though honestly I could give a fuck less) but among the party you will always find the inherent racism that it started with.
 

EDJ

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FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND THE NATION OF ISLAM, CAUSE I DON'T gO BY THAT FAITH AND AS SOME OF YOU HAVE POINTED THEIR INCONSISTENCIES THAT I AM WELL AWARE OF.

XNDLY,
YAW DOWNPLAYIN' THE MESSAgE CAUSE OF THE MESSENgER AND MISCONTRUEIN', ASSOCIATIN', AND COMPARIN' IT TO SOME IgNORANT HIKS WHOSE RACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE OPPRESSOR.

WITH THAT BEIN' SAID,

MEXICAN COMMANDO,

YOU STRESSED, "WE know this. Other's might not."

LOL. DAMN, I THOUgHT WHITE PEOPLE WERE CLUELESS TO SOME POINT, BUT gIVE THEM A LIL' CREDIT.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well they belive that white people are devils created by a white scientist and that blacks, collectively, are God. They are anti-semetic. They shunned the changes made by Wallace D. Muhammad, one such change would have included whites into the NOI, and the fact that they believe Christianity to be a tool of the white man to make blacks slaves."

ACTUALLY THE SCIENTIST WAS BLAK. BUT CHRISTIANITY WAS USED HISTORICALLY TO TAME OTHAS, SO I CAN SEE WHERE THEY gET THOSE FACTS. THOSE BELIEFS ARE REACTIONS OF THE TIMES, TO MAKE A BLAK MAN JUMP OUT THE BOX AND LOOK AT SELF. BUT THE MILLION MAN MARCH WAS NOT A NOI FUNCTION TO IMPOSE THOSE BELIEFS BUT A FUNCTION TO BRINg TOgETHA UNITY. LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHIN'. DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW SOMEBODY THAT HAS JOINED THE NOI, OR HAVE YOU SAT DOWN WITH ONE AND LET THEM EXPLAIN IN DETAIL THEY BELIEFS AND WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT YOU?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "#51) I've read the Final Call and books on their teachings when i was studying Islam."

THAT'S gOOD. BUT IF YOU WAS STUDYIN' ISLAM, I HOPE YOU DIDN'T BASE YOUR PERCEPTION OF ISLAM ON THE NOI CAUSE THAT'S A BRANCH OF IT AND NOT REAL ISLAM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "#X) Did I say I did? Why do you assume?"

I DIDN'T ASSUME SHIT. YOU STRESSED, "US INFEDELS". WHEN YOU SAID "US", YOU INCLUDED YOURSELF IN THE BUNCH, WITHOUT KNOWIN' WHO THE NOI CONSIDERS INFIDEL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "This of course is not looking at the fact that you having black and (i believe) mexican blood and have a high chance of being white yourself."

BEIN' WHITE MYSELF? LOL. LIKE I SAID IN ONE OF MY SONgS "AIN'T NO PEKA-WOOD HERE". SO YOU SAYIN' YOU WHITE? I MIgHT BE LIgHT, BUT I AIN'T WHITE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If your african or Native American ancestors weren't raped by the White man then you can count yourself lucky. But I do believe you've acknowledge that you're not African."

YES, MEANIN' I'M NOT DIRECTLY FROM AFRICA.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What am I afraid of?"

I DON'T KNOW, YOU TELL ME.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes it's bullshit they are celebrating things I don't think they should but it is their constitutional right."

AND IT'S THEIR CONTITUTIONAL RIgHT TO MAKE FUN OF US?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I don't see you taking ANY action to stop them."

HOW YOU KNOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So from where I am standing you are just as full of fright as I am."

HOW'S THAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You aren't emailing any one and you aren't actively protesting their meeting."

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "The enemy is any one who hates/opposes what I stand for."

THAT'S THE THANg, WHAT DO YOU STAND FOR?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I agree White Supremecist are the enemy but I can do very little to stop thousands of skin heads most of whom are too pussy to show their White Pride when they aren't in huge groups."

DON'T SELL YOURSELF SHORT PLAYA. YOU RIgHT THERE. WOULD IT BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ROUND UP ALL THE NORTENOS AND CRUISE THRU THAT SHIT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What do you think about Malcom leaving the Nation?"

IT WAS A gOOD MOVE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Did he lose his sight?"

ON THE CONTRARY, I BELIEVE HE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND HIS EYES WERE OPENED WIDE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Did he become blind to the truth?"

NOPE, HIS JOURNEY TO MECCA SHOWED HIM THE TRUTH, AND SEEN THE gAME BEIN' RAN FROM THE NOI.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Or did he begin to see that whites as a whole cannot be held accountable for what other whites may or may not have done?"

THAT, AND THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE SKIN.
 
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EDJ said:
MEXICAN COMMANDO,

YOU STRESSED, "WE know this. Other's might not."

LOL. DAMN, I THOUgHT WHITE PEOPLE WERE CLUELESS TO SOME POINT, BUT gIVE THEM A LIL' CREDIT.
Well not just white people but even blacks. White Devil though does have a lot of knowledge on a wide variety of topics.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well they belive that white people are devils created by a white scientist and that blacks, collectively, are God. They are anti-semetic. They shunned the changes made by Wallace D. Muhammad, one such change would have included whites into the NOI, and the fact that they believe Christianity to be a tool of the white man to make blacks slaves."

ACTUALLY THE SCIENTIST WAS BLAK. BUT CHRISTIANITY WAS USED HISTORICALLY TO TAME OTHAS, SO I CAN SEE WHERE THEY gET THOSE FACTS. THOSE BELIEFS ARE REACTIONS OF THE TIMES, TO MAKE A BLAK MAN JUMP OUT THE BOX AND LOOK AT SELF. BUT THE MILLION MAN MARCH WAS NOT A NOI FUNCTION TO IMPOSE THOSE BELIEFS BUT A FUNCTION TO BRINg TOgETHA UNITY. LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHIN'. DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW SOMEBODY THAT HAS JOINED THE NOI, OR HAVE YOU SAT DOWN WITH ONE AND LET THEM EXPLAIN IN DETAIL THEY BELIEFS AND WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT YOU?
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Ooops! I know he was black. I don't even know why i wrote white as it would be illogical for a white man to create a white race. I'm not sure if he ever did join the NOI but yes I did know a person who believed himself to be a "Black Muslim." He was pretty into finding himself historically, and very knowledgable in Arabic. He did say shit about whites as a whole but I never did have a chance to speak religion with him. Very few people are willing to speak religion.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "#51) I've read the Final Call and books on their teachings when i was studying Islam."

THAT'S gOOD. BUT IF YOU WAS STUDYIN' ISLAM, I HOPE YOU DIDN'T BASE YOUR PERCEPTION OF ISLAM ON THE NOI CAUSE THAT'S A BRANCH OF IT AND NOT REAL ISLAM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "#X) Did I say I did? Why do you assume?"

I DIDN'T ASSUME SHIT. YOU STRESSED, "US INFEDELS". WHEN YOU SAID "US", YOU INCLUDED YOURSELF IN THE BUNCH, WITHOUT KNOWIN' WHO THE NOI CONSIDERS INFIDEL.
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1)I read the Koran. I don't know Arabic so I couldn't read it as it should be read, but the edition I read had 3 professors give their english interpretations of the koran side by side by side. Most matched evenly.
2) I said 'us infidels.' As i can't join the NOI because I am not black I am an indifel. Becuase I am a Christian I am an infidel. Because I don't believe and reject their teachings I am an infidel. I did not bring up white people in that sentence only infidels aka non-believers. So i guess I might have untintentionally and indirectly included myself in with whites but I did not mean to and it hardly qualifies as some sort of want on my part to want to be white.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "This of course is not looking at the fact that you having black and (i believe) mexican blood and have a high chance of being white yourself."

BEIN' WHITE MYSELF? LOL. LIKE I SAID IN ONE OF MY SONgS "AIN'T NO PEKA-WOOD HERE". SO YOU SAYIN' YOU WHITE? I MIgHT BE LIgHT, BUT I AIN'T WHITE.
Africans were raped by Europeans. Many modern day blacks have white lineage in them. If they didn't they would look alot more like real Africans. The fact is they don't. Native Americans were raped by Europeans and by their black slaves. That is why you have Cubans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, and even Mexicans who are darker than they should be. This doesn't mean all blacks, whites, (insert ethnicity) are rapist but the truth is if you're african or a native of this continent you have a high chance of being part white. I never said I was white. But there is a chance I may actually have some white in me. Doubtful as I have very indigenous features, but there is that chance.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "If your african or Native American ancestors weren't raped by the White man then you can count yourself lucky. But I do believe you've acknowledge that you're not African."

