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KALYN

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Dirty Shoez said:
I would always be open to running/co-running a "Music Business Discussion" forum, but that is probably not going to happen.



Umm probably not.

You could always start up your website thats been "coming soon" for years now.. then you'll be in charge of something.. then you can force-feed your "vast knowledge" and share your "experience" with those who dont know any better.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
If NO mods are around, and some series of events happens and suddenly the 3 top posters take a break......then what?
And if a tree falls in the forest with no one around to hear it?
Dirty Shoez said:
...Nothing happens, thats what.
Thanx for answering your own question Sport.
Dirty Shoez said:
These are the types of things mods need to plan for, but if you ain't around.....you can't really be planning for shit, now can you?
Seriosly Chicken Little, you can't really throw internet moderators in with the likes of FEMA. Believe me, this place has advanced to a point where a moderator is almost non-essential.

That being said I could, if enough people gave the nod, move to start one forum specific thread a week. Though it's obvious this place is proficient in that area already. Ergo, this could be a study in my own creativity.

Speak on it.
 

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EDJ said:
^LOL. I gIVES A FUK WHO LIKES OR DISLIKES ME. I'M JUST SUPRISED PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK THEY KNOW ME TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT OR ATTEMPT TO PERCEIVE ME.

I know you don't give a fuck. I didn't say you should. And you shouldn't be suprised that certain people stereotype others. I think everyone on here has stereotyped someone else on here and in real life. Did you at least get my point and that I'm not talking shit to you?
 

Hutch

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I don't remember which of you said it, but I quite liked the statement 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. I wouldn't have the necessary posts to be a mod myself, besides, my views are less enlightening and more reductionist in scope - I prefer to get down to the nitty-gritty instead of the 'what if's'.

I don't know who'd make the best mod if a new one were to be chosen. Maybe Cold Blooded, maybe Heresy - I don't know though, to be a mod one of the prerequisites would be to avoid invoking verbal wars and that would count almost everyone out of the running.

Besides, I think Deep Thoughts silence is a more valid statement than what most of us have had to say (including myself)... Fight fight fight!
 

EDJ

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#25
SIXXNESS,
ALL I KNOW IS THAT YOU MENTIONED MY NAME TO ILLUSTRATE YOUR POINT, A QUESTIONABLE ONE TO FIT THE PERCEPTION OF THOSE THAT PERCEIVE ME A CERTAIN WAY.
 
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Hutch said:
I don't know who'd make the best mod if a new one were to be chosen. Maybe Cold Blooded, maybe Heresy - I don't know though, to be a mod one of the prerequisites would be to avoid invoking verbal wars and that would count almost everyone out of the running.

thanks. i already was mod in here back in the good ol days. but i retired and plan to stay that way.





~
 

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EDJ said:
SIXXNESS,
ALL I KNOW IS THAT YOU MENTIONED MY NAME TO ILLUSTRATE YOUR POINT, A QUESTIONABLE ONE TO FIT THE PERCEPTION OF THOSE THAT PERCEIVE ME A CERTAIN WAY.

Okay. Let me explain it to you again. I think your beliefs or views are controversial within this message board. If you can't see that and don't notice a shitload of people disagreeing with you then that's on you.

My point=Tadou has controversial views, and so do you. You at least are respectful enough (most of the time) to not get into heated verbal arguments and name calling like he does. That's it. I'll say it again, both of you have controversial views in the eyes of a lot of people on this board, including myself, but I think you have enough integrity and respect to not be a complete douche bag which is what Harold would do. Don't take that as "I don't agree with you and you are wrong," what I mean by controversial is that not everyone outright agrees with you from the get go.

I wasn't saying it so that I would have to explain it to you 5 times, I said it to get the point across that Tadou is a shitty choice for moderator. I think that you would represent your view points and ideas in a respectful way without telling others that they are stupid and commence talking about them like you know them. Calm down a little, I'm not against you, and it seems like you're taking it like that. If you wanna discuss it more, PM me.
 
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Deep Thought said:
And if a tree falls in the forest with no one around to hear it? Thanx for answering your own question Sport.
Dunno! OK!

Seriosly Chicken Little, you can't really throw internet moderators in with the likes of FEMA. Believe me, this place has advanced to a point where a moderator is almost non-essential.

That being said I could, if enough people gave the nod, move to start one forum specific thread a week. Though it's obvious this place is proficient in that area already. Ergo, this could be a study in my own creativity.

Speak on it.
It's not about starting X amount of threads. It's about actually having a presence, whether you're starting arguments or not. This isn't FEMA, and indeed, the mods aren't SUPPOSED TO BE humble and non-confrontational like Tim Russert.

- Be around, and post from time to time.
- Make threads that matter, and that relate to the audience.
- Keep conversations going (by any means necessary)
- Say the things that will put diverted arguments back on subject (without needing to threaten people)

Right now, you are doing none of these things.

HERESY, Fridge, EDJ....there are much better candidates here, that are not the type of people to just disappear for 4 months and only pop back up when their name is mentioned. They are people that do not drive other people away, but rather, are very capable of raising the standards and expectations, and make the forum BETTER.

Again.

They are people that wouldn't just be IN CHARGE OF the forum...they'd make it BETTER.
 
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KALYN said:
Umm probably not.

You could always start up your website thats been "coming soon" for years now.. then you'll be in charge of something.. then you can force-feed your "vast knowledge" and share your "experience" with those who dont know any better.
Its actually been "Coming in 6 months" (more accurately, 2-3 Seasons away) for years now, but thanks for noticing. For the record: Kalyn's destroyed Forums: 1.....Dirty Shoez': 0.

D.B.A., Publishing, Copyrights, Royalties, Replication vs Duplication, Harry Fox, IPRs.....these are things that are not being discussed anywhere on Siccness, and that do not require tens of thousands of albums sold to give basic instructions and follow-up information. With the amount of fake rappers out there polluting the market, you would THINK that you'd WANT THESE topics discussed. Then again, your contempt for anything other than Networking and Friend-Making knows no bounds.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
- Be around, and post from time to time.
- Make threads that matter, and that relate to the audience.
- Keep conversations going (by any means necessary)
- Say the things that will put diverted arguments back on subject (without needing to threaten people)
I agree.
 

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Dirty Shoez said:
D.B.A., Publishing, Copyrights, Royalties, Replication vs Duplication, Harry Fox, IPRs.....these are things that are not being discussed anywhere on Siccness, and that do not require tens of thousands of albums sold to give basic instructions and follow-up information. With the amount of fake rappers out there polluting the market, you would THINK that you'd WANT THESE topics discussed. Then again, your contempt for anything other than Networking and Friend-Making knows no bounds.

I think it's cause most people don't understand any of it and they don't have an opinion. If these topics are such good ideas, put them into use. Make a thread or two about them. I may not know something about each of the topics but I'd at least read the shit and contribute if I knew what I was talking about.

I think they are actually good topics and people ("rappers" on here especially) should be open to discuss it and learn from them. You have all these ideas but you don't put them into use because of whatever reason, I dont' know, and I dont' feel like assuming...Moderator or not..just make the threads and see where it goes. Otherwise you have no room to complain.
 

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- Keep conversations going (by any means necessary)
- Say the things that will put diverted arguments back on subject (without needing to threaten people)


Does anyone else see the contradiction? ANY MEANS NECESSARY VS WITHOUT NEEDING TO THREATEN PEOPLE.....

Any means constitutes threating if it gets to that.
 

EDJ

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#36
SIXXNESS,
51ST OF ALL,
I KNOW WHAT POINT YOU MAKIN'. WHAT YOU FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT OUT THE BLUE I WAS MENTIONED TO CONVEY A SARCASTIC COMMENT.

XNDLY,

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION: WHO IS THE MESSAgE BOARD CATERED TO? ABOUT WHAT? WHAT CULTURE?

3RDLY,
ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS:

WHAT IS THE BOARD DEMOgRAPHICS? DOES THAT HAVE N-E-THANg TO DO WHY EDJ IS CONTROVERSIAL TO THEM? IS EDJ OUT OF PLACE?

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY. YOU SEEIN' A gROWN MAN SPEAKIN' ON SHIT INSTEAD OF A CHILD RESORTIN' TO FITS AND TANTRUMS.
 

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EDJ said:
SIXXNESS,
51ST OF ALL,
I KNOW WHAT POINT YOU MAKIN'. WHAT YOU FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT OUT THE BLUE I WAS MENTIONED TO CONVEY A SARCASTIC COMMENT.
Okay, and I do realize that. I shouldn't have said it in a sarcastic manner.

XNDLY,

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION: WHO IS THE MESSAgE BOARD CATERED TO? ABOUT WHAT? WHAT CULTURE?
It's catered to "rap fans" as it was supposed to be "the last remaining sanctuary for gangsta rap". The rap music culture. If you are asking along the lines of race, race doesn't exist except for in people's heads. It's a social construct so I can't answer that part because it doesn't exist. (I'm not saying there isn't racism though, some people believe race is real, so to them that is their reality).

3RDLY,
ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS:

WHAT IS THE BOARD DEMOgRAPHICS? DOES THAT HAVE N-E-THANg TO DO WHY EDJ IS CONTROVERSIAL TO THEM? IS EDJ OUT OF PLACE?

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY. YOU SEEIN' A gROWN MAN SPEAKIN' ON SHIT INSTEAD OF A CHILD RESORTIN' TO FITS AND TANTRUMS.
I'll think about them. And I can answer the last question right now...You are not out of place. It's others with different view points that label you "out of place" in any specific instance (not just this one).
 

EDJ

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#38
^I SEE THAT YOU'VE MASTERED THE QUOTE SYSTEM. I'M SO PROUD OF YOU gCB.

BUT I DISAgREE ON WHAT YOU STRESSED ABOUT RACE. THAT'S NOTHIN' YOU IMAgINE OR REFUSE TO MAKE OR AKNOWLEDgE. THE SHIT IS REAL.


YOU STRESSED, "It's catered to "rap fans" as it was supposed to be "the last remaining sanctuary for gangsta rap"."

51ST OF ALL,
WHAT IS "gANgSTA" RAP?

XNDLY,
WHO LABELED IT THAT?


THEN YOU STRESSED, "The rap music culture."

WRONg. THE RAP MUSIC "SUB"-CULTURE. AND WHERE IS IT ROOTED?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If you are asking along the lines of race, race doesn't exist except for in people's heads."

AND THIS IS WHERE I DISAgREE COMPLETELY. RACE IS IN THE BLOOD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's a social construct so I can't answer that part because it doesn't exist."

I BELIEVE YOU CONFUSIN' IT WITH CULTURE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "(I'm not saying there isn't racism though, some people believe race is real, so to them that is their reality)."

WHETHA THEY BELIEVE OR NOT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I'll think about them."

DO THAT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And I can answer the last question right now...You are not out of place. It's others with different view points that label you "out of place" in any specific instance (not just this one)."

THANK YOU.
 

I AM

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#39
EDJ said:
^I SEE THAT YOU'VE MASTERED THE QUOTE SYSTEM. I'M SO PROUD OF YOU gCB.
Yep. GCB? Ah, nevermind, LOL. I just got that. You're funny aren't ya? :)

BUT I DISAgREE ON WHAT YOU STRESSED ABOUT RACE. THAT'S NOTHIN' YOU IMAgINE OR REFUSE TO MAKE OR AKNOWLEDgE. THE SHIT IS REAL.
That's fair, I wasn't asking you to agree. Just presenting my point of view. But let me say this, race to most people is "color" but what they are really doing is labeling certain colors and putting certain values and stereotypes into that group so people can tell if you are a "good" or "bad" person by looking at you. Our bodies and skin are a product of our environment. Why are Eskimos short and squat? Cause they'd die otherwise. I bet that you and I have more similar DNA than you and say, Mac Dre, even though I'm white. But the race thing will get into a long discussion, so if you wanna talk about that part, holla at me on the PM, lol...

