Where Did God Come From?

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Come again?
I would have to believe in 'god' to say 'he' isn't eternal. 'god' is an invention just like santa clause and the easter bunny. it's all an illusion, so how can any of that be eternal?

And practice what you preach there little buddy, you god and religion followers are caught up in the material world if anything. Open your eyes to the lies, stop being blinded. I'd hate to have you walking around confused. Atheists accept there is no life after death, no heaven or hell, no god or religions, only one chance at life. Stop living in a fairy tale world, thinking somebody is listening to you when you 'pray'. I hope you find the truth one day, my friend.
So you mean God is an invention like the idea that we evolved from primates????

Sorry bro, my eyes have been open.
That's how I found God in the first place.
My eyes were closed for a long ass time, that's when I used to be an atheist.
I beleived the bullshit lies of people.
They feed people shit in a bowl and people eat it with out question. I don't eat what they feed me anymore....

You wanna talk about a fairy tale world?
How about the world you are living in today?
Everything is an illusion being projected by the elite.
Everything you know, comes from them.
And they are up to no damn good. These ideas they gave you and everyone else have you in a choke hold.
I took the red pill about a year ago, and I'm glad I did.
You can go back to never never land for all I care.
At least I know I am not being controlled by "them" anymore....
 
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Puh LEASE that was weak I would have expected more. Your logical facilities Obviously make you aware of the fallacious notion of an immaculate conception.

neither his REAL name Age or D/O/B are there and YOU know that. come on now :)
 

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STOP ASKING ME QUESTIONS.

Puh LEASE that was weak I would have expected more. Your logical facilities Obviously make you aware of the fallacious notion of an immaculate conception.
see this is why i dont like answering things you ask of me. READ the bible man.

first of all i SERIOUSLY doubt that you know what immaculate conception is. WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME SOMETHING THATS MAINLY A ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE??????when you say "immaculate conception" what are you talking about?

a.jesus being born without a human father?

b.mary being conceived with the holy spirit?

c.mary being sinless?
neither his REAL name
read the bible man. his real name IS in the bible. are you familiar with HEBREW names? are you familiar with jewish culture and traditions? do you think he had a name like yeshua steinberg? or yaoshua goldstein? DO YOU THINK HIS NAME WAS "JESUS CHRIST"?????????? PLEASE READ A BIBLE AND STUDY HEBREW CULTURE. LEARN WHAT THEY USED FOR NAMES, ***WHY*** THEY KEPT CERTAIN NAMES IN THE FAMILY,WHAT THEY USED FOR ***LAST NAMES*** AND HOW THOSE LAST NAMES TRANSLATE ***TODAY*** STUDY HIS LINEAGE. STUDY ***WHO*** WAS IN ***POWER*** IN HIS TIME LINE. PEOPLE LIKE CAIPHAS,HEROD,PILATE,CEASER ETC ETC ETC.

WAS HE BORN ON DECEMBER 25????? IF SO LOL!!!! RESEARCH HEBREW CUSTOMS AND SHEEP HERDING. YES SHEEP HERDING. ASTRONOMY WOULDNT HURT ALSO. SEE THE ABOVE.

GET A VULGATE OR SEPTUIGANT,GREEK LEXICON AND STRONGS CONCORDENCE. FIND THE NEAREST TEXTUS MAJOR AND READ.

****DONT*** come back asking me this and that. or saying this is this or that isnt that when its OBVIOUS that YOU dont know what YOU are talking about. dont think so? i wont list past examples of you saying things that i have completely blown out the water....yes i will.....from the "coptic" thingy (lol@that one) to jesus being hung on a tree (i had to show you the greek and hebrew words and explain it to you)....see i get TIRED of answering you because you want to debate. i dont wanna debate. i told you to read a bible. please do so.

YOUR answer about immaculate conception will PROVE without a shadow of a doubt that you

a.DONT study and read like you should

b.form biased opinions before you look into material

c.BRING UP TOPICS AND IDEAS THAT HAVE ***NOTHING*** TO DO WITH ***THIS*** THREAD.


SO WHICH IS IT? IMMACULATE CONCEPTION IS WHAT?

a.jesus being born without a human father?

b.mary being conceived with the holy spirit?

c.mary being sinless?


CHOOSE WISELY........



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OOOOOOOOOOOK

Define for me what is this holy spirit. is it a PERSON, is it a being? does it have form? HMMMM. we all know that in order to produce human offspring SPERM must be manifest in the conception process. is the holy spirit sperm, is it a man with a penis???

Please do not give me the ludicrous notion that a spook spit up in her. spooks dont make babies PEOPLE do.

when was emanuel and yashua or JESUS the same name don't be silly those are THREE different names. this is irrefutable. (not to mention the different name of jesus in the Qu'ran)

you harp on one thing that is STILL debatable @ coptic. your proof is is just as speculative as mine your scholars THEORIZE just as mine LOL. but to say script that came from aramaic people was originally written in greek or septuigant is utter stupidity.
Thats as dumb as saying that Me an english speaking person with writting my thoughts to my english speaking peers in japanese, nigga please.

guess what. You STILL havent answered my question. you still havent given me a DOB you still havent given me an AGE :)

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youre dancing around the question like a bible study teacher. YOU still haven't answered it. :)
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It seems youre having problems answering my question. It would not be so hard for me to answer yours. *smile*

you amuse me again of what you think I know and don't know. By now you should know much better. must I remind you of the 5 days it took you to refute my post about Nephillim etc. . . remember as I've told you before I say certain things to you on purpose for the express reason of humbling your arrogance.

less data more concision
 
I don't know if this will help or hurt cuzz I don't know if this site is truthful or full of shit...It's really long, but waaaaay at the end (the very very end) it claims that they tested some blood stain that was 'supposed' to have come from Jesus. It then gives an explanation of the lack of the necessary number of y-chromosomes (come from a person's father) they found when they examined it. Like I said, I don't know how true it is, I wasn't there. But it makes for an interesting read...

http://www.bibleplus.com/discoveries/arkintro.htm
 
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XianeX said:
OOOOOOOOOOOK

Define for me what is this holy spirit. is it a PERSON, is it a being? does it have form? HMMMM. we all know that in order to produce human offspring SPERM must be manifest in the conception process. is the holy spirit sperm, is it a man with a penis???

Please do not give me the ludicrous notion that a spook spit up in her. spooks dont make babies PEOPLE do.
Read the bible to get a better understanding.
The Holy Spirit keeps the material world in order.
Therefore he can manipulate it in anyway that he wishes.

XianeX said:

when was emanuel and yashua or JESUS the same name don't be silly those are THREE different names. this is irrefutable. (not to mention the different name of jesus in the Qu'ran)
You're a victim of your own educational deprivation. Not only do you need to pick up the bible but you need to study foreign languages.
I am not trying to knock on your hustle, I'm just being honest.
Your questions are symptoms of the lack of knowledge.
Do some quick research and you'll find the answer to your own questions. Yeshua, Jesus, and Issa are the same names....

XianeX said:

you harp on one thing that is STILL debatable @ coptic. your proof is is just as speculative as mine your scholars THEORIZE just as mine LOL. but to say script that came from aramaic people was originally written in greek or septuigant is utter stupidity.
Thats as dumb as saying that Me an english speaking person with writting my thoughts to my english speaking peers in japanese, nigga please.

guess what. You STILL havent answered my question. you still havent given me a DOB you still havent given me an AGE :)

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youre dancing around the question like a bible study teacher. YOU still haven't answered it. :)
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It seems youre having problems answering my question. It would not be so hard for me to answer yours. *smile*

you amuse me again of what you think I know and don't know. By now you should know much better. must I remind you of the 5 days it took you to refute my post about Nephillim etc. . . remember as I've told you before I say certain things to you on purpose for the express reason of humbling your arrogance.

less data more concision
You want to know Jesus's date of birth?
Heresy just answered that for you. We get an idea of the time he existed by connecting many of the characters written about in the New Testament with actual history and archeology.
Again, this is a simple answer to a simple question.
A question that you would've easily found an answer to if you had any knowledge on the subject.
These are biblical kindergarten questions that you are asking.
Is there anything else you want to learn about????

PS....
Dec. 25th is just Jesus's "official" birthday.
Not his "technical" birthdate....
 

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO DOUGH ZERO!!!!!!!!

