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Pure Life said:
like i said to you...you base all your facts from your teacher who hasnt been a cop for quite sometime....

you can always google up everything...but you hate being wrong ..

i let u be..you sore loser..
Nothing wrong with google, that's how I proved heresy Wrong. It's like looking up in a book for facts. I proved HERESY WRONG.















LOL J/P
 

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#43
Pure Life said:
your teacher who hasnt been a cop for quite sometime....
My teacher TEACHES THIS STUFF FOR A LIVING! Why would I believe YOU over him? Second of all he hits the the concord pd ONCE A MONTH. Third of all he does ride alongs with his son (who is a SF officer) so this DESTROYS your ENTIRE argument that he hasn't been in a new car, and the implied argument of he doesn't know because he is retired.

Again, my teacher = at the police department EVERY MONTH and doing ride alongs with his SON (which would place him INSIDE of a new vehicle DUMMY.)

Your sources = ???????????????????? :dead:
 

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#47
for him to say that every police deparment lacks of video recording devices and laptops.

and that those laptops in their patrol cars dont have access to peoples records...

it's B U L L S H I T
I don't believe I ever said every police department lacked video recording devices and lap tops. What I initially said was, "Pure life, cops don't have access to your records when they pull you over. They can see if you have a warrant, but in no shape for or fashion can they just look at your record (ON THE SPOT) and decide what action to take."

The cops don't have access part was clarified later on. The part about looking at your record and deciding on what action to take was clarified when I said it was ILLEGAL (which is also what my teacher said.)

1. 90% of the police cars in the U.S. are equipped with video cameras and laptops
You have provided no source to validate this claim. Since you have provided no source no one believes you. You've had ample time to provide a source and you have been asked for it SEVERAL TIMES. However, you have FAILED to provide substantial proof, so your claim is rejected. Again, I am getting my numbers from my teacher, and I have books that basically say the same thing. You don't have ANYTHING. Case closed.

2. those laptops CAN GET ALL YOUR CRIMINAL RECORD..
Not all of them can. Many departments have different computers. Some CAN access your record, your picture, and even the FBI data base, but others are LIMITED in what their computers can do, and still rely on DISPATCH to give them updates on criminal history and warrant checks (even when a computer is in the car.)

it will show every traffic citation, how many times you been to jail, what you been convicted of and etc...
SEE ABOVE.

now just because he asked his teacher and his teacher gave him a bogus answer..he will believe it..just because that's his teacher..
Read this again, dummy:

if need be I'll get some books for further citing.
I don't have to rely on my teacher to validate my claim, but I am relying on him for the time being because he is a more credible source than you, and I don't need to post up the info from the books just yet.

now this character Heresy still living in the 60's or 70's...cuz I know I'm not and I'm aware of the new technology...
Still living in the 60's and 70's? LMAO! And you are still living in the back of a police car, sir. How are you aware of the new technology? Because you work for the police department? Because your uncle works for them? Because they just happened to give you a print out of all of your history, and you just happened to have it on file to where you can post it here? You just happened to be able to format it correctly and put it in bold font (to match how it really looks), yet you make a gazillion typo's, construct run-on sentences and molest the english language? Sure, Gilligan. :dead:

but that's his problem...he doesnt know when to admit that he was wrong..
Sure pal.

guess being in the Gathering Of Minds and being proved wrong is a bad thing..
Thanks for speaking from experience.

we all like to be right..but in this case..he loses this one and he knows it..
Yet, SEVERAL people here are asking you to prove your claim, and some of them are openly saying YOU CAN'T. LMAO!
 

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#48
When asked about the information you claim is yours and if it was PRE Project 54 or if it is TACNET, you didn't give a logical or informative answer.

So, the new question is what makes YOU an expert on police car computers across the entire united states, and where are you getting your numbers from?
 
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i should go get pulled over to see if i can check out the cruiser for all its gadgets and get laced up on game.

and if they hook me up with the info i'm going to post it on the siccness. so u guys can stop bickering.

~k.
 

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#50
Everyone, pay attention. This guy is a TOTAL MORON. He was given AMPLE TIME to prove his claims, and now he comes with links that STILL don't validate his claims. Watch how I make him look like an even bigger idiot (which is something I didn't know were possible.)

In regards to the first link, how does ANYTHING in that link validate your position? In fact it validates what I have been saying.

Here is an excerpt:

In fact, several U.S. cities have either already implemented or are seriously looking into vehicle mounts for laptop computers -- but not just in commercial vehicles: The country's police, sheriff departments, and military-based units, both domestic and overseas, are installing very innovative, state-of-the-art laptops designed specifically for in-vehicle public safety use -- right now.
What have I been saying? I have been saying all squad cars do NOT have computers. This is VALIDATED by the article stating SEVERAL CITIES have them AND that some are still CONSIDERING THEM. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE IT YET.

But, your claim is ALL but 10% of squad cars have computers AND video cameras. LMAO!

Again, lets take a look at something else presented in the article:

Though many larger city's cop cars are already equipped with laptops, they're limited in terms of on-the-spot information. With the newer, "rugged " laptops, officers can now easily file case reports from their cars, look up a specific arrest warrant, outstanding citations. and otherwise shadowy information criminals don't want them to know.
Again, what have I been saying? I've been saying a lot of squad cars have computers that are LIMITED in what they can bring up and your article EVEN SAYS IT! LMAO!!!!!!

