Where Did God Come From?
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God is eternal. He has no beginning and no ending. Something which has no beginning does not "come" from anywhere. Likewise our souls are eternal, without beginning and ending.
All that has beginnings and endings, are manifestations of the material energy, our material bodies, and material universes.
All that has beginnings and endings, are manifestations of the material energy, our material bodies, and material universes.
I remember one of my teachers once told me that according to science time and matter are an illusion. Therefore, it is possible that God did not have a beginning. God does not live in a world that is dictated by time. Anyway, I believe that we cannot comprehend God, he is not human and doesn't posess human characteristics.
@ thapro - logical flaw
just because something doesnt have human characteristics it can't be comprehended?
my servers dont have human characteristics but i comprehend them well. neither does the stars in the sky but I comprehend them as well.
good point foetwin:
if god said let there be light how can he therefore be that light. if god exists as light how can he have created himself if he existed before what he had created?
and if god is originated in as and in darkness why is the darkness looked at as evil and the light as good.
knowledge has been personified by light and conjunctly the pursuit of knowledge is the origin of the first sin.
truthfully the revealing of that which is hidden being a sin is a recurrent theme through the bible until jesus the light of the world son sun of righteousness comes on scene.
I like heresy because I think he's a bright person one day I hope he sees this.
but as the saying goes ignorance is bliss.
by the way WHAT UP MY FELLOW NIGGER :H: have you found an opponent as worthy as me yet
I haven't scene one on THIS site yet.
~peaceless~
just because something doesnt have human characteristics it can't be comprehended?
my servers dont have human characteristics but i comprehend them well. neither does the stars in the sky but I comprehend them as well.
good point foetwin:
if god said let there be light how can he therefore be that light. if god exists as light how can he have created himself if he existed before what he had created?
and if god is originated in as and in darkness why is the darkness looked at as evil and the light as good.
knowledge has been personified by light and conjunctly the pursuit of knowledge is the origin of the first sin.
truthfully the revealing of that which is hidden being a sin is a recurrent theme through the bible until jesus the light of the world son sun of righteousness comes on scene.
I like heresy because I think he's a bright person one day I hope he sees this.
but as the saying goes ignorance is bliss.
by the way WHAT UP MY FELLOW NIGGER :H: have you found an opponent as worthy as me yet
I haven't scene one on THIS site yet.~peaceless~
@ Loca... Vyasadeva is pronounced Vee-Yah-Sah-Dave. Vyasadeva is the composer of the Vedic literature, written over 5,000 years ago. I don't follow a religion, I simply apply the spiritual philosophy of the Vedas to my life.
Says who? You? Don't you realize that you are desperately trying to rationalize God because He is unknown to you? Those who actually know God have no desperation nor need to rationalize anything.
More nonsense. God and science are not mutually exclusive nor are they incompatible. That is some pseudo-intellectual elitist bullshit.
This is fuckin ridiculous mayn. Do you honestly believe that science will explain "everything"?!??!??! If you do, then you are the one believing in something even more "Magical, Mystical", than God Himself. Otherwise known as science fiction. Too much Star wars and Star trek and sci-fi channel got cats not knowing what the fuck is what.
Says who? You? Don't you realize that you are desperately trying to rationalize God because He is unknown to you? Those who actually know God have no desperation nor need to rationalize anything.
More nonsense. God and science are not mutually exclusive nor are they incompatible. That is some pseudo-intellectual elitist bullshit.
This is fuckin ridiculous mayn. Do you honestly believe that science will explain "everything"?!??!??! If you do, then you are the one believing in something even more "Magical, Mystical", than God Himself. Otherwise known as science fiction. Too much Star wars and Star trek and sci-fi channel got cats not knowing what the fuck is what.
Miggidy:
There are plenty of "book collections" about the Vedas. They can be found in just about any bookstore. But these are predominantly speculations and conjectures about the Vedas rather than actual direct transliteration from the original Sanskrit texts.
