UFC 125: Resolution
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I can see if someone wants to score it 10-8. I meant more that Rogan needs to stfu after fights with his opinions because people who aren't really sure about all the ins and outs will instinctively repeat what Rogan says to seem like they do. ex.- "Belcher got screwed against Akiyama!"
But also I don't really agree with giving 10-8's out until someone from the athletic commissions defines what one is. Does the opponent lose a point every time they're knocked down like boxing? Can you get a 10-8 in a ground fight? What has to be done on the ground to determine how dominant the fighter is? 20 takedowns? 10 submission attempts?
If someone comes out and says "Carwin vs. Lensar was a 10-8 round. Soto vs. Warren was 10-8. Hendricks vs. Funch was a 10-7 round. Maynard vs. Frankie was 10-8...." I'd be fine with it, but no one really knows wtf a 10-8 round is supposed to look like.
But also I don't really agree with giving 10-8's out until someone from the athletic commissions defines what one is. Does the opponent lose a point every time they're knocked down like boxing? Can you get a 10-8 in a ground fight? What has to be done on the ground to determine how dominant the fighter is? 20 takedowns? 10 submission attempts?
If someone comes out and says "Carwin vs. Lensar was a 10-8 round. Soto vs. Warren was 10-8. Hendricks vs. Funch was a 10-7 round. Maynard vs. Frankie was 10-8...." I'd be fine with it, but no one really knows wtf a 10-8 round is supposed to look like.
Yeah but Maynard landed 88 to Edgars 22 and he also knocked him down 3 times from punches and had a successful takedown. Not sure how much more dominate he could have been. I think a 10-8 is justified.
I do agree though that the lines for what is to be considered a 10-8 or 10-9 or whatever are blurry. I Still cannot believe that there is not a special MMA class for judges/refs. There should be at least a week long class that should be a requirement for any MMA judge.
I do agree though that the lines for what is to be considered a 10-8 or 10-9 or whatever are blurry. I Still cannot believe that there is not a special MMA class for judges/refs. There should be at least a week long class that should be a requirement for any MMA judge.
Man, B-Buzz...I couldn't agree more about that. I was just thinking about that the other day. Joe knows his stuff, but I think he offers his opinion a little bit too much...and let's his emotions control what he says. We don't really need that from a commentator.
As far as the 10-8 round goes...I think it would be difficult to give it specific criteria in MMA, but when a guy is thoroughly dominated and nearly finished in a round that he survives, I think a 10-8 is fair.
Without getting too detailed as far as a specific number of knockdowns, or submission attempts...I think its safe to say that until the judges are more familiar with grappling and the technicalities of it....we won't see anyone winning a 10-8 round on the ground too often. Just like you will hardly ever see a guy winning a round off of his back, even when he deserved to win it.
As far as the 10-8 round goes...I think it would be difficult to give it specific criteria in MMA, but when a guy is thoroughly dominated and nearly finished in a round that he survives, I think a 10-8 is fair.
Without getting too detailed as far as a specific number of knockdowns, or submission attempts...I think its safe to say that until the judges are more familiar with grappling and the technicalities of it....we won't see anyone winning a 10-8 round on the ground too often. Just like you will hardly ever see a guy winning a round off of his back, even when he deserved to win it.
THE SCORING IS WACK...I HATE HOW FIGHTERS BEEN GETTING TAKEDOWNS FOR POINTS AND BE DOING THOSE LIL DRAMATIC HAMMER BLOWS TO TRY TO END A FIGHT...
I THINK IF A FIGHTER GETS A TAKEDOWN BUT CANT DO ANY KIND OF DAMAGE...THROUGH SUB ATTEMPTS OR STRIKING...AND HIS OPPONENT IS ABLE TO LAUNCH AN OFFENSE OR GETS BACK TO HIS FEET AFTER THE TAKEDOWN. IT SHOULDNT COUNT OR SHOULD BE GIVEN AN EQUAL POINT FOR COUNTERING THE TAKEDOWN.
MMA SCORING IS SO INCONSISTENT...
THE DAYS OF A FIGHTER, LAYING AND PRAYING HAVE STOPPED.
BUT NOW THE FIGHTS ARE BAD STAND UP FIGHTS.
I REALLY CANT STAND THIS ERA IN MMA RIGHT NOW, THESE GUYS LOOK PRETTY BAD ON THEIR FEET...SET ASIDE FROM ANDERSON AND A FEW OTHERS...
THATS WHAT WAS SO RAW ABOUT VALE TUDO, NHB, PRIDE RULES. WAS ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
I KNOW USING THE RULES AND BEING SAVVY DURING A MATCH IS A MUST HAVE...
BUT I WANT TO SEE A DECISIVE END...WITH SO MANY WAYS TO END A FIGHT...I STILL FIND IT HARD TO SEE HOW AN MMA MATCH ENDS IN A DRAW.
I THINK IF A FIGHTER GETS A TAKEDOWN BUT CANT DO ANY KIND OF DAMAGE...THROUGH SUB ATTEMPTS OR STRIKING...AND HIS OPPONENT IS ABLE TO LAUNCH AN OFFENSE OR GETS BACK TO HIS FEET AFTER THE TAKEDOWN. IT SHOULDNT COUNT OR SHOULD BE GIVEN AN EQUAL POINT FOR COUNTERING THE TAKEDOWN.