Here let us look at another:

And one more police unit will really appreciate these laptops: Dispatchers will be under less pressure and have fewer problems with miscommunication.
Haven't I not spoke about this? The delay times and relying on dispatch for information?

Sorry guy, you loose on that one. But, I'm going to butcher every link you posted. Lets go to the next link.

Lets pay attention to the opening statement.

Chicago police officers will soon be able to get mug shots, arrest records and conviction information on suspects while still in their squad cars as officials begin installing new laptop computers in more than 2,000 vehicles
Dearest, dummy this article (like the one before it) is dealing with specific cities. The Chicago police department does NOT represent 90% of this nations police force.

Now lets take a look at something else from that article:

While squad cars are already equipped with laptop computers, Huberman said the information those computers can access is very limited. The current computers allow officers to look up a specific arrest warrant or automobile registration, but the new computers will allow them to find any outstanding warrants, citations or vehicle registrations for a suspect, Huberman said.
Again, the older computers have access to LIMITED information (something I already stated), but the article says NOTHING about criminal record access.

And now lets finish this up and give a bit of insight as to why some cities still are behind:

The new program will be funded by a $9 million grant from the Department of Homeland Security, according to Daley.
Again, this validates what I have been saying. They have the MONEY to pay for the system. Departments that are strapped for cash and NOT getting anything from homeland security grants or other financial outlets/sources are NOT able to upgrade.

Link two destroyed lets go to link three.

FLAT ROCK -- Digital cameras and laptop computers soon will be in use in the city's police cars.

Officials voted 6-1 at a recent City Council meeting to purchase seven digital video cameras and unanimously approved the purchase of six laptop computers to be used in patrol cars.
SEVEN CAMERAS AND SIX LAP TOPS? LMAO!!!!!! Out of how many squad cars for that city? Oh yeah...THAT CITY. Again, this article and what is going on in that city does NOT reflect what is going on in the departments in the u.s.

Let's take a look at another part of your link that validates what I previously said:

Pre-sently, the department's squad cars do not contain laptops and are outfitted with outdated VCRs.
:dead: x your entire argument. It just went down the drain with that one, junior. What have I been saying? Police departments have outdated equipement, and the ones that do have access to new toys do so because they have the means to do it.

Finally, lets validate something else I said, and of course we'll use your link to do it:

The seven units will be purchased from Kansas- based Kustom Signals Inc. through a three-year buy-to-own agreement.

Yearly payments of $15,468 per year at 7 percent interest will amount to a total cost of $43,435...The new laptops will be purchased from Electronic Computer Services Inc. of Woodhaven at a cost of $19,832.
Again, what have I said? VIDEO CAMERAS are more expensive than the lap tops. Now, use the oatmeal between your head to answer he question.

If video cameras are more expensive than computers, and the majority of squad cars have outdated computers, how can 90% of this nations police department have video and new computers if they don't have the means (or barely have the means) to afford it? :dead:

Finally, your last link:

I'll murder you with one excerpt (although I can post 4)

The project to outfit cars with laptops is currently on hold until these issues are resolved. Half of the planned 121 computers have been purchased.
(emphasis mine)

lmao!!! Your entire argument is down the drain.
 

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#51
kayvee said:
i should go get pulled over to see if i can check out the cruiser for all its gadgets and get laced up on game.

and if they hook me up with the info i'm going to post it on the siccness. so u guys can stop bickering.

~k.

First of all, no one is bickering. However, this guy came out the blue with something sideways, so I have the right to continue to make him look like an idiot. Also, we have thousands of cities in the country and you getting pulled over in one city and seeing new toys or info pertaining to your record does not mean you'll get teh same results in the next city after that, or the next city after that or the one after that one.
 

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#53
Pure Life said:
look at the dates...it's 2006...

just give it up....accept the fact that you are wrong...
LMAO! Your argument has been blown out of the water. For all we know ALL of those departments could have yanked those computers out or could have failed to finish paying for them because of budget cuts.

You were given PLENTY of time to provide ample evidence to support your claim. You failed, just like you failed at life, and just like you failed at trying to prove a point here. I just proved your links prove me right, yet you'll continue to look stupid anyway because you need my attention. Make your next reply your last.
 
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HERESY said:
First of all, no one is bickering. However, this guy came out the blue with something sideways, so I have the right to continue to make him look like an idiot. Also, we have thousands of cities in the country and you getting pulled over in one city and seeing new toys or info pertaining to your record does not mean you'll get teh same results in the next city after that, or the next city after that or the one after that one.

i dunno this is the bay..i think its pretty likely. if i get pulled over, like i said..i'll post up if i come across any goodies. :cool:

~k.
 

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kayvee said:
i dunno this is the bay..i think its pretty likely. if i get pulled over, like i said..i'll post up if i come across any goodies. :cool:

~k.
Please read the post again:

we have thousands of cities in the country and you getting pulled over in one city and seeing new toys or info pertaining to your record does not mean you'll get the same results in the next city after that, or the next city after that or the one after that one.