It is similar to a person unfamiliar with Greek and Aramaic attempting to write in english a "collection" of Biblical scripture. It is not a pure transliteration (direct representation of characters from another alphabet), nor a concise translation (explanation or interpretation of a different language). Just as I doubt you would recommend a Bible collection authored by some unqualified opportunist, my opinion is that if one is to read the Vedas they should read them as they are, by a bona fide acarya, or spiritual master.
There are the 4 main Vedas (Rg, Yajur, Sama, Atharva), then there are the supplements to them, such as the Puranas, the Upanisads, the Vedanta-sutra, etc. Then there is the Mahabharata, within which is the Bhagavad-gita, the song of God, and which is the scientific textbook for beginning to understand the difference between spirit and matter. It is spoken by Sri Krsna to Arjuna on the battlefield of Kuruksetra, and is the preliminary text for one in this Kali-yuga. Originally there were only the 4 main Vedas, but as Kali-yuga (the age of quarrel and vice) approached, Vyasadeva foresaw the necessity to make these difficult teachings more accessible to the fallen souls. We are those fallen souls, and for us in this degraded condition Vyasadeva has given us the "5th" Veda, the Mahabharata, and Vyasadeva's own commentaries on the Vedas in the form of the Srimad-Bhagavatam (ripened fruit of the tree of knowledge), as a means of beginning to understand the intricate and heavy knowledge of the Vedas.
I would recommend the Bhagavad-gita by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. He is world-reknowned for his consummate Sanksrit knowledge, and in his gita he gives original Sanskrit, roman transliteration, english equivalents, and translations and purports. There is even Sanskrit pronunciation guide which explains how to read and say the original text. This book explains the heavy Vedic philosophy and deep spiritual subjects with crystal clarity and is very easy to read. If you are seriously interested in reading the Bhagavad-gita I will shoot you one for free.
Or if anybody else wants one they can just send me a pm or email and I will lace them up for free.
Bhagavad-gita Ch. 2 Text 20:
"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain."
There are plenty of "book collections" about the Vedas. They can be found in just about any bookstore. But these are predominantly speculations and conjectures about the Vedas rather than actual direct transliteration from the original Sanskrit texts.
It is similar to a person unfamiliar with Greek and Aramaic attempting to write in english a "collection" of Biblical scripture. It is not a pure transliteration (direct representation of characters from another alphabet), nor a concise translation (explanation or interpretation of a different language). Just as I doubt you would recommend a Bible collection authored by some unqualified opportunist, my opinion is that if one is to read the Vedas they should read them as they are, by a bona fide acarya, or spiritual master.
There are the 4 main Vedas (Rg, Yajur, Sama, Atharva), then there are the supplements to them, such as the Puranas, the Upanisads, the Vedanta-sutra, etc. Then there is the Mahabharata, within which is the Bhagavad-gita, the song of God, and which is the scientific textbook for beginning to understand the difference between spirit and matter. It is spoken by Sri Krsna to Arjuna on the battlefield of Kuruksetra, and is the preliminary text for one in this Kali-yuga. Originally there were only the 4 main Vedas, but as Kali-yuga (the age of quarrel and vice) approached, Vyasadeva foresaw the necessity to make these difficult teachings more accessible to the fallen souls. We are those fallen souls, and for us in this degraded condition Vyasadeva has given us the "5th" Veda, the Mahabharata, and Vyasadeva's own commentaries on the Vedas in the form of the Srimad-Bhagavatam (ripened fruit of the tree of knowledge), as a means of beginning to understand the intricate and heavy knowledge of the Vedas.
I would recommend the Bhagavad-gita by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. He is world-reknowned for his consummate Sanksrit knowledge, and in his gita he gives original Sanskrit, roman transliteration, english equivalents, and translations and purports. There is even Sanskrit pronunciation guide which explains how to read and say the original text. This book explains the heavy Vedic philosophy and deep spiritual subjects with crystal clarity and is very easy to read. If you are seriously interested in reading the Bhagavad-gita I will shoot you one for free.
Or if anybody else wants one they can just send me a pm or email and I will lace them up for free.
Bhagavad-gita Ch. 2 Text 20:
"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain."