What do you think Prison does to people?

[Rob S4]

What do you think Prison does to people?

As a person who has been locked up 3 times, I know all about what it does. It brakes you down and shows you how things are in society. For some like me it puts a change inside of yourself that makes you take life more seriously. Iam glad I went it changed me for the better and made me wise up real quick. For others they say that prison makes them colder but if they did the crime do they really have the right to complain? I know I did complain while I was in but at the same time I knew my life would change. So in that fact prison helped to make me a better person (I cant believe I said that). What do you think.

 

[Stealth]

I dunno man - I never got locked up myself. I know a few killers that are there forever, but in my opinion they should just be left there to rot.

Aside from that - I got a LOT of friends that are junkies. Straight up needle-sticking-out-of-the-arm heroin addicts. One of my buddies got real bad into heroin after his sister got shot. Another one was real bad on the shit and ended up hitting someone with their car and killing them. The last one, my best friend in the world, is a straight up crackhead and junkie - the worst drug addict i've ever met in my life.

Jail didn't do shit for any of them. Once a junkie always a junkie. Or - the only rehab for a junkie is six feet underground. If you have something like that going on, and you go to jail, you'd think to yourself "well, i've been sober for a year and I haven't done any drugs and I have a fresh start at a new life" but these kids get out of jail, call up their guy, and go blow a stamp bag or shoot a bizzle before they even get home from prison. So - if you're a junkie - I say jail doesn't do shit. My uncle's been locked up more times than I can count and he's still a crystal meth head who went to my grandma's funeral tripping on peyote.

The people I know that have killed - they're not getting rehabilitated because they're staying in jail until they die.

So, if you're not a drug addict and you've never killed someone - I think jail can help you if you're that kind of person. Completely depends on the type of person you are though. Do you attribute your faults to your own mistakes, or do you attribute everything to "you being a victim of society". If you take responsibility for your life, then prison - just like any other challenge - will teach you a lesson and make you a better person. But if you think "the system did you wrong" you'll just grow bitter and turn into a bigger piece of shit.

But killers obviously don't have respect for human life, consequences, or their own future. Something is morally missing in their head. They say psychopaths and sociopaths are the hardest people to rehab in prison because they feel no remorse for what they did wrong, but they're smart enough to fake the system and make people think that they're "cured" so they can get release. For this reason, most psychopaths/sociopaths are not granted early release, even under good behavior - because they're just playing the game and they never actually learned any type of lesson.

 

[Rob S4]

^^^Good insight.

It changed me because I was a dumb fuck who got in trouble. It was my fault I was there so i got what I deserved.

 

[Merciedez]

no one wants to be restrain, its not natural for us to be restrain in any way or locked up. It enhances and creates more mental problems and disorders on top of everything else in developing mental minds.

Its an easy way out for society not to deal with people's problem. If you lock them up you don't have to think about them. The problem with that idea is you can't lock them up forever. By placing them with other individual with more acute mental disorders you gave access to assisting in furthering mental violence. In prison and incaptivity your only thought is to get out find a way to roam, when the brain and body can't you start a violent reaction in the brain and state of it.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

It’s a money machine. 2 million+ Amerikans are locked in a cell (over 6 million in the correctional system), the majority are non-violent criminals, minorities and the overwhelming majority come from poor families/households

90 Days of jail (work release) for 2-0-Sixx taught me absolutely nothing besides the fact that I had to pay a shit load of money.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

It’s a money machine. 2 million+ Amerikans are locked in a cell (over 6 million in the correctional system), the majority are non-violent criminals, minorities and the overwhelming majority come from poor families/households

Yeah man, I haven't been to jail and hopefully won't go. But a lot of the people in jail are minorities who get fucked with and that's not right at all. And like you said, it probably teaches them a lot about society: YOU'RE BASICALLY FUCKED BEING A MINORITY IN THIS SYSTEM. So, the whole idea of a prison being used to rehab someone isn't bad, if it wasn't so corrupt.

 

[EDJ]

ROBS4,
I DOUBT THAT YOU WENT TO PRISON. MAYBE COUNTY JAIL. BUT YOU SOUND LIKE A WEENIE. JAIL DON'T DO SHIT BUT BREEDS AN INSTITUTIONALIZED MENTALITY. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE. PERSONALLY IT LEFT A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH AND MADE ME HATE THIS PUNK ASS SYSTEM EVEN MORE. JAIL DON'T DO SHIT BUT MAKES YOU A BETTER CRIMINAL. I AgREE WITH MERCIEDEZ.

 

[Stealth]

So, since we all pretty much agree in one way or another that jail doesn't help everyone (or in some of your opinions anyone)........

What's a good alternative?

 

[J-Boeg]

What do you think Prison does to people?

