Unarmed Teen Shot To Death By Police In St. Louis While His Hands Were Up

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Rossibreath

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I think i got pulled over cuz a cop thought I was black one day. I was coming home from the Cubs game with my ho and her niece. I have a black Chrysler 300 with really tinted windows and 20s on that bitch lol. I had my hat on backwards. A cop was taking radar at the bottom of the exit. I stopped at the stop sign and turned right towards the gas station. A few miles down the road I looked in my rear view and saw him flying up behind me with his lights on and I thought, what the fuck? I didn't do anything wrong what so ever. I pulled over and he came up to my car and said, oh sorry I see you're not a trouble maker, I pulled you over cuz your window tint is almost illegal and you don't have a front license plate. Then he told me to be careful when I drink and drive cuz i could get pulled over for that shit and get a DUI. Then he left. I kept thinking what the fuck that was so weird. The cop was weird as fuck. Me and my ho decided he thought we were black lol. Cool story bro.
 
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I think i got pulled over cuz a cop thought I was black one day. I was coming home from the Cubs game with my ho and her niece. I have a black Chrysler 300 with really tinted windows and 20s on that bitch lol. I had my hat on backwards. A cop was taking radar at the bottom of the exit. I stopped at the stop sign and turned right towards the gas station. A few miles down the road I looked in my rear view and saw him flying up behind me with his lights on and I thought, what the fuck? I didn't do anything wrong what so ever. I pulled over and he came up to my car and said, oh sorry I see you're not a trouble maker, I pulled you over cuz your window tint is almost illegal and you don't have a front license plate. Then he told me to be careful when I drink and drive cuz i could get pulled over for that shit and get a DUI. Then he left. I kept thinking what the fuck that was so weird. The cop was weird as fuck. Me and my ho decided he thought we were black lol. Cool story bro.
white privilege...and blatant racism.
 
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i agree. but the difference for me is that i do not let it stop my drive. i dont make excuses.
good example. my gfs name is tamieka. she applied for a job user her name and her middle name which is renee. same exact resume, submitted within minutes of each other. she got a rejection email for tamieka for a phone call for her renee application and resume. shit like this. but again do i complain? no not at all. i just know as a black man i have a disadvantage due to my skin color i just have to make it so i do not come off as the stereotype that some people think we are. imo.
Well the Chinese change their names for jobs. Nobody is hiring Xin Teng Zhang, but they will hire Steven Zhang.

TBH I look at the resume and check the credentials. If I like what I see I will make a call regardless of the name. If the person speaks in broken English or ebonics, I will end the call and move on to the next.

If you want to work in the corporate world, you need to speak like Russel Wilson, sorry, but the corporations don't hire rappers unless it's a record company.
 
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Everyone has talent? What about the differences in aptitude? What about an infrastructure that has the resources to nourish one persons talent while another talented individual falls by the wayside. And while I agree with not living up to what is seen on t.v., you're still marketed to via the internet. radio and other things. A cat you see on a daily basis, hammer on is side, mounts on his fingers, flipped whip and a fine beezy is going to have more impact then the tv because you can actually SEE this person and, in some cases, relate to him because he came from the same place you did.

So it's not all about tv and marketing.

Some people try too hard to be people they arent, and it fucks with them when they cant live up to the standards they are force fed everyday on t.v.Not everyone can be a baller bro. Live within your means. Too many people want to be the rich and famous, even though those are the same people who are trying to bring the poor and middle class down for their own agenga, i.e. staying rich.


What the hell is voting going to do?

This country is not a democracy or republic. So you punched a hole in a piece of cardboard or checked off a name/box. Big deal. Bombs still drop. Legislations and statutes still pass. Your money is still misappropriated. Scandals still happen. Pick your poison and swallow it with a smile on your face, right?

If enough people get together and vote for the same change, something good will happen. This is a democracy, but too many people are uneducated and have no idea about these things. Its part of the rich mans plan to keep us in the dark, so he can keep eating off us.

So why were you called a nigger and, as you put it, disowned by your race?

Maybe its the way i talked, walked or the people i chose to surround myself with. I hung out with people who i shared a common ground with. Color didnt matter to me at all. Its puzzled me for years. Imagine being a 10 year old white kid and your own grandmother calling you that. And knowing that word was so full of hatred.

I'm in Cali, the bay area. If you were to go into a bank and apply for a business loan, you would be more likely to get it. You ever had your job application tossed because your name was Tyrone, Leroy or LaShonda? Having a child by a black woman has caused you to not be hired? Not be approved for a home loan? Yes? No?

Im also from Cali, Sacramento. I get looked at very strange when i walk into a bank because ive accumulated alot of tattoos over my 28 years. Some are in noticeable areas. Basically, i get treated like an ex con everywhere i go. I hear the word "No" waaay more than alot of my white peers.


This "I can do it it anyone can" mentality is not supported by sectors of education that deal with what we're talking about here. There has to be a infrastructure in place. There has to be resources available. There has to be knowledge of the resources and their has to be people willing to provide the resources without ostracizing those who need them.

And this knowledge is somehow being withheld? Do some research.

But you went from being a homeless child and the very bottom of society to the top, without anyone's help or assistance right?

I never claimed to be on the top. I dont own a home,
But im getting there through hard work. Ive been living within my means, supporting my kid, and that feels wonderful. Ive been on my own since i was 16. Sure a few people have helped me, but only after i proved i was worth helping.

So now it's "mostly anything is attainable?" This contradicts science, sociology, psychiatry and psychology. Would you like to discuss social mobility and how the numbers don't support your claim?

Im not going to argue semantics with you, but anyone can make a good life for themselves and get educated. Maybe we cant time travel, cure aids, or live forever just yet. But we all have an opportunity to live a prosperous life. But you gotta go get it. Its never given for free unless you are a trust fund kid.

See above. You're contradicting areas of education that absolutely refute your claim time and time again.

Are you saying that if you wanted to learn something and became sufficient at it, you would be denied, just because of the color of your skin? Again spare me this drivel, the president is black. If you follow the proper channels, anything can be attained.

Chances are what? 1 in 1,000,000? 1 in 789,788,666,123,456,789? Again, what about the people who stay cool around the police and don't act like a moron?

Unless you are acting violent and crazy, you arent going to get shot. Simple as that. If it happens, the cop shouldnt be a cop in the first place. Again, the working man and his taxes fund these cops paychecks and its up to us to vote for stricter regulations on who becomes a cop.

And if you are able to vote? Again, how is voting going to change anything when we live in a place that is neither a democracy or a republic? We are a plutocracy, hegemony, oligarchy and corporatocracy all neatly packaged and spoon fed to people who actually believe that voting works.

Change comes in numbers. If we truely want change, the people will rally together to make the change happen. If enough people are sick of the constant corruption, its up to us to make it different. Educate your fellow man and get them out of the dark.


These are the only things that constitute slavery? In any case, a see many people that are mentally, emotionally and spiritually in bondage. I see many of people being beaten by the police and dehumanized by them. But, in your world, where anyone can come up, these things are totally nonexistent and all it takes is belief, hard work and dedication, not to mention not acting like a moron, and everything will be fine.

In my world? The one where i literally was a slave? Where i was told when to wake up and when to eat? Constantly harassed by police? You mean that world? Ive seen it firsthand brother. Its fucked. But you can rise above it. I did, and if people have the right mindstate, they can too. Its not impossible to better yourself. Its hard, but its better than that fucking hellhole.


So when the people at the top break the rules and are not held accountable for them then what? We do NOT have a democracy for a government. We are a plutocracy, hegemony, oligarchy and corporatocracy

In our country, anyone abusing power can be overthrown. Does Richard Nixon ring a bell?

I won't spare you shit just give it to you straight.

I appreciate the debate.

Who is holding a defeatest attitude? I'm holding a realist attitude that is supported by reality and not some pipe dream lie that I accepted because I need something to tickle my ears. So you went from being a felon to a college student. Great. Did you do it on your own or did you have people supporting you and helping you along the way? Were you able to get resources? Did someone believe in you enough to give you a chance?

So many poor, disenfranchised people do. Its sad because they have been led to believe this, over the years. And its engrained so deep in the African American psyche. When really, you gotta let that shit go. Anyone can do well in life, if they fight for it. But yeah, give up and blame others for your problems, youre going to fail everytime.

It is FOOLISH to believe that anyone can make it, because, in reality, not everyone is going to make it. Ask any person who did their due diligence, had a bp, developed a SWOT, tried to raise incestment capital and never could only to have some other guy do the exact same thing, raise the money and make millions.

It is survival of the fittest unfortunately. Dont be a quitter. Get educated. Even the odds. Overcome. Persevere.

But hey, if you just beleeb den ebrythang will happen.

I think, therefore I am.
 
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Darren Wilson says he's sorry but conscience is clear - CNN.com

(CNN) -- Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, in his first interview since the fatal shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown, told ABC News Tuesday that he's not tormented by that fateful encounter in suburban St. Louis last summer.