YOU STRESSED, "It's catered to "rap fans" as it was supposed to be "the last remaining sanctuary for gangsta rap"."

51ST OF ALL,
WHAT IS "gANgSTA" RAP?

XNDLY,
WHO LABELED IT THAT?
Are you asking for my opinion or a societal definition? "Gangsta Rap" is rap that came from gang members or gangsters. If I'm missing something, let me know. As to WHO labeled that....I'd say corporate white America since they do all the labeling (music and otherwise).

THEN YOU STRESSED, "The rap music culture."

WRONg. THE RAP MUSIC "SUB"-CULTURE. AND WHERE IS IT ROOTED?
It's rooted in African culture...Almost said African American, but I caught myself.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If you are asking along the lines of race, race doesn't exist except for in people's heads."

AND THIS IS WHERE I DISAgREE COMPLETELY. RACE IS IN THE BLOOD.
Race was made to separate people based on prejudged abilities that each "race" has. My earlier example of an Eskimo comes to mind....Now someone that lives in a hot place (say Kenya for example), will be thinner and slimmer (typically). Who is gonna be better at basketball, the short, squate Eskimo (who lives in snow and ice), or the tall slim dude that's use to hot temperatures? The same system that you dislike, is the system that put into your head that race is something real.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's a social construct so I can't answer that part because it doesn't exist."

I BELIEVE YOU CONFUSIN' IT WITH CULTURE.
I was probably going back and forth between the two, my appologies if I mixed shit up.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "(I'm not saying there isn't racism though, some people believe race is real, so to them that is their reality)."

WHETHA THEY BELIEVE OR NOT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
It is what it is, or is not. Depends on what you believe. Just cause someone tells you race is real, doesn't mean it is. But then again, just cause someone says it's not doesn't mean it's not. I just think separating people based on color or where they came from is fucking stupid.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I'll think about them."

DO THAT.
I am. Do you want me to answer them? It seemed to be rather rhetorical.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And I can answer the last question right now...You are not out of place. It's others with different view points that label you "out of place" in any specific instance (not just this one)."

THANK YOU.
For what?
 

EDJ

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SIXXNESS,
YOU STRESSED, "Yep. GCB? Ah, nevermind, LOL. I just got that. You're funny aren't ya?"

LOL. I DIDN'T WANNA SPELL IT OUT AND PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "race to most people is "color" but what they are really doing is labeling certain colors and putting certain values and stereotypes into that group so people can tell if you are a "good" or "bad" person by looking at you."

SEEMS TYPICAL. BUT THE THANg IS THAT YOU CAN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM DOIN' THAT AND EVEN YOURSELF IS gONNA IDENTIFY WITH WHATEVA RACE. WHETHA YOU SEE THAT AS gOOD OR BAD IS UP ON THE INDIVIDUAL.

EXAMPLE:

YOU'RE A BLAK MAN IN THE SOUTH AND WANNA gO TO A SCHOOL THAT CATERS TO YOU. WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL YOU gONNA CHOOSE OR LOOK INTO? WHAT'S gONNA BE YOUR FIRST CHOICE? AND WHO IS YOUR PEOPLES?


THEN YOU STRESSED, "Our bodies and skin are a product of our environment."

HALF TRUE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Why are Eskimos short and squat?"

CAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY BORN?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Cause they'd die otherwise."

HOW YOU FIgURE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I bet that you and I have more similar DNA than you and say, Mac Dre, even though I'm white."

PROBABLY, PROBABLY NOT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But the race thing will get into a long discussion, so if you wanna talk about that part, holla at me on the PM, lol..."

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. WHAT PART OF RACE HAVEN'T I TALKED ABOUT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Are you asking for my opinion or a societal definition?"

WE KNOW SOCIETY IS SOME BULLSHIT, QUIK TO LABEL SHIT. I'M ASKIN' FOR YOUR OPINION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Gangsta Rap" is rap that came from gang members or gangsters."

SO YOU HAVE TO "BE" A gANgSTA TO MAKE SOME? SO WHAT IS A gANgSTA?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If I'm missing something, let me know."

WELL, AS A LOT, AND NOT COMIN' FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU gONNA WANNA IDENTIFY WITH SUCH AND LIMIT YOURSELF TO SUCH IF YOU CHOOSE TO PARTAKE IN SUCH. PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN THRU ALL KIND OF SHIT AND I'LL SPEAK UP ON IT. BUT I AIN'T gONNA DO LIKE MOST OF THESE FOO'S AND KEEP BRAgKIN' OR SPEAKIN' UP ON SHIT THEY AIN'T DONE AND SOME HOPE THEY DONE AND DWELL AND LIMIT THEY ART. AS A gANgSTA, I DID MY DIRT AND SPEAK UP ON IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN I'M gONNA KEEP TALKIN' BOUT THE SAME SHIT. RAP IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT, AND N-E-BODY THAT'S REAL AIN'T gONNA DISAgREE WITH THAT. SO TO LABEL MY ART SOMETHIN', I'M JUST STIgMATIZIN' IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "As to WHO labeled that....I'd say corporate white America since they do all the labeling (music and otherwise)."

YUP. AND SOME(INCLUDIN' THIS SITE) DONE RAN AWAY OR ATTEMPTIN' TO RUN AWAY WITH IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's rooted in African culture...Almost said African American, but I caught myself."

BOTH. BUT ITS AFRICAN RHYTHMS THE FOUNDATION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Race was made to separate people based on prejudged abilities that each "race" has."

SO YOU SAYIN' (gOD) MADE EACH RACE TO SEPERATE? OR THAT EVOLUTION JUST SO HAPPENED TO THINK ABOUT IT TO MAKE IT THAT WAY?


THEN YOU STRESSED, "My earlier example of an Eskimo comes to mind....Now someone that lives in a hot place (say Kenya for example), will be thinner and slimmer (typically). Who is gonna be better at basketball, the short, squate Eskimo (who lives in snow and ice), or the tall slim dude that's use to hot temperatures? The same system that you dislike, is the system that put into your head that race is something real."

IT'S BEYOND THE SYSTEM. JUST LIKE THERE'S VARIETY WITHIN' A SPECIES, SO IS THERE IN HUMANS. WE LIVE IN AN INTRICATE WORLD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It is what it is, or is not. Depends on what you believe."

AND THIS IS WHERE YOU gO LEFT AND I gO RIgHT. WHETHA YOU BELIEVE THIS OR THAT THE INTEgRITY OF THE MATTER REVEALS THE TRUTH. IF SOME UNCLE TOM ASS NIgKA THAT'S DARKER THAN WESLEY SNIPES THINK HE IS WHITE, IS HE REALLY WHITE(NOT MENTALLY)? WILL HE NOT BE PREJUDgED AND PERCEIVED AS ANOTHA BROTHA WHETHA HE DENIES HIS RACE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Just cause someone tells you race is real, doesn't mean it is."

NOBODY gOTTA TELL ME SHIT. THE SHIT IS AS REAL AS IT gETS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, " But then again, just cause someone says it's not doesn't mean it's not. I just think separating people based on color or where they came from is fucking stupid."

JUST CAUSE YOU THINK IT'S STUPID DOESN'T MEAN IT IS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Do you want me to answer them?"

YUP.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "For what?"

FOR MAKIN' THAT POINT.