UFC 118
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JAMES TONEY: "MMA GUYS GOT GUTS...BOXING GUYS ARE ALL TALK AND NO WALK"
"Man, that’s the main reason I came to MMA. At least MMA guys got guts and they will get in a cage with me. The boxing guys are all talk and no walk. My thing is, all of these bums, David Gaye and Bucktooth Bernard Hopkins, talk all that shit; come and see me! They were quiet as mice until they saw I was signed to fight in the UFC and then they all had an opinion. I’m doing both and I ain't going nowhere. I’m in it for the long run baby. I’m the only two sport athlete out there and I’m doing the 2 most dangerous sports in the world. No other man will try to do that."
"Man, the fans in MMA are great. These motherfucking fans are...they fanatics man. It’s great. I love the atmosphere that they bring. It reminded me of the old days of boxing; the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s. Boxing fans used to be like that and we need to bring that back. The MMA scene is so crazy and it’s great. The fans stand in the hotel lobby from early in the morning until late at night. They are there when you wake up in the morning and they are there when you go to bed and that’s fucking crazy. I love that shit. It was crazy man."
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"Man, that’s the main reason I came to MMA. At least MMA guys got guts and they will get in a cage with me. The boxing guys are all talk and no walk. My thing is, all of these bums, David Gaye and Bucktooth Bernard Hopkins, talk all that shit; come and see me! They were quiet as mice until they saw I was signed to fight in the UFC and then they all had an opinion. I’m doing both and I ain't going nowhere. I’m in it for the long run baby. I’m the only two sport athlete out there and I’m doing the 2 most dangerous sports in the world. No other man will try to do that."
"Man, the fans in MMA are great. These motherfucking fans are...they fanatics man. It’s great. I love the atmosphere that they bring. It reminded me of the old days of boxing; the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s. Boxing fans used to be like that and we need to bring that back. The MMA scene is so crazy and it’s great. The fans stand in the hotel lobby from early in the morning until late at night. They are there when you wake up in the morning and they are there when you go to bed and that’s fucking crazy. I love that shit. It was crazy man."
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nah, toney wasn't black balled from boxing the problem is he's a shot fighter and not relevant so he couldn't land any significant fights (or money fights).
Now if he would have worked his way back up the ranks he could have eventually got some big fights again. Problem is he's too old and shot and he knows that so I think he kinda hustled his way into the UFC I mean getting paid $700,000-1,000,000 for your first MMA fight? thats crazy
That's all Couture makes though? Well, if say, just for shits & giggles, James Toney vs Couture was on an HBO card boxing, he could probably get at least $500,000 on not even be the main event. Now we all know Couture isn't like that he's not all about money and would never fight Toney in a boxing ring, but just sayin if he wanted too, he could make a lot of money compared to what he usually gets. People with no fanbases in boxing like Andre Berto get paid over a million for one fight and hardly anyone even watches
Now if he would have worked his way back up the ranks he could have eventually got some big fights again. Problem is he's too old and shot and he knows that so I think he kinda hustled his way into the UFC I mean getting paid $700,000-1,000,000 for your first MMA fight? thats crazy
That's all Couture makes though? Well, if say, just for shits & giggles, James Toney vs Couture was on an HBO card boxing, he could probably get at least $500,000 on not even be the main event. Now we all know Couture isn't like that he's not all about money and would never fight Toney in a boxing ring, but just sayin if he wanted too, he could make a lot of money compared to what he usually gets. People with no fanbases in boxing like Andre Berto get paid over a million for one fight and hardly anyone even watches
So what exactly did BJ Penn adjust from the first fight to this one? You give up the center of a ring to a guy with movement like Frankie Edgar, and he's going to pick you apart. I don't understand why BJ didn't impose himself more.
This is exactly the same BJ who showed up the first time, and Edgar actually looks like he's improved since then.
Edgar's boxing was stellar, this guy IMO is probably one of the top 3 boxers in MMA, in terms of his mobility, head movement, accuracy...but most importantly...SPEED.
Ugh. I like Maynard, but the thought of him headlining a PPV in the UFC scares me. ZzzzZzzzz.
Nate Diaz looked impressive, and I don't know why he's still talking about 155. He's looked amazing at 170 both times. He uses his range really well, and knows how to keep people at the end of his punches.
This is exactly the same BJ who showed up the first time, and Edgar actually looks like he's improved since then.
Edgar's boxing was stellar, this guy IMO is probably one of the top 3 boxers in MMA, in terms of his mobility, head movement, accuracy...but most importantly...SPEED.
Ugh. I like Maynard, but the thought of him headlining a PPV in the UFC scares me. ZzzzZzzzz.
Nate Diaz looked impressive, and I don't know why he's still talking about 155. He's looked amazing at 170 both times. He uses his range really well, and knows how to keep people at the end of his punches.
I don't think dana would put frankie n maynard in the main event, he'll do a co-main event and a main event title fight like how he's done in the past, there's no way ppl would buy this on ppv if it were a main event, unless it was free on spike it would get great ratings, silva vs. Sonnen 2 and edgar vs. Maynard 2, I already see it!!
UFC 118 salaries: Toney ($500K), Couture ($250K) top $1.428 million fighter payroll
Co-headliners James Toney ($500,000) and Randy Couture ($250,000) garnered the most attention heading into this past weekend's UFC 118 event, and they also walked home with the evening's largest disclosed checks.
MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) recently requested and today received the list of officially disclosed paydays from the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission.
The total disclosed payroll for the Aug. 28 event was $1.428 million.
Toney and Couture accounted for 52.52 percent of the disclosed figures.
UFC 118 was the first trip to Massachusetts for the world's biggest mixed martial arts promotion. The event took place at the TD Garden in Boston, and the main card aired live on pay-per-view. A pair of contests were also featured on Spike TV.
In a bout UFC president Dana White openly referred to as a "freak show," Couture took Toney down easily and submitted him in the first round. While the contest was only a co-feature, it netted the most attention in the days prior to the fight.
Meanwhile, in the main event, Frankie Edgar proved his April win over former champion B.J. Penn was no fluke. The new champion dominated "The Prodigy" for five rounds en route to a unanimous-decision win.
Edgar took home $96,000 for his effort, while Penn was issued a $150,000 check.
The total paydays included:
Frankie Edgar: $96,000 (includes $48,000 win bonus)
def. B.J. Penn: $150,000
Randy Couture: $250,000 (no win bonus)
def. James Toney: $500,000
Demian Maia: $68,000 ($34,000 win bonus)
def. Mario Miranda: $8,000
Gray Maynard: $46,000 ($23,000 win bonus)
def. Kenny Florian: $65,000
Nate Diaz: $60,000 ($30,000 win bonus)
def. Marcus Davis: $31,000
Joe Lauzon: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
def. Gabe Ruediger: $8,000
Nik Lentz: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Andre Winner: $10,000
Dan Miller: $30,000 ($15,000 win bonus)
def. John Salter: $8,000
Greg Soto: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
def. Nick Osipczak: $10,000
Mike Pierce: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
def. Amilcar Alves: $6,000
Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. They also do not include portions of the pay-per-view revenue that some top-level fighters receive.
For example, as previously reported, UFC officials handed out $60,000 UFC 118 bonuses to Lauzon (Submission of the Night), Diaz and Davis (Fight of the Night).
In other words, the above figures are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event.
Co-headliners James Toney ($500,000) and Randy Couture ($250,000) garnered the most attention heading into this past weekend's UFC 118 event, and they also walked home with the evening's largest disclosed checks.
MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) recently requested and today received the list of officially disclosed paydays from the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission.
The total disclosed payroll for the Aug. 28 event was $1.428 million.
Toney and Couture accounted for 52.52 percent of the disclosed figures.
UFC 118 was the first trip to Massachusetts for the world's biggest mixed martial arts promotion. The event took place at the TD Garden in Boston, and the main card aired live on pay-per-view. A pair of contests were also featured on Spike TV.
In a bout UFC president Dana White openly referred to as a "freak show," Couture took Toney down easily and submitted him in the first round. While the contest was only a co-feature, it netted the most attention in the days prior to the fight.
Meanwhile, in the main event, Frankie Edgar proved his April win over former champion B.J. Penn was no fluke. The new champion dominated "The Prodigy" for five rounds en route to a unanimous-decision win.
Edgar took home $96,000 for his effort, while Penn was issued a $150,000 check.
The total paydays included:
Frankie Edgar: $96,000 (includes $48,000 win bonus)
def. B.J. Penn: $150,000
Randy Couture: $250,000 (no win bonus)
def. James Toney: $500,000
Demian Maia: $68,000 ($34,000 win bonus)
def. Mario Miranda: $8,000
Gray Maynard: $46,000 ($23,000 win bonus)
def. Kenny Florian: $65,000
Nate Diaz: $60,000 ($30,000 win bonus)
def. Marcus Davis: $31,000
Joe Lauzon: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
def. Gabe Ruediger: $8,000
Nik Lentz: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Andre Winner: $10,000
Dan Miller: $30,000 ($15,000 win bonus)
def. John Salter: $8,000
Greg Soto: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
def. Nick Osipczak: $10,000
Mike Pierce: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
def. Amilcar Alves: $6,000
Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. They also do not include portions of the pay-per-view revenue that some top-level fighters receive.
For example, as previously reported, UFC officials handed out $60,000 UFC 118 bonuses to Lauzon (Submission of the Night), Diaz and Davis (Fight of the Night).
In other words, the above figures are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event.