MMA SCORING IS SO INCONSISTENT...
THE DAYS OF A FIGHTER, LAYING AND PRAYING HAVE STOPPED.
BUT NOW THE FIGHTS ARE BAD STAND UP FIGHTS.
I REALLY CANT STAND THIS ERA IN MMA RIGHT NOW, THESE GUYS LOOK PRETTY BAD ON THEIR FEET...SET ASIDE FROM ANDERSON AND A FEW OTHERS...
THATS WHAT WAS SO RAW ABOUT VALE TUDO, NHB, PRIDE RULES. WAS ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
I KNOW USING THE RULES AND BEING SAVVY DURING A MATCH IS A MUST HAVE...
BUT I WANT TO SEE A DECISIVE END...WITH SO MANY WAYS TO END A FIGHT...I STILL FIND IT HARD TO SEE HOW AN MMA MATCH ENDS IN A DRAW.
All three judges scored that first round a 10-8..
The scoring was 48-46 Maynard (10-8 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Maynard) 48-46 Edgar (10-8 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar) 47-47 Draw (10-8 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar)
I scored it 47-47 but think any of the scores could be justified, and it was a worthy draw.
The scoring was 48-46 Maynard (10-8 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Maynard) 48-46 Edgar (10-8 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar) 47-47 Draw (10-8 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Maynard, 10-9 Edgar, 10-9 Edgar)
I scored it 47-47 but think any of the scores could be justified, and it was a worthy draw.
Most UFC 125 drug tests come back clean, though one sample "still processing"
Fourteen of the 15 fighters who underwent drug testing at January's UFC 125 event tested clean for performance-enhancing drugs and recreational/drugs of abuse.
However, one unnamed contestant's sample has yet to be cleared.
Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer today e-mailed the drug-testing results to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), and he noted that the commission is "still processing another athlete's urine sample from that event."
UFC 125 took place Jan. 1 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. UFC lightweight champ Frankie Edgar battled back from near-certain to defeat to earn a draw with Gray Maynard in the main event.
The NSAC tested both Edgar and Maynard, as well as Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Brandon Vera, Phil Baroni, Brad Tavares, Jeremy Stephens, Dustin Poirier, Diego Nunes, Daniel Roberts, Jacon Volkmann, Dong Hyun Kim and Clay Guida. Those test results were all declared negative.
As MMAjunkie.com reported earlier today, Kizer confirmed that main-card winner Thiago Silva also submitted a pre-fight drug screen at UFC 125, which indicates the outstanding drug test likely belongs to the Brazilian slugger. However, Kizer was unable to confirm that Silva's specimen was the sample that was "still processing," or what that status might indicate.
Silva had been expected to face Quinton "Rampage" Jackson at May's UFC 130 event, though the Brazilian's status was recently brought into question when reports surfaced that the UFC was seeking a replacement opponent for Jackson. Silva has insisted he is uninjured and ready to compete in the event, leaving some confusion as to the reason for his potential withdrawal.
All athletes were tested for drugs of abuse (such as marijuana and cocaine), as well as anabolic steroids and other performance-enhancers.
The NSAC traditionally tests both main-card fighters, all winning fighters and any competitors who previously failed drug tests. However, some of the testing remains random, and all fighters are subject to it.
most likely silvas test and prolly why he back out the fight with rampage
Fourteen of the 15 fighters who underwent drug testing at January's UFC 125 event tested clean for performance-enhancing drugs and recreational/drugs of abuse.
However, one unnamed contestant's sample has yet to be cleared.
Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer today e-mailed the drug-testing results to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), and he noted that the commission is "still processing another athlete's urine sample from that event."
UFC 125 took place Jan. 1 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. UFC lightweight champ Frankie Edgar battled back from near-certain to defeat to earn a draw with Gray Maynard in the main event.
The NSAC tested both Edgar and Maynard, as well as Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Brandon Vera, Phil Baroni, Brad Tavares, Jeremy Stephens, Dustin Poirier, Diego Nunes, Daniel Roberts, Jacon Volkmann, Dong Hyun Kim and Clay Guida. Those test results were all declared negative.
As MMAjunkie.com reported earlier today, Kizer confirmed that main-card winner Thiago Silva also submitted a pre-fight drug screen at UFC 125, which indicates the outstanding drug test likely belongs to the Brazilian slugger. However, Kizer was unable to confirm that Silva's specimen was the sample that was "still processing," or what that status might indicate.
Silva had been expected to face Quinton "Rampage" Jackson at May's UFC 130 event, though the Brazilian's status was recently brought into question when reports surfaced that the UFC was seeking a replacement opponent for Jackson. Silva has insisted he is uninjured and ready to compete in the event, leaving some confusion as to the reason for his potential withdrawal.
All athletes were tested for drugs of abuse (such as marijuana and cocaine), as well as anabolic steroids and other performance-enhancers.
The NSAC traditionally tests both main-card fighters, all winning fighters and any competitors who previously failed drug tests. However, some of the testing remains random, and all fighters are subject to it.
most likely silvas test and prolly why he back out the fight with rampage