what does hip-hop mean to you

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Nov 25, 2003
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yo, i keep myself out of this kind of thing

but that just sounds ignorant
THAT'S CUZ U ARENT A CRIP AND DIDNT CREATE IT...
AND WHATS YOUR DEFINITION OF IGNORANT???? IF ITS NOT KNOWIN...THAT MAKES U THE IGNORANT ONE...DONT CAST STONES JUST CUZ U DONT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING...DO U FEEL ITS IGNORANT WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM STREET NAMES THEY DONT EVEN LIVE ON??? CUZ I SEE A LOT OF THAT NOWDAYS. IM A REAL ONE.WITH AN EDUCATION...JUST HAPPENED 2 GROW UP IN A CRIP NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPLEMENTED IT IN MY LIFE AND MUSIC...THATS REALER 2 ME THAN RAPPING ABOUT NEW CARS SEEN ON THE FREEWAY AND BRAGGIN ABOUT JEWELRY AND THINGS THAT ARENT AFFORDABLE IN REGULAR SOCIETY.1
 
Jul 20, 2010
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THAT'S CUZ U ARENT A CRIP AND DIDNT CREATE IT...
AND WHATS YOUR DEFINITION OF IGNORANT???? IF ITS NOT KNOWIN...THAT MAKES U THE IGNORANT ONE...DONT CAST STONES JUST CUZ U DONT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING...DO U FEEL ITS IGNORANT WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM STREET NAMES THEY DONT EVEN LIVE ON??? CUZ I SEE A LOT OF THAT NOWDAYS. IM A REAL ONE.WITH AN EDUCATION...JUST HAPPENED 2 GROW UP IN A CRIP NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPLEMENTED IT IN MY LIFE AND MUSIC...THATS REALER 2 ME THAN RAPPING ABOUT NEW CARS SEEN ON THE FREEWAY AND BRAGGIN ABOUT JEWELRY AND THINGS THAT ARENT AFFORDABLE IN REGULAR SOCIETY.1

i think tay hit it on the head with out meaning to lol "JUST HAPPENED 2 GROW UP IN A CRIP NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPLEMENTED IT IN MY LIFE AND MUSIC..." thats the culture he was raised in so its his way of life ... to say its not a culture take away your clothes that you wear take away your music take away your car take away the way you are raised your thoughts your feelings towards certain issues becuase more then likely are loosely based around the culture what do you have . There are many elements to the culture an idea of hiphop wether it be equipto killa tay or e40
 
Apr 25, 2002
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THAT'S CUZ U ARENT A CRIP AND DIDNT CREATE IT...
AND WHATS YOUR DEFINITION OF IGNORANT???? IF ITS NOT KNOWIN...THAT MAKES U THE IGNORANT ONE...DONT CAST STONES JUST CUZ U DONT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING...DO U FEEL ITS IGNORANT WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM STREET NAMES THEY DONT EVEN LIVE ON??? CUZ I SEE A LOT OF THAT NOWDAYS. IM A REAL ONE.WITH AN EDUCATION...JUST HAPPENED 2 GROW UP IN A CRIP NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPLEMENTED IT IN MY LIFE AND MUSIC...THATS REALER 2 ME THAN RAPPING ABOUT NEW CARS SEEN ON THE FREEWAY AND BRAGGIN ABOUT JEWELRY AND THINGS THAT ARENT AFFORDABLE IN REGULAR SOCIETY.1
what you just said isn't ignorant and makes sense
 
Jan 24, 2003
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Hip hop is creativity expression and so much more. Those that best express their own mindstate and are most creative and talented create the best hip hop and it is just another form of music and yes I put gangsta rap crip hop and whatever other sub genre you want to come up with as hip hop the art form. I'm sick of hearin people say that hip hop is dead you just arent listening to the right artists. The new albums by The Roots, Nas and Damian Marley, Big Boi thats just off the top of my head I would put those up against good albums from any other time period. The music changes and there is always good creative music and bad talentless gimmick imitation music being made its just the nature of the industry.
 
May 12, 2002
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Your gonna rhyme about what you see heard and what you know. Everything is glorified or said in a slick manner for attention shock value or whatever. Self expression. East Coast West Coast regardless it came from the streets. I listened to all forms. It's hard not to because it's integrated with all genres of music. Pretty much all of the above mentioned is Hip Hop. People can classify it how they please, but you will not create a new form of music or culture by adding your own twist to it. It is what it is. My 2 cents
 
Jul 21, 2002
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#69
bein fly and lookin fresh has been a part of hip hop to some degree. For the ones that came out with gritty, street raps, they weren't stuntin with what they were wearing. Early Wu Tang clan, early Nas, Redman and rappers of that nature weren't stuntin. They were street. They got their money and put the chains on and all that.
 
Oct 25, 2007
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you would think if hip-hop were a culture in the way religion were a culture, you'd be able to define it simply and pinpoint something that makes a person or thing hip-hop.

what makes a person a christian? they believe in jesus christ. what makes a person a mexican? they're from mexico. what makes a person hip-hop? they listen to hip-hop music?

no. then what is it?

you can be a graffiti writer without listening to hip-hop. a person that listens to slayer all day and doesn't give a fuck about rap can kill harder than a person that listens to wu-tang clan b-sides all day. break dancing is a style of dance people do to hip-hop music. turntablism is a production technique of hip-hop music.

obviously hip-hop music has cultural characteristics. so do model train builders, comic book readers, coffee drinkers and child molesters. but none of those are cultures either.

the reason i bring this shit up and take a stand on it is because there's people who would say mac dre and killa tay aren't a part of real hip-hop culture. i don't fuck w/that viewpoint, if that's true, hip-hop culture can suck a dick. hip-hop has never been exclusively about sensitivity and the struggle and resisting material posessions or whatever the fuck a lame wanna say something has to be to be hip-hop. hip-hop is and has always been about whatever the fuck a rapper wanna say on a track.

the rest of what ya'll talking you just saying cause you heard it somewhere and thought it sounded cool. krs-one and afrika bambataa's word is not the gospel, if it was why the fuck do no one wanna hear him rap in 2011? graffiti, turntables and breakdancing, how hip-hop of you. lol.
 
Aug 17, 2002
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society is a sponge and it soaked up hip hop from the Crazy Legs, Public Enemy, NWA, and G-Funk era and shat out lil b, cristal parties, gwen stefani collabs and skinny jeans.

Antilabs brings up some good points, even though I don't fully agree with him.

Hip Hop used to be pretty distinct but it got soaked up by corporate america and is kind of undefined now, but back in the day it was pretty distinct.
 
Feb 7, 2006
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no it hasn't been about what a rapper wants to say on a track cuz the shit didn't start with rappers it started with the DJ. I would say the mufuckas who are instrumental in gettin the rappin and music to where it can be what it is now to make YOU have opinions on it have more right to say what hip hop is or not.

But people are always gonna fight about what they want to identify with and not. that's granted but you have too much hate about the term/culture based on waht some simple minded fools say. The point is this hiphop music this rapping and rhyming to a beat shit that done went off to become what ever the fuck it is today, started in SOuth Bronx around niggas writing on walls, stuntin, spinnin on they back, scratching records etc. and the majority of them people agreed with the term hip hop for what they were collectively doing. you wasn't there and your not a major figure respected globally in rap music so how you gon fight that cuz some fool sid tay and dre weren't hip hop?
 
Jul 21, 2002
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no it hasn't been about what a rapper wants to say on a track cuz the shit didn't start with rappers it started with the DJ. I would say the mufuckas who are instrumental in gettin the rappin and music to where it can be what it is now to make YOU have opinions on it have more right to say what hip hop is or not.

But people are always gonna fight about what they want to identify with and not. that's granted but you have too much hate about the term/culture based on waht some simple minded fools say. The point is this hiphop music this rapping and rhyming to a beat shit that done went off to become what ever the fuck it is today, started in SOuth Bronx around niggas writing on walls, stuntin, spinnin on they back, scratching records etc. and the majority of them people agreed with the term hip hop for what they were collectively doing. you wasn't there and your not a major figure respected globally in rap music so how you gon fight that cuz some fool sid tay and dre weren't hip hop?
THANK YOU!!! I'm still not sure why this is even an argument. This is the facts about hip hop.^^^^^^