Define for me what is this holy spirit. is it a PERSON, is it a being? does it have form? HMMMM. we all know that in order to produce human offspring SPERM must be manifest in the conception process. is the holy spirit sperm, is it a man with a penis???
LOL!!!!! YOU'LL SEE WHY IM LAUGING AT THE END OF THIS POST. JUST KEEP READING. REMEMBER *YOU* SAID THE ABOVE.
Please do not give me the ludicrous notion that a spook spit up in her. spooks dont make babies PEOPLE do.
SEE MY ABOVE REPLY.
when was emanuel and yashua or JESUS the same name don't be silly those are THREE different names. this is irrefutable. (not to mention the different name of jesus in the Qu'ran)
JESUS IS TRANSLATED FROM WHAT LANGUAGE? YESHUA IS A DIRECT NAME FROM WHAT LANGUAGE? EMANUEL IS WHAT? A "NAME" THAT HE WOULD BE CALLED "PERSONALLY" OR A NAME THAT DESCRIBES *WHAT* HE WOULD BE CALLED? YOU ALSO MENTION THE QU'RAN. NOAH HAS A DIFFERENT NAME IN THE QURAN. MARY HAS A DIFFERENT NAME IN THE QU'RAN. WHATS YOUR POINT?
you harp on one thing that is STILL debatable @ coptic. your proof is is just as speculative as mine your scholars THEORIZE just as mine LOL. but to say script that came from aramaic people was originally written in greek or septuigant is utter stupidity.
HERES WHATS UTTERLY STUPID. THE FACT THAT *YOU* DONT REALIZE *WHERE* THE "COPTIC" LANGUAGE CAME FROM. ITS THE EGYPTIAN LANGUAGE IN *GREEK* WITH MORE LETTERS (APPRX 8). HERES A WORD FOR YOU BUDDY. DEMOTIC. YOU *NEVER* GAVE *ANY* PROOF TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM. YOU ARE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE COPTIC IS WHAT THE EGYPTIANS USED AROUND THE TIME OF THE SPHINK *ROFL*...LIKE ITS AN "OLD" LANGUAGE...MOVING ON.
Thats as dumb as saying that Me an english speaking person with writting my thoughts to my english speaking peers in japanese, nigga please.
SEE THE ABOVE.
guess what. You STILL havent answered my question. you still havent given me a DOB you still havent given me an AGE
I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER. IN FACT IM ALLOWING YOU TO FIND THE ANSWER ON *YOUR* OWN. WHY? BECAUSE IF I GIVE YOU A NAME (AS I DID) YOU *WONT* BELIEVE ME. IF I GIVE YOU A MONTH HE WAS BORN IN...HMMMM LETS SAY AUGUST...YOU WILL ARGUE....IF I SAY 62 AT THE TIME OF DEATH YOU WONT LOOK INTO IT....SO WHY BOTHER? IN REGARDS TO ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. THE QUESTION I ASKED THE OTHER GUY STILL HASNT BEEN ANSWERED. WHICH REMINDS ME. I BASED MY QUESTION ON *HIS* STATEMENTS. HE IMPLIED THAT "GOD" WAS "INVENTED". HOW ARE *YOUR* QUESTIONS OF JESUS RELEVENT TO THIS TOPIC? LOL! YOU'LL SEE WHY IM LAUGING AT THE END OF THIS POST. JUST KEEP READING.
youre dancing around the question like a bible study teacher. YOU still haven't answered it.
A BIBLE TEACHER WOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING OFF THE WALL. IM TELLING YOU TO PICK UP A BOOK AND FIND THE ANSWER FOR YOURSELF. WHY? BECAUSE WHATEVER I TELL YOU IS GONNA GO IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER. SO WHY BOTHER? IS IT THAT *HARD* TO PICK UP BOOKS AND READ?
It seems youre having problems answering my question. It would not be so hard for me to answer yours. *smile*
NO IM NOT HAVING PROBLEMS. IF I WERE HAVING PROBLEMS I WOULD NOT HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT BOOKS TO PICK UP AND WHAT SUBJECT MATTER TO READ (SO YOU COULD FIND YOUR ANSWER). SEE HERES THE THING.....*YOU* DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. YOU THINK YOU DO? I WILL SHOW YOU HOW YOU DONT. ITS ALL GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT *YOU* TYPED.
you amuse me again of what you think I know and don't know.
YOU *DONT* KNOW. LOL! JUST KEEP READING.
By now you should know much better. must I remind you of the 5 days it took you to refute my post about Nephillim etc. . .
I DONT REMEMBER THAT POST. THE SICCNESS ISN'T MY LIFE. REFUTING YOU ISN'T MY LIFE. IF IT TAKES 5 MONTHS, 5 YEARS OR 5ms SO BE IT. WHAT DOES TAKING 5 DAYS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
remember as I've told you before I say certain things to you on purpose for the express reason of humbling your arrogance.
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID PROVES THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. *NOW* ITS TIME TO SHOW YOU.


YOU MADE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS:
a better question how was jesus conceived
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can you provide me with jesus's real name age and date of birth
I REPLIED WITH THE FOLLOWING:
PICK UP A BIBLE.
YOU REPLIED WITH THIS:
Puh LEASE that was weak I would have expected more. Your logical facilities Obviously make you aware of the fallacious notion of an immaculate conception.
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neither his REAL name Age or D/O/B are there and YOU know that. come on now
YOU WERE THE FIRST TO QUESTION HOW JESUS WAS "CONCEIVED", DATE OF BIRTH ETC ETC ETC. YOU WERE THE FIRST TO MENTION AN "IMMACULATE CONCEPATION" (YOU DID SO BASED ON MY REPLY). i asked you the following.
WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME SOMETHING THATS MAINLY A ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE? when you say "immaculate conception" what are you talking about?

a.jesus being born without a human father?
b.mary being conceived with the holy spirit?
c.mary being sinless?
in your recent post you state the following:
Define for me what is this holy spirit. is it a PERSON, is it a being? does it have form? HMMMM. we all know that in order to produce human offspring SPERM must be manifest in the conception process. is the holy spirit sperm, is it a man with a penis???Please do not give me the ludicrous notion that a spook spit up in her. spooks dont make babies PEOPLE do.
once again we see the word "CONCEPTION".

based on YOUR STATEMENTS (AND LACK OF STATEMENTS) YOU ARE SAYING IMMACULATE CONCEPTION IS A *AND* B. GUESS WHAT?

IMMACULATE CONCEPTION HAS *LITTLE* TO DO WITH JESUS BEING BORN AND HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. IT HAS TO DO WITH *MARY* AND *SIN*!!! YOU HAVE NOT MADE ONE STATEMENT THATS RELEVENT TO A SUBJECT THAT *YOU* YOURSELF STARTED!ROFL!

YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY! SO THAT PROVES ME RIGHT WHEN I SAID :

YOUR answer about immaculate conception will PROVE without a shadow of a doubt that you

a.DONT study and read like you should

b.form biased opinions before you look into material

c.BRING UP TOPICS AND IDEAS THAT HAVE *NOTHING* TO DO WITH *THIS* THREAD.
YOU ARE MENTIONING IMMACULATE CONCEPTION BUT QUESTIONG THE "VIRGIN BIRTH"...LMAO!

IF YOU KNEW WHAT IT WAS YOUR QUESTIONS WOULD BE MORE GEARED TOWARDS MARY BEING *PARDONED* OF SIN. HOWEVER NONE OF YOUR STATEMENTS DEAL WITH THAT. IN FACT THEY ALL HAVE TO DO WITH JESUS BEING BORN,THE HOLY SPIRIT ETC ETC ETC. LOL@THE FOLLOWING!
Puh LEASE that was weak I would have expected more. Your logical facilities Obviously make you aware of the fallacious notion of an immaculate conception.
WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME ABOUT SOMETHING CATHOLICS BELIEVE IN?

HERES WHAT THE CATHOLICS SAY ABOUT IMMACULATE CONCEPTION

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm


HERES AN EXCERPT FROM ANOTHER SITE

http://www.gcsereligiousstudies.co.uk/Mary.htm
Many people confuse the immaculate conception with the virginal conception. The immaculate conception means that, when Mary was conceived in her mother's womb, she did not have original sin. The virginal conception (or virgin birth) means that when Mary conceived Jesus, she did not have sexual intercourse with Joseph, or any other person.


YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THE TERMS RIGHT AND YOUR ARGUING AGAINST SOMETHING. LOL!

NOW LETS SAY YOU DID KNOW WHAT IMMACULATE CONCEPTION WAS. WHY HAVE YOU NOT HINTED AT IT? WHY HAVE YOUR STATEMENTS BEEN DIRECTED AT JESUS,THE HOLY SPIRIT AND SPERM????

IF YOU KNEW WHAT IMMACULATE CONCEPTION WERE YOU
WOULDNT EVEN MENTION IT IN THIS TOPIC. ITS NOT RELEVENT TO ANYTHING BEING DISCUSSED. NOT ONLY THAT BUT IF YOU KNEW WHAT IT WERE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SAID
Your logical facilities Obviously make you aware of the fallacious notion of an immaculate conception.
*AFTER* I TOLD YOU TO READ THE BIBLE.

ITS SAFE TO CONCLUDE THAT YOU ARE USING THE WRONG TERMS. SINCE THATS THE CASE (ITS BEEN PROVEN) ITS ALSO SAFE THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOUR TALKING ABOUT.


LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SEE YA BUDDY AND STOP ASKING ME QUESTIONS.


HERESY


PS LOL@YOUR QUESTIONS AND ARGUEMENTS AND EXCUSE ALL TYPOS IM LATE FOR A GRADUATION!!!
 
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you know i really dont think it matter where God came from because its not going to change anything bout the world or make up any closer to God anyhow. the only reason someone would ask this question is because their curious and feel that learning bout the orgin of God would make there life's meaningful. When really if you spend the time to find God, you dont have a life to begin with.
 
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Locahontas said:
I don't know if this will help or hurt cuzz I don't know if this site is truthful or full of shit...It's really long, but waaaaay at the end (the very very end) it claims that they tested some blood stain that was 'supposed' to have come from Jesus. It then gives an explanation of the lack of the necessary number of y-chromosomes (come from a person's father) they found when they examined it. Like I said, I don't know how true it is, I wasn't there. But it makes for an interesting read...

http://www.bibleplus.com/discoveries/arkintro.htm
It can't be....
I read the article and it claims that the Ark of the Covenant has been found. I only read the info in a glance but it states that the Ark is in Israel some where hidden.
St. John's prophecy says that who ever controls Isreal will win the final battle. Did this mean that the long lost Ark was some where in Israel the whole time?
It sure sounds that way....
I always wondered what happenned to the ark.
Those who possessed the ark never lost a battle....
Hitler was after it.....
Glad ne never found it.
 
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From now on Heresy's nickname is Commander Data. I am captivated how deep you have studied. you are an extraordianry nigga. see :::::::::: for the synopsis of this post

@heresy -
First I reminded you of nephilim because you reminded me of coptic. so don't get mad at me giving you what you gave me first.
WOW you finally found out what demotic is. notice how NOW you use demotic as part of your argument but you said GREEK in the past argument. hmm. now that you know what demotic is and you know afrikaans & aramaic have common root in contrast to greek how can you possibly say that the source of for many of the sea scroll text be originally greek???? THANK YOU. OH, I have made no assertion that coptic was the language spoken around the time of the sphinx. that was very laughable. :)

@miggidy - the etymology of those names are not common; yes a b and c relatively and variably can be the same letter as d but they are not the same letter ACTUALLY.

@ heresy and miggidy - heresy asked an absolute question which warranted an absolute answer which i will provide. nicknames and aberrations are not THE name of jesus. a round about time is not THE time. the official is not THE DOB its a representation.

