Valedictorian Speaks Out Against Schooling

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Dec 2, 2006
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^^^ I think that is a key question, are we being intentionally sidetracked in a methodical fashion, or is this just how the pieces have fallen? I think the way we anwer this question determines substantially how we relate to the system and our attitude towards it.
I think when you look at society and the foundation it was built on, the creation of law and order was a methodical approach by a group of individuals seeking control of a geographical region. We are unconciously being side tracked to serve someone's interest. If not, we would still be living off the land and I mean in a caveman sort of way.lol

When you think about it, we are like robots and becoming more so everyday. It is quite sickening actually.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Becoming Valedictorian must not have required top performance in speech class. I stopped after maybe a minute because I couldn't stand to hear her stumble over her own speech anymore. And holy fucking monotone. I'd maybe have taken this more seriously if it was spoken with some passion.


 
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i wish you wouldnt selectively quote what i am saying.
i know i also did that with you in the beginning but as this gets longer and longer i feel like i have already answered some of your inquiries in past replies while you are taking my replies out of context and ask the same question all over again.

I feel you. I don't like doing that all the time, but sometime I feel it's easier to read instead of large chunks of words, but yeah, it takes things out of context when some things need to be read as part of a whole.


Here's my thing about what she said. She sounds naive because at that age I was very susceptible to whatever new idea someone gave me. Only through experiencing things on your own can you have a better grasp on these concepts and whether or not they work. When your that young you're very susceptible to new ideas, especially when you spent the previous 4-6 years just trying to figure out who you are.

Everything in life is going to have it's pros and cons. Capitalism, Anarchy, Communism, Socialism, work, art, dedication, aloofness, whatever.

Some great writers, artists, etc can balance success and financial security. Some can't. Some people can be happy having a corporate job and being financially secure so that they can persue other interests like starting a family. Some aren't happy with their corporate job because they view their career as the ultimate form of fullfillment.

I've been in her shoes and I too had a very naive point of view of what creative people are like. Her criticisms on repetition and work strike me as ignornat, especially when it comes to things like art and writing, which repetition and work is very much a part of.

I'm going by the contents of her speech, not assumptions of what her family life was like, what her teachers said, etc. Again, most high schools have art, music, and writing as part of the curriculum.

Any kind of teacher you have, it can be viewed as some kind of indocrination process. You can pretty much criticize anything, and deconstruct it, split it up into it's basic components till it's unrecognizable, philosophize on it, etc, till whenever. But in the mean time, some people want to get shit done, and it's up to you what you want to do with your life, and you only get one chance.

It's very rare when people enjoy the rigorous processes that it takes to be great at anything. It's only after having learned them, and being able to either reap the benefits or able to execute some kind of feat do you look back at those times with appreciation. Repetition and work is part of becoming a great anything.

I just don't feel an 18 year old has that much experience to offer a valid criticism of the school system, especially going from what she said.
 
Apr 2, 2010
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Has she been executed or had her Diploma stripped away? Theres no way in hell the school board would accept that without repercussions.

For everyone criticizing what she said either because you have been completely fooled and let leaders form your world for you, or you just can't understand the reasoning behind this here is a few things to keep in mind.

1. The main focus of the speech was aimed at being subjected to follow whatever is put in front of us and accept it as truth. The mind of a child is fragile but very observant, it cannot grow to its full potential when its molded with the same rhetoric everyday. Much like work you follow guidelines and deadlines everyday, doing the same exact procedures daily. Hence, the term worker bees mentioned in the speech. Once kids reach adulthood thats all they know and grew up on, which is why kids are no longer challenged or have the freedom to choose what they learn because they need workers, not leaders.

2. To top it off everything we read in history books is carefully revised and detailed with opinions, to compensate for the typical american patriotic bullshit. Everyone grows up thinking America is the greatest country in the world and every minority/3rd world country is absolute shit as they get ready to enlist into the military to pop some "ragheads" (excuse my english) because they are in debted to this nation. History does repeat itself and there is no good guys in war, although our history books may tell us differently.

3. I am glad that college encourages the freedom to learn from a wide variety of subjects however, but how many people make it into college after the few scholarships are handed out? Most will move onto being the robotic-like workers and it makes you wonder why college isn't fully funded or supported.. (back to 1)