wayne needs to get back on drugs DUDE FELL THE FUCK OFF!!

[Foul Mouth]

i dont know player. this board is partial to indies, its obvious. it doesnt make them any better than a major.

i listen to alot of underground artists. but them being underground doesnt automaticaly give them an extra 10 points. Waka Flocka, Rick Ross, Soulja Boy, and Chingy are wack in my opinion. but theres just as many terrible underground rappers. actually, more rappers are uderground than are major. your saying all the underground rappers are good?
of course evrybody has their taste in music and not every body will be on the exact same page. i just think mainstream artists get slammed because they're mainstream.

as far as "artist" and "rapper". it can go both ways. indie dont equal "artist". and when a major signed rapper has to adjust and make what the label wants, and is successful at doin that, isnt that being an "artist"? adapting and doing what you can with what your givin and making it successful? where you may have to think outside of the box, compared to an underground rapper who stays in his box and doesnt have to go out of his comfort area?

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

i dont hear him doin the Piru Love remix so the fake blood is irrelevent. he can be a fake dyke, its still irrelevent.

ghost writing, when (if) he had that, then he didnt write those songs. point blank. i doubt all his shit is ghost written. so everything that wasnt written by a ghost writer is as "fake" as every single rappers song.

rap music is fake people. its entertainment. a real ass OG who just escaped from prison can still write and record a fake song.

C-Bo is real as fuck...Free Style is not. neither is Deadly Game.

Drake was his ghost writer for years...thats no secret. I would not be out of the realm of reality to think he is still writing for Wayne.

 

[gimmefreemusic]

k everyone knows wayne went shit when mannie fresh stopped carrying the homo with his super beats..

carter 1 = fuckin great

everything after = fuckin terrible.

 

[Foul Mouth]

Drake was his ghost writer for years...thats no secret. I would not be out of the realm of reality to think he is still writing for Wayne.

i can see Drake writing for Wayne. Waynes style has switched so much through the years and started soundin like it is around the time Drake came in. Wayne, in my opinion, has always been a crap rapper until Carter III came out.


but regardless of who writes it, rather its Wayne, Drake, or X-Raided, rap is all fake. its a story. all this shit i read and hear through the years about rappers "reporting" from the streets is bullshit. its about money, "reporting" is just an excuse and a scapegoat to say they aint fake. underground or mainstream (yet mainstream is the devil). aint no one more real than the next. thats like which presidential candidate is less evil.

 

[AKAZIE]

speaking of Mannie Fresh, whats up wit dude?

 

[Roz]

i can see Drake writing for Wayne. Waynes style has switched so much through the years and started soundin like it is around the time Drake came in. Wayne, in my opinion, has always been a crap rapper until Carter III came out.


but regardless of who writes it, rather its Wayne, Drake, or X-Raided, rap is all fake. its a story. all this shit i read and hear through the years about rappers "reporting" from the streets is bullshit. its about money, "reporting" is just an excuse and a scapegoat to say they aint fake. underground or mainstream (yet mainstream is the devil). aint no one more real than the next. thats like which presidential candidate is less evil.

That might be true when it comes to "artists" who make tracks about making money, gettin' ho's, and reppin' 95% of the time.

 

[8FIVE8]

hey yo Roz. i see u from Independence. Are there any indoor swapmeets/flea markets in Kansas City? Me and my wife been looking for one over a year now. The only one i know that comes close is Gen X. I live in warrensburg btw

 

[Roz]

hey yo Roz. i see u from Independence. Are there any indoor swapmeets/flea markets in Kansas City? Me and my wife been looking for one over a year now. The only one i know that comes close is Gen X. I live in warrensburg btw

I'm in the southern part of the state, and never up in KC really. Ask someone in the Strange forum who lives up there cuz I'm in Tulsa more than Kansas City. Sorry breh.

 

[8FIVE8]

oh shit. my bad. i thought u were from independence near kansas city. lol

 

[D.I.R.B]

awhile back i thought he fell off then 'no ceilings' mixtape came out that shit was hard as fuck. 'sorry 4 the wait' was meh, a few good tracks but i was hoping for more. im hoping he can come back to old wayne tho. i think his problem might have been releasing too many songs. who knows. i dont think its drug related

gotta love lil wayne threads tho, u get opinions from across the board lol

 

[D.I.R.B]

c'mon..one of lil waynes lines from that 'im on one' song:

'all my niggas got the heat, i feel like pat riley' - made me LOL

 

[D.I.R.B]

k everyone knows wayne went shit when mannie fresh stopped carrying the homo with his super beats..

carter 1 = fuckin great

everything after = fuckin terrible.

wow trippin carter 2 = classic

 

[J.LOTTO]

k everyone knows wayne went shit when mannie fresh stopped carrying the homo with his super beats..

carter 1 = fuckin great

everything after = fuckin terrible.