@heresy - I will look into it. but regardless of my belief you've dodged the point which is:

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I had no care about the context of his post when I addressed you. I addressed you because I thought It was interesting for you to ask who invented god as if it could be answered plausibly. you asking him that question is equivalent to me asking you mine. YOU can't answer it. and you've failed to for the last three posts.
hmmm.
don't you think it was unfair of you to ask an origin without being able to provide the origin of some of your own beliefs???????
this was my point totally.
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funny you have this notion that I don't read. that i don't study but how is it that I can defend my points of view without 3 paragraphs of logistical data? how is it that you have to go back and reread to refute me? how is it that you still bring up "coptic" and still validate my original point that septuigant/greek is not the original source? hmmm?

where in my statement did i assert that anything about the virginal conception contrast to immaculate conception??? hmmm??? what does either have to do with real name age or DOB ??? hmmm??? all this extra data has nothing to do with my question. you've spun three SIMPLE question into a dissertation.

basically you NEVER answered my question. I didnt ask you what book to find the data. I asked you a specific answer you gave me specific garbage. deal with it. why can't you answer questions without walking around the cosmos????

by the way congradulations, what was your degree in?
I'm always proud to hear of niggas educating theselves.

@loca the site info is spurious. to say the least.
 

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From now on Heresy's nickname is Commander Data. I am captivated how deep you have studied. you are an extraordianry nigga. see :::::::::: for the synopsis of this post
useless info.
First I reminded you of nephilim because you reminded me of coptic. so don't get mad at me giving you what you gave me first.
1.i dont know what neph topic you are talking about. if you could give details i would be able to recall.

WOW you finally found out what demotic is. notice how NOW you use demotic as part of your argument but you said GREEK in the past argument. hmm. now that you know what demotic is and you know afrikaans & aramaic have common root in contrast to greek how can you possibly say that the source of for many of the sea scroll text be originally greek????
the gospel of thomas (which is why we were discussing coptic in that thread) was TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK TEXT. I TOLD YOU THIS WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT. DO YOU REALIZE THAT *A LOT* OF SCIPRTURES ARE/WERE WRITTEN IN THE GREEK LANGUAGE?

SO TO *END* THIS DEBATE AS TO WHAT THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS WAS WRITTEN IN GO TO THIS SITE:
http://members.aol.com/ibss3/gospels.html

HERES AN EXCERPT FROM THAT SITE:

Discovery: 12 books were discovered in 1945 by 2 peasant brothers near Nag Hammadi, Egypt. These books are called the Nag Hammadi Library. The books were hidden in a sealed jar. They were taken to Priest’s home for safety because of blood vengeance. Department of Antiquities took the books. They are now preserved in the Coptic Museum in Cairo, Egypt.

Coptic Language: The Gopsel of Thomas is written in Coptic. Coptic is late Egyptian language written in Greek letters. Early Christianity in Egypt wrote in Coptic. There are still Coptic Churches in Egypt that use Coptic today.

Orginally written in Greek: The Coptic Gospel of Thomas was translated from the Greek. Fragments of this gospel in the original Greek version were found in the Oxyrhynchus, Egypt at the beginning of the 20th century. Biblical texts were also found. Oxyrhynchus Papyri 1, 654 and 655, were identified as parts of The Gospel of Thomas only after the discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library. Greek papyri 1 contains sayings 26-30, 77, 31-33 in this order, and the other two the sayings 1-7 and 36-40, respectively.


AS I SAID BEFORE IF YOU MADE YOUR STATEMENT AROUND THEOLOGIANS AND PROFESSORS YOU WOULD BE LAUGHED AT...HOWEVER SINCE WE DONT HAVE ANY ON THIS BOARD I WILL DO THEM A FAVOR...YOU READY???LMAO!

ONCE AGAIN I HAVE PROVEN YOU WRONG.

JUST TO RUB IT IN YOUR FACE A LITTLE BIT HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM THIS SITE:

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas

When a complete copy of it in Coptic was found in 1945 at Nag Hammadi in Egypt, it was then realized that Greek portions of it had been discovered in Oxyrhynchus, Egypt in 1898. The Greek fragments of the Gospel of Thomas have been dated to about 200, and the Coptic version to 340. Although the Coptic version is not quite identical to the Greek fragments, it is believed that the Coptic version was translated from a prior Greek version. Origen mentioned it in 233 among the heterodox gospels, as did Cyril of Jerusalem some time later.

LOL!