"I don't think it's haunting," Wilson said. "It's always going to be something that happened. The reason I have a clean conscience is that I know I did my job right."
Wilson: Wouldn't matter if Brown was white
Dorian Johnson: 'Hurt' by no indictment
What's next in Ferguson?

Repeating what he told a grand jury investigating the shooting, Wilson said Brown reached into his police vehicle and grabbed for his gun.

Wilson said he feared for his life.

Wilson told ABC's George Stephanopoulos he asked the teenager to move out of the center of the street. Brown walked over to his car and pushed the door back as Wilson tried to get out, the officer said.

"As I looked back at him, punches started flying," Wilson said in the interview, which aired Tuesday night. "He threw the first one and hit me in the left side of my face."

Wilson said he didn't know how many times he got hit.

"I just know there was a barrage of swinging and grabbing and pulling for about 10 seconds," Wilson told ABC. "I reached out my window with my right hand to grab on to his forearm."

Wilson said he wanted to move Brown away.

"I just felt the immense power that he had. And then the way I've described it is, it was like a 5-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan. That's just how big this man was," Wilson said. "He was very large, very powerful man."

Wilson is 6-foot-4 and 210 pounds; Brown was the same height and weighed nearly 300 pounds.

Brown unleashed another punch and struck the officer in his face, Wilson said.

"How do I survive," Wilson recalled thinking. "I didn't know if I'd be able to survive another hit like that."

Wilson reached for his gun and told Brown to back off or he would shoot, the officer said.
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"You're too much of a (bleeped) to shoot me," Wilson claimed Brown told him before grabbing the top of the officer's gun.

Wilson tried to squeeze off two shots but the gun jammed twice.

Brown, he said, tried to reach the trigger guard to shot Wilson. Wilson got a shot off on his third attempt, he said.

"He gets even angrier," Wilson said. "His aggression, his face, the intensity just increases. He comes back in at me again."

There was another shot, Wilson told ABC. The officer gets out of his car and goes after Brown, who turns around from 30 to 40 feet away.

Wilson said Brown reached into his waistband with one hand and made a fist with the other.

"He starts charging me," Wilson said in the interview. "My initial thought was, is there a weapon in there."

Wilson said Brown never had his hands up as if to surrender.

Brown charged at Wilson, the officer said.

"I decide to shoot," he said "I fired a series of shots and paused. I noticed at least one of them hit him. I don't know where. I saw his body kind of flinch a little."

Wilson said he paused again and commanded Brown to stop.

Brown kept coming. Wilson said he fired again and Brown flinched as if hit.

With Brown just 15 feet away, Wilson said, he backpedaled. Brown got closer and positioned himself to tackle the officer, according to Wilson, who then shot the teenager in the top of he head.

Wilson told ABC that he was sorry for the loss of life but that he was simply doing his job and following his training.

Wilson said he recently married.

"We just want to have a normal life," he told ABC. "That's it."

The death of Brown sparked violent demonstrations in the days after the shooting and again on Monday night, when it was announced that a Missouri grand jury would not charge Wilson.

In the hour-long interview, Wilson said he could not have done anything differently.

Asked if the incident would have turned out differently if Michael Brown had been white, Wilson said no.

What's next for Wilson?

Wilson, 28, spent six years with the Ferguson police department before being placed on administrative leave following the shooting. Wilson worked for two years at another police department before that.

Wilson remains on leave, pending the outcome of an internal investigation, Ferguson Mayor James Knowles told reporters Tuesday.

"No decision has been made," Knowles said. "His current employment status has not changed."

Last week, people close to the talks told CNN that the officer was in the final stages of negotiations with city officials to resign from the police department.

Wilson has told associates he would resign as a way to help ease pressure and protect his fellow officers.

The United States Justice Department is also investigating whether Wilson violated Brown's civil rights.

In newly released transcripts of testimony that the grand jury heard while considering whether to bring charges in Brown's death, Wilson told the jurors that he had never fired his gun on duty before that day.

Wilson told the grand jury his original goal was to arrest Brown, after identifying him as a possible suspect in a shop theft.

Wilson fired 12 shots, according to the grand jury proceedings.

The officer told the St. Louis County grand jury that two shots were fired during a struggle at his police vehicle and that he then fired three bursts of gunfire as he chased and later backed away from Brown. He testified that his Sig Sauer .40-caliber gun held a maximum of 13 bullets.

Wilson quietly married a fellow officer