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what it boils down to this is a fan driven sport, judging by the boos in the crowd and the mass majority of internet fans not digging the way Condit fought he probably just lost a ton of fans. Remember when GSP was loved by all and now is hated by many? Remember when Anderson Silva the GOAT went through a spell of getting booed and had to come back and get some spectacular wins to win the fans back?

It's the Jon Fitch syndrome, Jon Fitch wins a ton of fights and has to defend his fighting style every single time he has an interview or press conference. I guess to Carlos Condit he reached that state in the game. It kinda feels like he "sold out", maybe not the right term to use, but you get the drift. Hopefully he reverts back to his old "Natural Born Killer" style of fighting, but unfortunately I think his fight against GSP will be boring as hell.
 
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what it boils down to this is a fan driven sport, judging by the boos in the crowd and the mass majority of internet fans not digging the way Condit fought he probably just lost a ton of fans. Remember when GSP was loved by all and now is hated by many? Remember when Anderson Silva the GOAT went through a spell of getting booed and had to come back and get some spectacular wins to win the fans back?

It's the Jon Fitch syndrome, Jon Fitch wins a ton of fights and has to defend his fighting style every single time he has an interview or press conference. I guess to Carlos Condit he reached that state in the game. It kinda feels like he "sold out", maybe not the right term to use, but you get the drift. Hopefully he reverts back to his old "Natural Born Killer" style of fighting, but unfortunately I think his fight against GSP will be boring as hell.
I feel ya, I'm not a fan of lay n pray shit, blanketing shit. Greg Jaccson is known for that. But I feel this is one of the ONLY ways to win over Diaz. Like I said, he wasn't "runnin" til he got to the fence. Damn near NOBODY wins a fist fight wit Diaz when he got u against the cage.
 

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I'm not buying any PPVs anymore.

I know I seem like a butthurt Diaz fan right now, but I've been saying this for a long time. I don't want to watch point fighting, I want to watch fighting. And you know the sport has reached its tipping point when you can make a boring fight with the most exciting fighter alive.

1. MMA has no consistent judging. What's the point in watching a fight if you know more than the people in charge of it?
2. MMA has no consistent refereeing. What's the point in watching a fight when there's 0 consistency? My favorite ref is Dan Miragliotta, because he's so incompetent that fights have a chance to play out the way they should be. Herb Dean was voted best ref I don't know how many times and he's fucking awful.
3. You can win fights by not fighting. Facing a striker? Clinch and hang onto him as long as you can until the round's over, or take him down and hold him on the ground as long as you can. Facing a ground fighter? Clinch and hang onto him as long as you can until the round's over. Or circle away whenever he comes forward because "The Octagon" is designed to leave no advantage, because there's no cornering a fighter.

I know on The Sicc most of us are streaming anyways, but for any of you other guys that do pay for fights, I'm calling for a boycott until they fix this shit. I'm sick and tired of all the bullshit and I know the rest of us are too. If I said this exact post to Dana White's face he would call me a faggot and a liar and I'm hoping soon everyone will say "No, he's right."
 
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Bro, first of all the whole getting points for kicking someone is bullshit what about the punching an when diaz was on top? he didnt score shit for those? Really? felt like i was watching a fucking GSP fight or even a Jon Fitch B Buzz is right 100% Dana white will lose money not having Diaz fight GSP no1 is willing to throw money down for that fight unless theres a nice CO Main event
 
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I know I wouldn't tell him to hit 1 or 2 shots then run a half circle around the cage....

there's a difference between angles and actual cage circling vs. turning and running around
Yea, maybe ONCE or TWICE he mighta turned around, but for the MOST part he WAS cuttin angles. And u ARE sposed to combo then angle out. Maybe u need a new school?
 
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Condit won the match but Diaz won the fight.
Close one. Condit fought like a pussy. Diaz wanted to throw down til someone dropped.
 
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I'm not buying any PPVs anymore.

I know I seem like a butthurt Diaz fan right now, but I've been saying this for a long time. I don't want to watch point fighting, I want to watch fighting. And you know the sport has reached its tipping point when you can make a boring fight with the most exciting fighter alive.

1. MMA has no consistent judging. What's the point in watching a fight if you know more than the people in charge of it?
2. MMA has no consistent refereeing. What's the point in watching a fight when there's 0 consistency? My favorite ref is Dan Miragliotta, because he's so incompetent that fights have a chance to play out the way they should be. Herb Dean was voted best ref I don't know how many times and he's fucking awful.
3. You can win fights by not fighting. Facing a striker? Clinch and hang onto him as long as you can until the round's over, or take him down and hold him on the ground as long as you can. Facing a ground fighter? Clinch and hang onto him as long as you can until the round's over. Or circle away whenever he comes forward because "The Octagon" is designed to leave no advantage, because there's no cornering a fighter.

I know on The Sicc most of us are streaming anyways, but for any of you other guys that do pay for fights, I'm calling for a boycott until they fix this shit. I'm sick and tired of all the bullshit and I know the rest of us are too. If I said this exact post to Dana White's face he would call me a faggot and a liar and I'm hoping soon everyone will say "No, he's right."
I agree with a lot of that, it just sucks there ain't really shit the UFC can do about it. The Athletic Commissions decide who the judges and the refs will be for each show, even when they go oversees, Mark Ratner who works for the UFC stills asks Nevada to supply judges and refs for their shows.

Dana White is known to trash judges and refs when they fuck up, he even trashed Kim Winslow tonight cause he thought Chris Cope was stopped late.

MMA is such a young sport that is booming so fast without really being 100% established. We're about to be stuck in a trend of non-consistency for a long time I think.