UFC on FOX 4: Shogun vs. Vera 8/4/12

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Jan 18, 2006
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Ur right about the gassing thing but to me the kicker is that Shogun beat the shit outta Machida twice. Machida is definitely a decent fighter but he doesn't have what it takes to be at the top. Sure he beat Evans for the belt but hes been hit or miss ever since. Shogun has proven he has what it takes with one of the best resumes ever. That wasn't the real Shogun that fought Jon Jones that first time.
 
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Ur right about the gassing thing but to me the kicker is that Shogun beat the shit outta Machida twice. Machida is definitely a decent fighter but he doesn't have what it takes to be at the top. Sure he beat Evans for the belt but hes been hit or miss ever since. Shogun has proven he has what it takes with one of the best resumes ever. That wasn't the real Shogun that fought Jon Jones that first time.
you of all people should know it's about matchups. Machida knocked out Rashad and handled him with ease. since jones didnt does that make Machida better? matchup wise i think machida has the best shot to beat him without a lucky shot. he was fighting great in the 1st fight and winning until he got real cocky in the 2nd and strayed away from his game plan and got caught.

Fact is neither of them really deserve the shot, the only guy that does is gustufvson or whatever and he doesnt sell tickets. most the other fighters are saying publically they want nothing to do with jones either. I just feel Machida has looked better then Shogun has lately and i feel it's the better matchup. Jones will wear out shogun again and it would only be a repeat. Machida IMO has a chance.


Or Hendo lands the left and I shit my pants hahaha
 

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I hate seeing Shogun gas in 3 minutes now but it's still kinda funny since you can't knock him out so he's just gonna stand there in front of everyone with his hands at his waist trying to kill them. Have him fight Rashad or Gustafsson
 
Feb 12, 2004
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IMO both Shogun and Vera looked horrible. Both were gassed going into the 2nd round and I don't know why. 2 dudes that shouldn't even be in the conversation for a title shot and this is coming from a Shogun fan.
 

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Yo bigface u must be disappointed that Machida stole the show and knocked Bader the fuck out! Haha. Machida looked great and I think he will give Jones a run for his money next time out. Got Em!!
 
Dec 12, 2006
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UFC would make Jon Jones fight a black bear if they could cause they have no one left, that whole best fight publicity stunt was really dumb why not just have more catch-weight fights, Machida did look good n hes got good counters but I think Jones reach cancels that out

Im no fighter and I hate running but I dont understand how Shogun can get gassed so quickly, it wasnt obvious but he was tired in round 2, your a fighter, thats what you do to feed your family how do you not have enough time to run your ass off
 
Dec 9, 2005
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Great card, top to bottom.


I know the UFC makes their bread & butter on PPV's...but these free cards that deliver are like money in the bank.


It's still kinda weird hearing the NFL on Fox song play during UFC cards. lol
 
Nov 7, 2006
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btw, did anyone else spend the main event praying vera would randomly hit a brutal KO on shogun? lol
Sort of. I just wanted to see the old Brandon. the Brandon before he had all that legal shit. Everyone was saying he showed up in the shogun fight but i just think shogun is slowing down. they both werent impressive at all to me and the thing that saved the fight was the knockout.
 

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SHOGUN DID LOOK LIKE SHIT...BUT I GIVE SHOGUN CREDIT...WHEN HE LEFT PRIDE AND THEIR RULES, I DIDNT THINK HE WAS GONNA BE ALL THAT GREAT.

HE'S FARED WELL WITHOUT HIS BREAD AND BUTTER SOCCER KICKS AND STOMPS
 
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SHOGUN DID LOOK LIKE SHIT...BUT I GIVE SHOGUN CREDIT...WHEN HE LEFT PRIDE AND THEIR RULES, I DIDNT THINK HE WAS GONNA BE ALL THAT GREAT.

HE'S FARED WELL WITHOUT HIS BREAD AND BUTTER SOCCER KICKS AND STOMPS
Yeah him gassing out don't really matter when he has heart mixed with an iron chin and KO power in both hands. That's twice now just in the UFC that he's been completely gassed late in a fight and still had power to put his opponent to sleep.

That's a deadly fighter when a gassed out version of him is better than most fighters lol