THANK YOU. OH, I have made no assertion that coptic was the language spoken around the time of the sphinx. that was very laughable
NO THANK YOU.
heresy and miggidy - heresy asked an absolute question which warranted an absolute answer which i will provide. nicknames and aberrations are not THE name of jesus. a round about time is not THE time. the official is not THE DOB its a representation.
NO NEED TO PROVIDE IT. ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS LEADING UP TO THIS POST SHOW THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE *NAME* OF JESUS WHY DONT YOU DO AS I TOLD YOU. *READ THE BIBLE*. IF YOU PICK UP A BIBLE AND *STUDY* IT YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER.
heresy - I will look into it. but regardless of my belief you've dodged the point which is:
REGARDLESS OF YOUR BELIEF? LMAO! YOU ARE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT DEEPLY? IF *YOU* CANT GET THE TERMINOLOGY RIGHT WHATS THE USE OF YOU TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG? YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS YOUR TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG ON....LMAO!
I had no care about the context of his post when I addressed you. I addressed you because I thought It was interesting for you to ask who invented god as if it could be answered plausibly.
I ASKED A QUESTION BASED ON *HIS* STATEMENT. TO PARAPHRASE HIM HE BASICALLY SAID GOD WAS "INVENTED".
you asking him that question is equivalent to me asking you mine. YOU can't answer it. and you've failed to for the last three posts.
YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT THAT COPTIC VERSION WAS THE ORIGINAL (LMAO) I SHOWED YOU THAT IT WASNT AND YOU STILL SAID IT WAS. IF I TELL *YOU* YOU WONT BELIEVE ME. I *DID* ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. READ THE BIBLE. IF I TOLD YOU SEPTEMBER 3RD 0 A.D. WHAT WILL YOU DO? RESEARCH IT? ARGUE? YOU WONT LISTEN, YOU WONT HEED SO WHY BOTHER? I POINTED YOU IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION. I GAVE YOU *SPECIFIC* THINGS THAT WILL AIDE YOU IN YOUR QUEST TO FIND THE ANSWERS YOU SEEK.

YOU ASKING ME THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE *NOTHING* TO DO WITH *MY* STATEMENTS OR THIS THREAD.
hmmm. don't you think it was unfair of you to ask an origin without being able to provide the origin of some of your own beliefs???????this was my point totally.
NO I DONT THINK IT WAS UNFAIR FOR ME TO ASK ABOUT HIS BELIEFS. HE MADE THE STATEMENT I DIDNT. NOW IF I HAD SAID "JESUS THIS JESUS THAT" BY ALL MEANS ASK AWAY....THATS NOT THE CASE...MY BELIEFS ARENT RELEVENT...I NEVER STATED THEM....
funny you have this notion that I don't read. that i don't study but how is it that I can defend my points of view without 3 paragraphs of logistical data?
HOW IS THIS LOGISTICAL DATA WHEN YOU MENTION THE IMMACULATE CONCEPATION BUT CONFUSE IT WITH THE VIRGIN BIRTH? YOUR DATA IS OUT OF SYNC...NOTHING LINES UP. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY. I LIKE TO PROVIDE READING MATERIAL...LET IT SOAK IN. YOU LIKE TO GIVE SHORT POSTS WITH TERMS THAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE CONFUSED...
how is it that you still bring up "coptic" and still validate my original point that septuigant/greek is not the original source? hmmm?
1.YOU NEVER GAVE ANY SOURCE THAT SAID THAT IT *WASNT* WRITTEN IN GREEK.

2.WHEN YOU MADE THAT STATEMENT (AWHILE BACK) I GAVE YOU *PROOF* (FROM SCHOLARS AND WEBSITES) THAT IT *WAS* WRITTEN IN GREEK AND *TRANSLATED* TO THE COPTIC LANGUAGE (WHICH IS A GREEK-EGYPTIAN HYBRID)

3.I JUST GAVE *YOU* NEW INFO AND EVEN POSTED EXCERPTS (FROM WEBSITES) THAT DAMN *YOUR* VIEW THAT THE ORIGINAL WAS WRITTEN IN COPTIC.
where in my statement did i assert that anything about the virginal conception contrast to immaculate conception??? hmmm??? what does either have to do with real name age or DOB ??? hmmm??? all this extra data has nothing to do with my question. you've spun three SIMPLE question into a dissertation.
1.YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD.

2.YOU ASKED ME QUESTIONS AND I TOLD YOU TO READ THE BIBLE.

3.*YOU* REPLIED WITH A COMMENT ABOUT IMMACULATE CONCEPATION *AND* THE FALLICIES OF IT. YOUR REPLY WAS BASED ON ME TELLING YOU TO READ THE BIBLE.

4.*NOTHING* YOU HAVE POSTED HAS TO DO WITH IMMACULATE CONCEPATION. IT HAS *EVERYTHING* TO DO WITH "VIRGIN BIRTH".

5.HOW IS IMMACULATE CONCEPTION RELEVENT TO *MY* BELIEFS? ITS A CATHOLIC DOCTRINE/DOGMA. IM NOT A CATHOLIC. ITS IRRELEVENT TO ME,YOUR POSTS AND THIS THREAD. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BRING IT UP?

6.YOU ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT JESUS AND YOU TIED IT IN WITH THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. IF YOU DIDNT YOU WOULDNT HAVE MADE YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT FALLICIES. NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU GO IN DEPTH AND TALK ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT.SPERM,PENIS,PEOPLE MAKING BABIES ETC ETC ETC

7.WHAT DOES IMMACULATE CONCEPTION HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD OR YOUR POSTS IF ITS RELEVENT TO MARY AND SIN?
basically you NEVER answered my question. I didnt ask you what book to find the data. I asked you a specific answer you gave me specific garbage. deal with it. why can't you answer questions without walking around the cosmos????
IN THE PAST *YOU* HAVE ASKED ME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I GAVE YOU SPECIFIC ANSWERS. YOU DIDNT WANT TO ACCEPT THEM. OH WELL. NOW THE ONLY THING I WILL DO IS POINT YOU IN THE DIRECTION. IF YOU DONT READ FOR YOURSELF OH WELL. THATS NOT MY PROBLEM. YOU WANT TO ARGUE AND DEBATE. IM TIRED OF THAT. I DONT WANNA DO THAT.
by the way congradulations, what was your degree in?
I'm always proud to hear of niggas educating theselves.
THIS SITE HAS A SEARCH ENGINE. USE IT TO FIND YOUR ANSWER.