YES, MEANIN' I'M NOT DIRECTLY FROM AFRICA.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What am I afraid of?"

I DON'T KNOW, YOU TELL ME.
1. You're not. You're right.
2. Not skinheads.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes it's bullshit they are celebrating things I don't think they should but it is their constitutional right."

AND IT'S THEIR CONTITUTIONAL RIgHT TO MAKE FUN OF US?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I don't see you taking ANY action to stop them."

HOW YOU KNOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So from where I am standing you are just as full of fright as I am."

HOW'S THAT?
1) It's their constitutional right to say what they want. If making fun of us is part of their voice then yes they can. I don't see any one stoping black comedians, athletes, actors, and even normal black people from making fun of whites. Why? Because they have that right.
2)I didn't say I knew if or if you weren't taking action. I said I don't "see" you doing anything.
3) You said I sounded as if i were full of fright. I said I'm not. If I have no fear and your fear is equal to mine then you have none.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "The enemy is any one who hates/opposes what I stand for."

THAT'S THE THANg, WHAT DO YOU STAND FOR?
It would be too long to write and I could go on forever, but in short, any one to prevents me from living as an equal.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I agree White Supremecist are the enemy but I can do very little to stop thousands of skin heads most of whom are too pussy to show their White Pride when they aren't in huge groups."

DON'T SELL YOURSELF SHORT PLAYA. YOU RIgHT THERE. WOULD IT BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ROUND UP ALL THE NORTENOS AND CRUISE THRU THAT SHIT?
without exposing too much: there is too much termoil between sets. But I do hope that if any of those skinheads starts shit and is caught off guard they will get handled by Sac's finest. Either the crips, bloods, or the homeboys.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "What do you think about Malcom leaving the Nation?"

IT WAS A gOOD MOVE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Did he lose his sight?"

ON THE CONTRARY, I BELIEVE HE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND HIS EYES WERE OPENED WIDE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Did he become blind to the truth?"

NOPE, HIS JOURNEY TO MECCA SHOWED HIM THE TRUTH, AND SEEN THE gAME BEIN' RAN FROM THE NOI.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Or did he begin to see that whites as a whole cannot be held accountable for what other whites may or may not have done?"

THAT, AND THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE SKIN.
One thing I've always liked about NOI Malcolm is that he took the ange he had and used it because he knew that anger is powerful. Fear doesn't do shit and that's why in the US we're still niggers and spicks. Because we're still afraid to stnad up for ourselves. What I loved about El-Hajj Malik al-Shabazz is that he didn't forget to fight but he learned who his enemy really was:

The "white man" is not a devil--he's not that powerful--and even your brother will do you wrong. However, "Negroes" are afraid of revolution. Slaves and the slavery-scarred are extremely conservative, overly cautious. They're afraid of rattling the cage and finding that the bars are loose and freedom--and responsibility--is possible and close. And we fear the idea of having to physically confront and defeat what appears to be "the greatest nation on earth"
 
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blackboy!!! brown boy!!! uh oh i said it..someones gonna beat me up..lmao..fuck a racist white dude fuck a racist black dude fuck a racist mexican dude fuck a racist indian dude fuck a racist vietneamese dude fuck a racist filipino dude fuck a racist arabian dude fuck a racist puerto rican dude fuck a racist cuban dude fuck a racist columbian dude fuck a racist canadian dude fuck a racist half donkey half arabian camel dude ...i think u get my point
 
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SHEA said:
seems like most of you cats are in the same boat as the white racists-
most of you are racists yourself.
so fuck it- why should I feel bad for something I didnt do- "have slaves"
& why should I feel bad for you for something that you have never done "picked cotton"


lame lame lame.


you muh fuckers make me wanna be violent.


SS
SHEA, if we make you wanna be violent imagine how people like me and EDJ feel with racism from whites. When it comes down to it, we got a lot more reason to be pissed off at the world. I'm already sick & tired of these fuckin animals.
 
