WHAT LARRY BIRD SAID

[WHITE DEVIL]

"As a matter of fact black people themselves have stated time and again that they are even moreso in favor of cultural racial polarization than white people." -- WHO? WHEN? WHERE? Why are you making shit up? What the fuck is the point of all this rhetoric?

tadou, I know you are extremely disconnected from black america, likely moreso than the rest of this board, (regardless of your racial makeup) but you honestly have never heard of "keeping it black"? You've never seen the treatment Bryant Gumble, Tiger woods, etc. get by the black community? You've never heard of black people talkin shit on other blacks who listen to "whiteboy" music or "talk white"? There is immense pressure in the black community to "stay black"...I know you've never seen it firsthand (those Republican rallies can be quite the pale affair), but it exists. If you ask a black person about how would you imagine somebody who is culturally "black" among the black community, you get specific ideas of demeanor, music, attitude, etc.

I know this might be new knowledge to you, and since I said it, you likely won't listen. But maybe you will understand if you point you in the direction of books by Conservative black authors. Check out Shelby Steele's "Content of our Character", especially the chapter "On being Black and Feeling Guilty", check out anything by Thomas Sowell...I'd recommend their books to anyone...

Where the fuck are you even getting this shit from? What study was conducted that says the majority of NBA fans are white? Why can't i identify with Big Pun just because i'm not Puerto Rican? Why the fuck can't I identify with someone like a Jay-Z just because i'm not from Brooklyn? Are you saying that white people are unable to separate personalities from skin colors?

The majority of people in America are white. Using a simple demographic comparison, (Basketball gets fairly good ratings) you could say that unless 100% of the black population
watches it TV/is a fan, and less than 10 percent of the white population watches it, most fans are white.

And unfortunately, people do identify with skin color. Not white people, but people in general. Best believe if basketball was 100% white, the stadiums played nothing but heavy metal, and the announcers were all white, many black people would not watch it. The same rings true for any other racial comparison. If every basketball player was mexican, the stadiums played rancho, and the announcers spoke in Spanglish, whites and blacks probly would not watch it. Sick, sad world we live in. Sad but true.

 

[jay deuce]

why isn't Larry Bird complaining about the lack of black owners and GMs[/b], instead of trivial shit like this?

Bird wasn't complaining about anything numbnuts. He was asked a fucking question and he answered it. His answer pissed off a bunch of tight assed, bitch about anything morons. Yourself included.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I'm not disagreeing that it EXISTS, but you're attributing something to a whole section of a race without even a rough estimate.

See but this is the thing toto, I grew up around Black people. My ex-girl, last 2 years I been with was black, spent most of my time at her place. Racially mixed group of friends and bla bla, etc. There are black cultural commonalities. If you interviewed a black person and said to them, "How would you describe a black person who is culturally black?" you would see commonalities in music style preferred, dress, attitude, politics, etc.

There is no exact science judging the opinions of the entirety of a group of people. But I would bet it on anything worth my promise that I've been around more black people and seen and felt more of the commonalities of black culture than you have, simply based on attitudes. You work with alot of hypotheticals...your knowledge comes from the fact that you are the great possessor of tunnel vision. Similar to George Bush, you live in Tadou world, and your judgements are based on your own interpretation of the correct "form" of a person or concept.

Basketball differs from hockey and baseball in that Black people have laid a basically undisputed cultural claim to it. Most black people you ask will agree that there is a common black culture, and this culture is not about mingling with white people, trying to imitate or ape other races, but staying true to blackness, "keeping it black", etc. Ask black women who date outside their race what kind of attitudes they get from other black people. Ask black people who do not listen to hip-hop, jazz, R&B, soul, funk, or any genre considered traditionally "black" about the response they get from other black people.

I have never attended a Republican rally in my life, so guess again. You fucking dumbass Democrat.

Coulda fooled me, but how many times must I tell you I'm not a Democrat. Keep on with your one dimensional view of politics.

Your numbers related to TV watching aren't even reasonable. A white houehold is much more likely to have a satelite than a black one, so white households might be able to watch 7 and 8 games a week, whereas a black one might only catch 2 or 3........same thing goes with ticket prices. WHo is more likely to be able to afford a $60 ticket? What about SEASON tickets?

We are basically only disputing who is a fan and who is not a fan...anyone who watches basketball even somewhat regularly is a fan. White people are around what, 60 percent of America? And black people are somewhere around 20 percent? You're right my 10 to 1 ratio was off, but the point stands. What sport do you see in most "black" movies? What sport did most of the black kids at your school play (of those who played sports- recreational or on a team)? Did most black kids you knew play hockey? Wait up are kind of starting to get into hoser country...things may be a bit different out there.

In any case, basketball is, for the most part, culturally black. Deny this if you want....I dont know how or why you would...but most consumers of pretty much everything in this country are white. Most buyers of CDs, most buyers of cars, most watchers of movies, etc. This isn't because white people are great spenders, it's simply because white people are the majority. And white people having a hard time identifying both ethnically and culturally with basketball...though ethnicity usually provides an impetus for culture.

Look at soccer, friend, yet another sport that is not about color. Baseball--not about color. Why act like basketball is so different? And why isn't Larry Bird complaining about the lack of black owners and GMs, instead of trivial shit like this?

Larry Byrd's comments are not about the lack of black people running basketball. Why he would be interested in that is up to your tadou interpretation, but I wouldn't personally project my politics on anyone. Soccer is major outside of the US - inside the US it's a very much Latino-centric sport, and baseball cuts across color lines. Why are they different? Because they don't have an ethnocultural connection like basketball does. No one would ever call rap a "white man's genre", but white people have always and will always want a white MC to identify with, as evidenced by the popularity of Eminem.

 

[jesse james]

I would take that the wrong way if I was black, like the black athletes aren't good enough??? What the white man's money is to good for us?????????
It's always good to see a good ass whiteboy in the mix, even the black man loves a good whiteboy with game ...........

 

[jay deuce]

^^ The problem is, people like Larry Bird would have those "whiteboys" get special treatment: extra interviews, the specials on ESPN, halftime interviews, etc. Whereas, he obviously wants to see a decrease in sneaker deals, sports drink deals, et al for the colored superstars (who, we could imply from his statements, there is already "enough" of). All under the guise of "unity" and "appealing to a wider audience"--yeah fucking right.

I love how you make shit up out of a harmless answer to a question. You are a fucking clown.

 

[EDJ]

SNUBNOZE,
WHY YOU PICCIN' ON A NIggA? I DIDN'T QUOTE CUZZ BUT gAVE MY INTERPRETATION OF HIS STATEMENT.

FILTHY RICH,

RIgHT ON FOR THE HEADS UP. YOU gOT N-E MO' INFO?

 

[tadou]

I love how you make shit up out of a harmless answer to a question. You are a fucking clown.

Imply, friend...imply. And you, sir, are the fucking clown for the ad hominem shit, instead of just responding to what i said.

 

[jay deuce]

You fuckin jackass HOW DID HE IMPLY ANYTHING?

Yeah Filthy Rich, fill the post with more bullshit hearsay so tadou and EDJ can jerkoff.

 

[Fridge]

I think there should be one all white team, make them from Idaho or something. TCall them the Boise Polar Bears or something. See how they add up to the rest of the league. IF they are dead last, somebody gets to slap Larry Bird, if they are number 1, Larry Bird gets to slap somebody.

Now, doesn't that solve the problem?

 

[MEXCOM]

Need more proof? There's a town in Indiana called Martinsville that's known for 2 things: larry bird owns a car dealership there, and it's the state headquarters for the KKK.

This is proof of what? That he's racist?

 

[Ethereal]

I think there should be one all white team, make them from Idaho or something. TCall them the Boise Polar Bears or something. See how they add up to the rest of the league. IF they are dead last, somebody gets to slap Larry Bird, if they are number 1, Larry Bird gets to slap somebody. Now, doesn't that solve the problem?

We absolutely must have chinese referee's.

 

[Al-Kaholik]

I looked all over google and other search engines and couldn't find anything about Larry Bird using the "n-word".

 

[And`1]

color shouldnt matter. whoever has the talent to play in the league should be there.

 

[carlos]

larry bird is just with the blk folks thats it....when he says it he means it to how blk folks be sayin it to each other....bird just speak the truth....and he's right nba need more big white names so it can represent thats all he trynna say....it's a black mans sport cuz it's a black man's sport thats how it came so thats how it's gon be...prolly be sum problems if there was more whites then blacks cuz u know how the whites play, they play wit not so raw attitude not comin to da game and enjoyin it they just ...play...and it wouldn't be alot of stars cuz i know for a fact that black folks is better then white in basketball...not cuz there color but cuz it's there culture now and take a look now how strong they are then take a look back alot were weak from wha happened along time ago...but my point is that the way it is in basketball is da way everybody gotta deal with shit i shouldn't even say that becuase most people don't even have a problem with that type of shit, da ones dat do are the ones that barely talk about that shit cuz it's a nigga sport soowhat how come they have a problem wit it cuz there not enough whites and it's to much blacks? it aint nobodies fault they choose great players from college and most of em are black and just hella good...you see the ones havin a lil problem with it when there playing a game from playstation 2 talk about how it's to much blacks.. soo fucin what? there just mad cuz they wish it was a white mans game then you'd see a whole shit load of white folks playing all over, but they talk about how it's a black mans game so they say 'no it's to much'...i think the ones from nba that chooses players are correct with this shit here...if it was a racist nba then you'd see da difference...peoople still can't get over that shit

 

[jay deuce]

^^ WOW

 

[tadou]

I hope i never have to say this again....but i agree with jay deuce.

 

[EDJ]

JAY DUKE,
51ST OF ALL,
KEEP MY NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH.

XCONDLY,
IF FILTHY RICH HAS MORE INFO ON WHAT HE WAS STRESSIN', THEN I WANTED CUZZ TO ELABORATE ON WHAT HE HEARD, CAUSE IT IS HEARSAY.

3RDLY,
IF YOU gONNA COME ALL CHILDISH AND TRY TO DISRESPECT, THEN PM OR E-MAIL ME AND WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.

 

[jay deuce]

Where will we take it from there?

 

[Ethereal]

To the streetz n&*ga.

 

[HERESY]

WE NEED MORE BLACK OWNERS.........


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