GOOD NIGHT. I NEED AN HOURS OF REST BEFORE I HIT BAY VIEW.


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dude. my WHOLE argument was that the SOURCE of the gospel of thomas COULD NOT have been originally written in greek. DUDE. just because that is the OLDEST KNOWN record does not mean that it was the first and the ORIGINAL SOURCE. you miss the forest for the trees. you deny completely the possibility of a source that supercedes the one found. once again it could not have possibly been originally written in greek when the first people to record that information were not greeks.

how in the world can a search engine give me info about your degree if i don't even know your name. once again a simple question spun into something else. i can't even give you kudos without you being a dick. haha whatever.

YOU MENTIONED virginal birth. even if i said immaculate conception ultimately it had nothing to do with my original question. you just keep spinning and spinning and spinning.

the original question i posted had no malice or anything bad in it. you turned a simple question which would have lead to a simple point into a giant fiasco.
 
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http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58344&perpage=20&pagenumber=6
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=590561#post590561

refer to My point and Nitro's point

the following is my quote there from:

once again I picc at you sir because of your arrogance and your methodology of diseminating a persons post to refute every word in effort to spread the core of a subject so far from its original meaning that it becomes disheveled and pointless.

you tend to postulate your opinions on others as the only way but when it is refuted you "basically" beg a person to validate there point of view. every retort I've ever read from you has been "gimme proof, show me" and when all else fails you resort to base mannerisms such as name-calling and insults.

As much as I enjoy you I still feel you need to be more refined to be successful

Gahbezhya Ah Min hahaha
 

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dude. my WHOLE argument was that the SOURCE of the gospel of thomas COULD NOT have been originally written in greek. DUDE. just because that is the OLDEST KNOWN record does not mean that it was the first and the ORIGINAL SOURCE. you miss the forest for the trees. you deny completely the possibility of a source that supercedes the one found. once again it could not have possibly been originally written in greek when the first people to record that information were not greeks.
you prove my point once again. i give you something and you dont look into it. YOU HAVE NOT CAME WITH ONE OUNCE OR SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM THAT THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS WAS *NOT* WRITTEN IN GREEK. JUST BECAUSE A PERSON IS NOT GREEK DOESNT MEAN THEY CANT WRITE THE LANGUAGE. YOU HAVE CHINESE AMERICANS WHO DONT KNOW A THING ABOUT THE CHINESE DIALECT.... LMAO!!!!!!!

HERE MAN. SINCE YOU DONT READ


Originally written in Greek: The Coptic Gospel of Thomas was translated from the Greek. Fragments of this gospel in the original Greek version were found in the Oxyrhynchus, Egypt at the beginning of the 20th century. Biblical texts were also found. Oxyrhynchus Papyri 1, 654 and 655, were identified as parts of The Gospel of Thomas only after the discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library. Greek papyri 1 contains sayings 26-30, 77, 31-33 in this order, and the other two the sayings 1-7 and 36-40, respectively.

WHAT DOES THE FIRST SENTENCE SAY?

The Coptic Gospel of Thomas was translated from the Greek. PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH ***INFO*** AND FACTS TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS THAT THE ORIGINAL WAS NOT WRITTEN IN GREEK BUT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE...BACK YOUR CLAIMS.
how in the world can a search engine give me info about your degree if i don't even know your name. once again a simple question spun into something else. i can't even give you kudos without you being a dick. haha whatever.
I WILL NEVER GIVE YOU AN ANSWER AGAIN BECAUSE ITS **OBVIOUS** THAT YOU DONT LISTEN. YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ME? USE THE SICCNESS SEARCH ENGINE.
YOU MENTIONED virginal birth. even if i said immaculate conception ultimately it had nothing to do with my original question. you just keep spinning and spinning and spinning.
IF IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION (WHICH HAD TO DO WITH THE BIRTH OF JESUS) ***WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BRING IT UP***??????? WHY REPLY WITH IT????? WHAT DO FALLICIES HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING???? YOU CONFUSED THE TERMS AND ITS OBVIOUS. ITS AS PLAIN AS DAY. IF YOU CANT GET THE TERMS RIGHT WHATS THE USE OF YOU TRYING TO DEBATE OR GET AN ANSWER FROM ME???????