I highly disagree man. Did u actually ever listen to carter 2. "Money on my mind" the 1st song on the cd? The nigga wayne was spittin. I seriously don't understand how u liked carter 1 but u think that he wasn't spittin on carter 2? His gangsta grillz mixtapes, the suffix mixtape all raw as fuck. Wayne has been murkin shyt lately, "hustle hard remix" for example. Like some1 said earlier in ths thread. Some ppl just dislike anything on a major. To each his own tho

 

[Darkshowdown]

. Like some1 said earlier in ths thread. Some ppl just dislike anything on a major. To each his own tho

I said that and its the truth. just look at some the shit posted on here muhfuckas will talk bad on a artist bc they mainstream(thats the whole point of being a rapper is to expand and increase) even if they album tight but they will dick ride some unknown or old washed up artist that just dropped a weak azz album. i guess some people on here are bias.

 

[Gas One]

i fuck with lil b but his verse on grove st party was the worst shit ive heard in years

that shit was worse than the need your love video

i just fast forwarded lil waynes verse and didnt even hear it

 

[LogHead116]

as far as "artist" and "rapper". it can go both ways. indie dont equal "artist". and when a major signed rapper has to adjust and make what the label wants, and is successful at doin that, isnt that being an "artist"? adapting and doing what you can with what your givin and making it successful? where you may have to think outside of the box, compared to an underground rapper who stays in his box and doesnt have to go out of his comfort area?

I disagree. First, i dont think success should be a measurement of artistry. I think an artist works from the heart, expresses themselves, is creative, and believes in what they do. Why would having a label tell you what to do and how to do it, while stripping you of your individuality and creativity make you an artist? Why does it matter if a rapper stays in his box or goes out of his comfort area? Because Dali didnt venture out of his comfort zone and paint impressionistic paintings makes him less of an artist? Because Ray Charles wasnt also a successful classical pianist detracts from his artistry?

 

[Foul Mouth]

I disagree. First, i dont think success should be a measurement of artistry. I think an artist works from the heart, expresses themselves, is creative, and believes in what they do. Why would having a label tell you what to do and how to do it, while stripping you of your individuality and creativity make you an artist? Why does it matter if a rapper stays in his box or goes out of his comfort area? Because Dali didnt venture out of his comfort zone and paint impressionistic paintings makes him less of an artist? Because Ray Charles wasnt also a successful classical pianist detracts from his artistry?

my point is an "artist" can be signed to a major. and the example i gave should make perfect sence unless you are anti-mainstream. everybody has this menatlity that you can be an artist, but once you get signed to a major you can no longer have the "artist" title. thats ridiculous. i felt that same way when i was 16. but now im 31 and i know better.

 

[Roz]

^ I think you totally missed what Loghead was talking about. He didn't say that a mainstream artist couldn't be an "artist", he was saying that a real artist stays true to who they are. This is something that has distorted music, and taken away from it IMO. Money, and personal gain, is coming before artistic expression.

 

[Foul Mouth]

^

yeah i get that part. and yeah when your on a major you may have to make what the label wants. my point is a good "artist" can adapt to that. instead of knockin that artist for doin what he's told, look at it like this dude is able to make it work. music is music. it goes through your ears and is supposed to be enjoyed that way. Kid Rock is an example of a good artist. he's gone through many genres and has been successful at each, not that success has to be a measurement of artistry as Loghead pointed out, im just throwin that out there cus success is a measurement on how good you are doing your job, that cant be debated. so, Kid Rock is a success at every genere he has touched, he doesnt have to use the same brush and same canvas and same textures to create his art. and he doesnt have to be underground.

theres alot of music out there that might not be what the artist wanted to do. it doesnt make that music crap. him not doing what he wanted is a personal issue that has nothing to do with the music entering your ear canal. that artist coulda make something he put his heart into and can very well be crap.

your right about money and personal gain, but thats what business is. if your making music to sell, your tryna make money.

 

[Roz]

^

yeah i get that part. and yeah when your on a major you may have to make what the label wants. my point is a good "artist" can adapt to that. instead of knockin that artist for doin what he's told, look at it like this dude is able to make it work. music is music. it goes through your ears and is supposed to be enjoyed that way. Kid Rock is an example of a good artist. he's gone through many genres and has been successful at each, not that success has to be a measurement of artistry as Loghead pointed out, im just throwin that out there cus success is a measurement on how good you are doing your job, that cant be debated. so, Kid Rock is a success at every genere he has touched, he doesnt have to use the same brush and same canvas and same textures to create his art. and he doesnt have to be underground.

theres alot of music out there that might not be what the artist wanted to do. it doesnt make that music crap. him not doing what he wanted is a personal issue that has nothing to do with the music entering your ear canal. that artist coulda make something he put his heart into and can very well be crap.

your right about money and personal gain, but thats what business is. if your making music to sell, your tryna make money.

You really want to use Kid Rock as an example? lol Come on now. Honestly I've already stated my points in this, so if you want to continue talking to yourself, go ahead. :cheeky: