Yeah true, Rap has always been for the Youngsters. But I mean, there was a lot of topics back then that was for adults as well. $hit, I would say Rap back then was geared more for 18-30 yr olds, considering the topics of violence, gangs, drugs, sex,etc... The vibe was just more serious, so the younger kids couldn't really comprehend, they just watched their older bro's listen to it. Now it's like strictly for teens and even younger. I've seen little kids as young as like 5 walking around with headphones saying "Youuuuuuuuu!" cmon now. lol It's just silly man. This younger generation is pretty weak. The older folks need to do their own shit. I'm only 21, so I probably "should" be liking this new era of rap, but I honestly don't. Can't feel it.
Thin beats took over?
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^^^^i got all kinds of homies from the south, being in the military and they all tell me that all they play in the hoods is that snap/crunk shit. From UGK, Webbie, Lil Jon,to Boosie. Thats gangsta to them. Just like nonstop said, its their turns now. But u bein 21, what u know about that old school west coast shit man? U musta been in kindergarten/gradeschool when the west was on point.
It's only "played out" because you chose to adapt to a different sound, just like everyone else has done. Sounds like your just saying you jumped the bandwagon like everyone else, just to keep up with current trends. Whatever, that's cool, sound changes from generations to generations, but this new sound ain't me. I just can't feel these techno-pop beats, simple as that. $hit is too wierd IMO. I mean I'll listen to them if their thrown at me like in a club or whatever the fuck, but I ain't going to go out and look for the artists that make them and go buy the CDs. If anything, today's sound is already played out, all the shit sounds the same. So it's the same ish, both styles are highly played out. I would say most are already over Soulja Boy. Silly fads. That's exactly what I don't like about Rap today also, it's a fad, nothing is great enough to sustain. There's just too many silly styles and songs that are washed out each month. WestCoast & EastCoast sustained their strength back in the days because of their strong styles and songs. Most songs actually had meaning back then and you can really feel the beats, whether it was a faster party beat, gangsta beat, chill out beat, smoking out beat, sexual fucking beat, shit was tight, so much variety.
Yeah, true. Music definitely has to evolve to stay alive with the current gen. Regardless, I personally still find the new sound very tacky and corny, soundwise, it just don't compare to 90's $hit. Most 90's beats had a full sound to them like a live band, real acoustic instruments and such. Percussion was WAAAY better IMO back then. But, oh well, a lot of people do like today's rap. It's a different vibe.
Just listen to this beat, god damn those drums are DOPE:
Bassline, everything is fucking HARD. Shit you can ride to.
Or take another classic featuring MC Eiht:
Perfect drumbeat, rimshot snare with nice decay, acoustic bass, piano, guitar, chords, strings. It's just MUSIC, I don't understand what's so "oldschool" about this sound. Instruments are instruments, so what's so oldschool about this sound? Now were on some thin digital synthesized sounding bullshit with no soul. Lyrically, IMHO that's why $hit is wack for the most part these days as well because the beats don't provide a good vibe for proper lyrics. You can't tell a story, say a message, nothing on todays beats. Their just too fast, too much going on, too noisey, no space for proper lyrics to sit in, only hooks.
Just listen to this beat, god damn those drums are DOPE:
Bassline, everything is fucking HARD. Shit you can ride to.
Or take another classic featuring MC Eiht:
Perfect drumbeat, rimshot snare with nice decay, acoustic bass, piano, guitar, chords, strings. It's just MUSIC, I don't understand what's so "oldschool" about this sound. Instruments are instruments, so what's so oldschool about this sound? Now were on some thin digital synthesized sounding bullshit with no soul. Lyrically, IMHO that's why $hit is wack for the most part these days as well because the beats don't provide a good vibe for proper lyrics. You can't tell a story, say a message, nothing on todays beats. Their just too fast, too much going on, too noisey, no space for proper lyrics to sit in, only hooks.