*YOU* WILL CONTINUE TO STAY IN YOUR SHELL. YOUR OWN ISLAND OR LITTLE CLOSET. I WILL GIVE YOU SOMETHING; PROVIDE PROOF, INFO, WEB SITES, AND BOOKS ETC ETC ETC. YOU WILL *STILL* ARGUE AND TRY TO REFUTE IT WITH *NOTHING*. I DONT WANNA DO THAT WITH YOU AND FOR NOW ON I WONT. DONT ASK ME ANYTHING (ABOUT THIS TYPE OF SUBJECT MATTER) BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY WANT TO DEBATE.
the original question i posted had no malice or anything bad in it. you turned a simple question which would have lead to a simple point into a giant fiasco.
NO FIASCO HERE. AT FIRST I LAUGHED AT EVERYTHING. NOW I ACTUALLY FIND PITY. WHY? YOU WANT TO ARGUE AND DEBATE SOMETHING THAT *YOU* CANT. YOU KEEP TRYING AND I KEEP FEEDING YOU BECAUSE I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. HOWEVER YOU LOVE CHAOS, MALICE AND SPITE. SO I WONT GIVE YOU ANYTHING OF THE SOURCE. YOU WANNA KNOW SOMETHING ASK GOD. DONT EVEN ASK ME. NOW YOU CAN SAY "I DONT BELIEVE IN GOD"...WELL THATS FINE. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE A PERSON WHO TESTIFIES OF GOD? YOU CANT AND YOU WONT.

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58344&perpage=20&pagenumber=6
ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE DIRECTING ME TO USELESS INFO. THAT THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC OR THE DISCUSSION GOING ON BETWEEN YOU AND I. WHAT I FIND FUNNY IS THAT MY NAME FLOWS OFF YOUR FINGERS EVERY CHANCE YOU GET. DO YOU SEE ME TYPING THINGS WITH YOUR NAME IN IT? NO. YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT SPARKED THE INTEREST OF NITRO. SO YOU HAVE A CO SIGNER? BIG DEAL!!!

NITRO IS THE SAME GUY WHO SAID:

ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE CHARGED FOR MURDER (IF THE PERSON OVERDOSED)

BLACKS KEEP RACISM GOING

FRESNO WAS AS GHETTO AS IT GETS

I CAN GO ON AND ON WITH HIS MADNESS BUT I WONT.
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=590561#post590561
MORE USELESS INFO. YOU HAVE YOUR BUDDY CO-SIGNING FOR YOU. DO YOU SEE ME SAYING "PEOPLE LIKE XIANEX ARE BLAH BLAH BLAH"??? NO. YOU WONT. YOU ARENT IMPORTANT MAN. JUST THINK ABOUT IT...FOR A SECOND...

OH AND LET ME HIT ON ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID IN YOUR POSTS.
those who fear others thinking for themselves outside ones opinion.
I HAVE TOLD EVERYONE ON THIS SITE TO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING. I HAVE TOLD THEM TO READ,RESEARCH AND APPLY. TO READ AND FORM AN ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE FACTS AND INFO THEY HAVE FOUND. EVERYONE ON THIS SITE CAN VOUCH FOR THAT. EVERYONE ON THIS SITE WHO I GET DOWN WITH (OFFLINE) CAN VOUCH FOR THAT. IM NOT TRIPPIN ON YOUR PETTY INSULTS AND COMMENTS. I COULD REPLY AND SAY *TRUE* THINGS ABOUT YOU BUT I WONT. I SIMPLY LAUGH BRO. I LAUGH BECAUSE YOU HANG ON MY EVERY WHIM...
once again I picc at you sir because of your arrogance and your methodology of diseminating a persons post to refute every word in effort to spread the core of a subject so far from its original meaning that it becomes disheveled and pointless.
THATS *EXACTLY* WHAT YOU DID.
you tend to postulate your opinions on others as the only way but when it is refuted you "basically" beg a person to validate there point of view. every retort I've ever read from you has been "gimme proof, show me" and when all else fails you resort to base mannerisms such as name-calling and insults.
BACK YOUR CLAIMS. WHEN I MAKE A STATEMENT PEOPLE ASK ME FOR PROOF. IF I MAKE A STATEMENT AND YOU WANNA CALL ME ON IT DO SO.

1.YOU CONFUSE AND USE THE WRONG TERMS.

2.YOU NEVER PROVIDE PROOF TO VALIDATE ANYTHING YOU SAY.

3.YOU NEVER REFUTE WITH ANY BOOKS, LINKS, AND CREDIBLE SOURCES, PROFESSORS ETC ETC ETC.

4.LMAO@NAME CALLING AND INSULTS. THATS COMING FROM THE IT GUY WHO HAS MADE POSTS ABOUT ME, THREADS ABOUT ME, EVEN "UNPUBLISHED SONGS" ABOUT ME...ROFL. GIVE IT UP JUNIOR.
As much as I enjoy you I still feel you need to be more refined to be successful
MATTER OF OPINION. YOUR VIEWS DONT DICTATE MY LIFE NOR DO THEY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CHOICES I MAKE.:classic:

YOU CAN HAVE THE LAST WORD BUT I WONT PARTAKE IN *THIS* DISCUSSION WITH YOU. MAKE IT GOOD SO WE CAN GET BACK TO THE TOPIC. :classic:


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PS WHEN I SAY YOU ARENT IMPORTANT I MEAN YOU ARENT IMPORTANT TO *ME*. I DONT MEAN IN LIFE.