As a person who has been locked up 3 times, I know all about what it does. It brakes you down and shows you how things are in society. For some like me it puts a change inside of yourself that makes you take life more seriously. Iam glad I went it changed me for the better and made me wise up real quick. For others they say that prison makes them colder but if they did the crime do they really have the right to complain? I know I did complain while I was in but at the same time I knew my life would change. So in that fact prison helped to make me a better person (I cant believe I said that). What do you think.

thats good, its too bad more people cant be like you and come to grips with the fact that it was their fault

 

[Roxy]

Committing Jornalism:The Prison Writings of Red Hog by Dannie Martin. One of the best books about prison life and its effects on prisoners. Very engaging and honest.

 

[Mac Jesus]

I think if they started investing money in education, healthcare, housing, jobs, and programs that respond to social and economic needs a lot of the crime would cut back.

It's like that quote from the dead prez song..

"You have the emergence in human society of this thing that's called the State What is the State? The State is this organized bureaucracy It is the po-lice department. It is the Army, the Navy It is the prison system, the courts, and what have you This is the State -- it is a repressive organization But the state -- and gee, well, you know, you've got to have the police, cause.. if there were no police, look at what you'd be doing to yourselves! You'd be killing each other if there were no police! But the reality is.. the police become necessary in human society only at that junction in human society where it is split between those who have and those who ain't got ~ Chairman Omali Yeshitela"

 

[MEXCOM]

So, since we all pretty much agree in one way or another that jail doesn't help everyone (or in some of your opinions anyone)........

What's a good alternative?

The Chinese have one. Some sort of mental conditioning involving meditation, insightful thought and counselling.

 

[KleanKut]

What they need to do is have prison on an island or something. Dont give the prisoners anything to eat or drink. Give them the tools nessascary to crate food and purify water. Make them have thier own community if u will. If they fail to work together and become productive, they die. But unfortuantly our liberal gov would never let that happen. So in the mean time, i will have a gun next to my bed, and everyone can do what they want as long as it doesnt effect me or the ones around me.

 

[reza]

I think the segregation of races happening in prisons might influence a prisoner to take those same racist beliefs out in the real world again. I remember watching a documentary on cali prisons and they interviewed a white prisoner who was in for a white collar crime(computer fraud). With all the prison politics occuring he fell into the trap of hating blacks and hispanics.

 

[XxtraMannish]

our liberal gov would never let that happen. So in the mean time, i will have a gun next to my bed.

And the redneck of the year award goes to...


LMMFAO @ "our liberal government" are you kidding?

 

[Rob S4]

ROBS4,
I DOUBT THAT YOU WENT TO PRISON. MAYBE COUNTY JAIL. BUT YOU SOUND LIKE A WEENIE. JAIL DON'T DO SHIT BUT BREEDS AN INSTITUTIONALIZED MENTALITY. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE. PERSONALLY IT LEFT A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH AND MADE ME HATE THIS PUNK ASS SYSTEM EVEN MORE. JAIL DON'T DO SHIT BUT MAKES YOU A BETTER CRIMINAL. I AgREE WITH MERCIEDEZ.

Doubt whatever you want kid. Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself. I can tell your one of those ignorant cats that thinks gangbanging is still cool. Your probably 30 with a rap career that will never happen. It was a prison and I was in the county jail to. Keep your mouth closed you dont know shit about me.

 

[Jae iLL]

I think it all depends. Some people who 'slipped through the cracks' if you will, are incorrigible I think. However, a lot of times the courts sentence juveniles as adults and they end up in adult jails rather than juvenile facilities. Now, you send a teenager into a tank with a bunch of old, career criminals, do you think he's gonna come out rehabilitated or will he adapt to his environement? Personally, I've never been to prison (knock on wood) but I know two homeboys that did real prison time. A bunch of homies have done county lock up or whatever, but prison is the REAL breeding ground, with some exceptions.

Basically, it's the way the prison is run. It's just like the outside, except everything is intensified. The racist super cops, the gangs, etc etc.

 

[KleanKut]

And the redneck of the year award goes to...


LMMFAO @ "our liberal government" are you kidding?

Im not a fuckin redneck, however yes we do have a liberal stance on crime. Perhaps liberal gvt was the wrong phrase. But our country is very liberal when it comes to dealing out punishments to prisoners. Also try being on the board for more then a month before you start tryin to label me son.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Im not a fuckin redneck

I beg to differ:

Since ive been in iraq the last 7 months country music as seemed to grow on me.

however yes we do have a liberal stance on crime.

Then how come 15 year old boys can be sent to prison for life?

Perhaps liberal gvt was the wrong phrase. But our country is very liberal when it comes to dealing out punishments to prisoners.

Sure, I suppose locking up a man for 10, 15, 20 years is pretty "liberal", whatever the hell that means.

 

[m.w.merlino]

@KleanKut - Do you label everything you dont agree with "liberal"? Life must be pretty easy for you if things are that straight forward.

@2-0-Sixx - I don't fully understand how the government prospers from people in jail...could you help me out?

@Pino - I think the lack of compassion for most "criminals" and the lack of funding for actual rehabilitation is tied into the government making money off of prisoners. Seems like a logical hypothesis. Jail breeds criminals, its proven, so jail systems are NOT meant to rehabilitate.