^thats true the beats sounded different but wtf cmon man it sounds like a lot of you guys are just STUCK on 90's west coast rap. even snoop changed his style up on his newer albums man its not 91 that was 17 years ago damn near the 80's. you act like cats are gonna start remaking that shit. since when did people make 1970's music in 1990? never. just like cats in '08 aint making shit that sounds like '91
^thats true but i think doing another doggystyle or a new dpg album that sounded like their first album wouldn't sell any better. the masses just eat whats on their plate - right now its the south. dont get me wrong the south cool but i get tired of it too. what can ya do? we need a new west coast sound - but at the same time we must keep in mind who paved the way.
it's just like hyphy sound that shit is DUMBASS PLAYED OUT people are fucking tired of it what if in 10 years people are still saying "man i still want the bay rappers to make songs like "Go Dumb" and "Tell Me When To Go" i mean your gonna be like wtf move the fuck on allready!
-edit: and i see somene already said this^^^
the only person that could drop a new album and it will sell regarless is dre. he could drop a new chronic album and it dont matter WHAT it sound like people will buy it.
it's just like hyphy sound that shit is DUMBASS PLAYED OUT people are fucking tired of it what if in 10 years people are still saying "man i still want the bay rappers to make songs like "Go Dumb" and "Tell Me When To Go" i mean your gonna be like wtf move the fuck on allready!
-edit: and i see somene already said this^^^
the only person that could drop a new album and it will sell regarless is dre. he could drop a new chronic album and it dont matter WHAT it sound like people will buy it.
People have been waiting for the second Chronic since the first record was released and the Up In Smoke tour took off 8 years ago! So, I agree completely. The album was flawless and the tour was flawless. There hasn't been a better tour/concert since, mark my word. So, Dre does control this. But, can he deliver again? Is he too old now? Will he? Does he even care to? We'll see.
I feel you on what your saying MALKI. But believe me, if that older WestCoast sound came back, many people will still enjoy it today. Like 50cal said, there's definitely a market for it. Trust me, a lot of peeps are still waiting to hear it. It only gets clowned on at the moment because only underground artists and mainly Chicano rappers are doing it. So most peeps think those underground/Chicano rappers are trying too hard and they think of them as being corny. Alls it takes is a big name like Dre, and a few others to follow and it'll catch on again. And BTW, I'm not neccesarily talking about some super grimey lo-fi oldschool shit like that Compton's Most Wanted video I posted, I'm talking more of that Chronic 2001 sound, that modern mid-late 90's sound. I suppose you can label it as G-Funk, but a lot of the moder $hit had less sample usage. The instruments, synths and all that shit are the same today, so I don't understand why that style can't be replicated today.
And as far as that Hyphy shit, I doubt what your saying because it just hasn't created a huge impact. People will remember it and think of it as "fun," but definitely not classic. It's just a fad. Classic will always go back to that Mobb shit when talking about the Bay. Mobb Funk had the greater impact.
And as far as that Hyphy shit, I doubt what your saying because it just hasn't created a huge impact. People will remember it and think of it as "fun," but definitely not classic. It's just a fad. Classic will always go back to that Mobb shit when talking about the Bay. Mobb Funk had the greater impact.
Yup, Snoop fucked up. If anything, he should of gotten more smooth in sound, more oldie and jazzy G-Funk style. He should form a band or something. But instead he tried to act young and has failed.
I really don't understand why these older rappers don't try to market towards the older fans. Why the fuck try to act young, when they ain't?
I really don't understand why these older rappers don't try to market towards the older fans. Why the fuck try to act young, when they ain't?
cuz theyre too garbage to spit some grown men shit. and 90% of producers/engineers are using websites to steal unknown beatmakers beats when they get submtted to them. Son of a bitches have the money and the power to copyright shit that has already been copyrighted.
Time for a revolution. We either kill these old fogies or come out wiff better shit.
Time for a revolution. We either kill these old fogies or come out wiff better shit.