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22sleepy415

22sleepy415

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HERESY said:
^^^ WE ARENT TALKING IDENTICAL DIMENSIONS BUT ROOMS THAT HAVE MEASUREMENTS THAT ARE MULTIPLES
You right on that, that's my bad.

I don't recommend doubling by offsetting tracks though, it's often more troubling than it's worth. I never had any phasing issues when trying that out but it's better using a chorus or when working with vocals doing a double. There's no good replacement for a good double.

Offsetting will work well when processing one of the tracks though. But many people seem to think that copying one track and panning accordingly will be the same as doing a double take. And even then with vocals it's still better to do the actual double unless you're going for stereo separation.

Even though working with dimensions that are multiples is the worst thing for acoustics it should still be treatable one way or another. If foam will not do the trick one can always modify the actual room. This is not the most cost-effective thing to do depending on what route you take but it'll do the trick.

When working with a booth it's not hard to treat it since most booths are relatively small and don't allow the sound to go all over the place anyways. Just use your ears to judge whether your booth needs work or not.
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HERESY

HERESY

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22sleepy415 said:
HERESY said:
^^^ WE ARENT TALKING IDENTICAL DIMENSIONS BUT ROOMS THAT HAVE MEASUREMENTS THAT ARE MULTIPLES
You right on that, that's my bad.

I don't recommend doubling by offsetting tracks though, it's often more troubling than it's worth. I never had any phasing issues when trying that out but it's better using a chorus or when working with vocals doing a double. There's no good replacement for a good double.

Offsetting will work well when processing one of the tracks though. But many people seem to think that copying one track and panning accordingly will be the same as doing a double take. And even then with vocals it's still better to do the actual double unless you're going for stereo separation.

Even though working with dimensions that are multiples is the worst thing for acoustics it should still be treatable one way or another. If foam will not do the trick one can always modify the actual room. This is not the most cost-effective thing to do depending on what route you take but it'll do the trick.

When working with a booth it's not hard to treat it since most booths are relatively small and don't allow the sound to go all over the place anyways. Just use your ears to judge whether your booth needs work or not.
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I AGREE WITH YOU 10000000%. I OFTEN TELL (AND SHOW) CLIENTS WHY A SIMPLE COPY AND PASTE (FOR VOX)WONT WORK. I CAN RECALL TWO SONGS I DID WITH ELECTRIC GUITARS THAT *REQUIRED* OFF SETTING BECAUSE THE TRACKS WOULD SUM TO THE MIDDLE. :confused:


I ALSO AGREE THAT ROOMS WITH CRAZY DIMENSIONS (MULTIPLES) CAN BE TREATED. MY DIMENSIONS ARE JUST SHY OF BEING MULTIPLES AND I KNOW WHERE MY PROBLEM FREQUENCIES ARE. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TREATMENT AND DON'T NEED A LOT OF TREATMENT. EVERYTHING IS ON POINT.


@SOAK HOW HIGH IS YOUR ROOM? 4X7 WILL WORK BUT IN REALITY THOSE DIMENSIONS MIGHT DECREASE A COUPLE OF INCHES. IF YOUR BUILDING FROM SCRATCH AND USING SHEET ROCK A 4X7 BOOTH WONT BE 4X7 IN THE *INSIDE* OF THE BOOTH. WHY? MATERIAL WIDTH. IT WILL BE A COUPLE OF INCHES SMALLER BUT YOU WONT NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE.



WE STILL HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE *MAIN* OBJECTIVE. DOES THE ORIGINAL POSTER WANT TO KEEP SOUND *IN* (NO SOUND LEAKAGE TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD) OR DOES HE WANT TO KEEP *OUTSIDE* NOISE/SOUND FROM COMING IN? IF HE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT HE WANTS TO DO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.


ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THE TYPE OF DOOR AND HOW IT'S SEALED. SOLID CORE DOORS SHOULD BE YOUR BEST BET IF YOU PLAN ON BUILDING A BOOTH. IF YOU ARE MAKING A BOOTH OR LARGER ROOM FROM SCRATCH USE *****SHEET ROCK*****. I'VE POSTED THIS INFO BEFORE AND IT WONT BE HARD TO DIG UP. SHEET ROCK=BETTER STC. YOU WANT TO MAKE A "LEAF" AND YOU WANT TO CONTROL YOUR AIR SPACE (THERMAFIBER IS BEST DON'T USE REGULAR INSULATION).




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