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shea dont even bother tryna explain..these cats only see it one way..."we are oppressed and you are the one oppressing us" thats all..and the internet is just the perfect platform to WHAA WHAA WHAA all day about it....ive tried to explain why im not the one to aim the hatred toward..but hey they dont wanna hear it thats cool..let them hate me..i got enuff friends anyways!!! hahaha
 
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SHEA said:
Rick-

Be sick of it- you got every right.
But you only have every right to feel sick towards the ones who do you wrong, or are racist to you-
for myself- I got black family, & mexican family- hell, I was picking lettuce, cherries, apricots & everything with the mexican & vietnamese folks since I was 8 so we could make ends meet.
I see the struggle...therefore, I am not part of the whole that is prejudice towards you or anyone else, & I am white,....so how can you group an entire color of skin together & be anit- them?

I can't speak for others, but I never said I hate or am against all whites. Like I told you, I got a lot of love for some of them. I am against whites who are racist, rich or who contribute in any way to keeping us down.

That puts you in the same boat as the KKK that groups all other races & hates them cause of thier color- & you & I both know that isnt right.
not all people that are white are racists....my mom marched with Dr. Martin Luther king for civil rights in the south during the late 60's- so you cant tell me that we are all grouped together.....hate racists, hate biggots, hate your oppressors,...but dont hate everyone that is white, because a lot of us arent living high on the horse, looking for the next way to put other ethinic groups in harms way, or look to hold you down.


SS

It isn't right, and I don't do it. Sometimes I get hella pissed and I might say some shit about the whole white race, but I later regret it realizing that not all whites are the enemy.
 
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SHEA said:
the double standards are what is rediculous.
they can call me "whiteboy"...( over the internet of course, to my face, cats get all cotton candy on the topic )...but the second a white cat drops a racial remark, "its on".....

You can go ahead and call me brown boy. I won't take it personally. And in person I ain't like cotton candy. And if a white person drops some racist shit, it is on.

my only thought is that these fools dont want to be equal, they'd rather cry & not try to except those who are part of the life struggle regardless of ethinic backgrounds.

I don't want to be "equal." I want to overthrow the government and send them, the rich white folks, and the racists back to Europe.


I've said it before, the only color is grren, & the battle is between the lower & the higher classes.
Not between races.

No true homie. They even teach you this in college. Class is 1 form of the struggle. Race is another part. As you may know, Italians and Irishmen used to be the minorities here. However, they have completely blended into American society. This will NEVER happen with Mexicans, blacks, the indigenous, Indians, Arabs or Asians, because race will always be evident. Even if we lose the accent, we're still a different people.

One of EDJ's posts had a link to a site that talks about the difference between lower class minorities and lower class whites. It says that among the lower class, whites are still more likely to get more government benefits, better jobs, etc., than minorities. Here is one example of this.

On my block, across the street, there is a white family that lives there. I feel bad for the kids cuz their mom's a fuckin bitch. They had it worse than I did; I never had a momz, but after seeing his mom I was glad. Here's the point; they don't work or do anything to help themselves out, and the government provides them with welfare, social security and unemployment benefits. They're not employed and they recently had 2 brand new cars and another older car that ran good. (and they don't sell drugs)

Another family that lives down the street is Mexican. It was a dad, mom, 3 sons, and not sure if more. The dad worked, the mom went to school, the middle kid played sports and did shit for church, and they didn't have 1 car to the whole family. If you think there's no difference, there still is. Read EDJ's link...it was written by a white man.


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I am not interested in the "melting pot." Before Europeans came, there was no class struggle how there is today. Everybody had food to eat and a place to live, regardless of how poor they were. This is the part I don't believe many people understand. I, as well as many other indigenous, blacks, etc., want no part in this form of government & economy...we never have. So when you say there is a class struggle, that is very true, but it is a European class struggle that we want no part in.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind having whites living here if we ever did kick out the government. In Europe during the 1500's the distribution of wealth was similar to here, where the top 2% owned the majority of the money & land. I would have no problem allowing those lower classes a chance at a new life.

I want a future where everybody has food, shelter, and clothing to begin with. I don't think anybody should starve when there is so much food in the world. My ideas might be considered stupid to some, but understand that this is how it was prior to 1492. I just want to take it back to the past.