THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER:HEAVYWEIGHTS 9-16-09
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lol I was yelling at my tv "Fuck you Rashad he doesn't listen because he's better than you". Especially if they're doing groundwork, Roy's grappling > everyone on the show fighters or coaches. He was a dick about it though.
I thought McSweeney won the 1st and Shivers won the 2nd, should've went to a 3rd round. Although them ending it was probably for the best I couldn't handle one more round of McSweeney running away and Wes with his hands on his hips. It was like watching a fat kid trying to catch a cupcake with legs, and once he got it he forgot how to eat.
And Rampage once again shows his great coaching skills. Wes is in half guard and is trying to posture up but can't get his arms free, "Punch em! Punch em in the face!"
I thought McSweeney won the 1st and Shivers won the 2nd, should've went to a 3rd round. Although them ending it was probably for the best I couldn't handle one more round of McSweeney running away and Wes with his hands on his hips. It was like watching a fat kid trying to catch a cupcake with legs, and once he got it he forgot how to eat.
And Rampage once again shows his great coaching skills. Wes is in half guard and is trying to posture up but can't get his arms free, "Punch em! Punch em in the face!"
I thought both heavyweights fighting did poorly, neither had any stamina or power. After all that shit talking all they did was dry hump on the floor and then spend the rest of the 1st round and all of the second round sucking air.
Dude took out Wes's leg though and maybe thats what won him the fight but I still think it should have gone to a 3rd round. If the rest of the season is like this, Im not gonna watch.
That fool fighting kimbo next week has a gut, so I dont even know if thats a fair fight.
Dude took out Wes's leg though and maybe thats what won him the fight but I still think it should have gone to a 3rd round. If the rest of the season is like this, Im not gonna watch.
That fool fighting kimbo next week has a gut, so I dont even know if thats a fair fight.
RASHAD EXPLAINS THE KIMBO VS NELSON MATCH-UP
Wednesday night's episode of The Ultimate Fighter has been highly promoted and is expected to set records in viewership of the Spike TV reality show. In what is being billed as the biggest fight in The Ultimate Fighter history, former International Fight League heavyweight titleholder Roy Nelson pits his experience and skill against street fighting legend Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson.
TUF 10 coach Rashad Evans put the fight together the first opportunity he could, and spoke with MMAWeekly.com about why and his impressions of Kimbo.
He had his reasons for putting Roy Nelson against Kimbo, but why he picked them the first chance he had was more about mind games with opposing coach Quinton "Rampage" Jackson than going after Kimbo.
"People ask me, why did I pick Kimbo. I wasn't really picking Kimbo. 'He's the star of the show, maybe you shouldn't have picked Kimbo.' I didn't even think about it like that," said the former UFC light heavyweight titleholder. "I was just like, you know what? Rampage picked my number one guy. I'm going to pick his number one guy."
Evans said his team sat down and evaluated each match-up and felt that Nelson was the best fighter to go against Kimbo. Nelson told MMAWeekly.com last week that he would have rather fought someone else in his first bout.
"I think the decision to put Roy in there with Kimbo instead of anybody else was, everybody wanted to fight Kimbo, but I think they would have got caught up in the mystique of Kimbo. I was like Roy is probably the only one here with enough big fight experience to fight a guy like Kimbo and not get in their head about I'm fighting Kimbo Slice," said Evans.
"I thought Roy was the best guy for the job because Roy brings that big fight experience, and Roy, he's great at everything Kimbo's not good at. I thought that was the most important thing in our decision."
Evans was not impressed with Kimbo during the evaluation process, but knows now that he may not have been showing his hand, knowing he was going to be picked first by Jackson.
"During the evaluations I thought he was like sandbagging, or just not really that good," said the 30-year-old former UFC champion. "I was kind of surprised at the fact that he didn't really have a good showing at the evaluations. I was like, he has to be sandbagging.
"Now I watched and heard Rampage say just take it easy because you're going to be on my team," he said. "That's probably why he was sandbagging because he knew he was going to be on Rampage's team.
"I was like, that's why when I was watching this guy spar, I was like this dude is sorry," added Evans. "I had him picked number 14. That's how unimpressed I was with how he did at evaluations. Judging based on talent with everyone else there, I was like, you know what? He's the fourteenth best guy here."
Regardless what happened against Nelson, win or lose, Evans admires Kimbo for his decision to join The Ultimate Fighter 10 cast.
"I have a ton of respect for Kimbo for even going in there and putting himself in the position he did because, you know what, he didn't have to do that," Evans told MMAWeekly.com. "He could have just continued to fight for whatever promotion. He could fight anywhere. The guy can fight anywhere, any promotion, any time. I thought it was pretty big of him to put himself in a position where he's out of his comfort zone, big time, and he ended up fighting with a bunch of guys that wanted to destroy him.
“That's tough to do. I don't know a lot of people who would do that at all. My hat is off to him for even doing that in the first place."
Wednesday night's episode of The Ultimate Fighter has been highly promoted and is expected to set records in viewership of the Spike TV reality show. In what is being billed as the biggest fight in The Ultimate Fighter history, former International Fight League heavyweight titleholder Roy Nelson pits his experience and skill against street fighting legend Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson.
TUF 10 coach Rashad Evans put the fight together the first opportunity he could, and spoke with MMAWeekly.com about why and his impressions of Kimbo.
He had his reasons for putting Roy Nelson against Kimbo, but why he picked them the first chance he had was more about mind games with opposing coach Quinton "Rampage" Jackson than going after Kimbo.
"People ask me, why did I pick Kimbo. I wasn't really picking Kimbo. 'He's the star of the show, maybe you shouldn't have picked Kimbo.' I didn't even think about it like that," said the former UFC light heavyweight titleholder. "I was just like, you know what? Rampage picked my number one guy. I'm going to pick his number one guy."
Evans said his team sat down and evaluated each match-up and felt that Nelson was the best fighter to go against Kimbo. Nelson told MMAWeekly.com last week that he would have rather fought someone else in his first bout.
"I think the decision to put Roy in there with Kimbo instead of anybody else was, everybody wanted to fight Kimbo, but I think they would have got caught up in the mystique of Kimbo. I was like Roy is probably the only one here with enough big fight experience to fight a guy like Kimbo and not get in their head about I'm fighting Kimbo Slice," said Evans.
"I thought Roy was the best guy for the job because Roy brings that big fight experience, and Roy, he's great at everything Kimbo's not good at. I thought that was the most important thing in our decision."
Evans was not impressed with Kimbo during the evaluation process, but knows now that he may not have been showing his hand, knowing he was going to be picked first by Jackson.
"During the evaluations I thought he was like sandbagging, or just not really that good," said the 30-year-old former UFC champion. "I was kind of surprised at the fact that he didn't really have a good showing at the evaluations. I was like, he has to be sandbagging.
"Now I watched and heard Rampage say just take it easy because you're going to be on my team," he said. "That's probably why he was sandbagging because he knew he was going to be on Rampage's team.
"I was like, that's why when I was watching this guy spar, I was like this dude is sorry," added Evans. "I had him picked number 14. That's how unimpressed I was with how he did at evaluations. Judging based on talent with everyone else there, I was like, you know what? He's the fourteenth best guy here."
Regardless what happened against Nelson, win or lose, Evans admires Kimbo for his decision to join The Ultimate Fighter 10 cast.
"I have a ton of respect for Kimbo for even going in there and putting himself in the position he did because, you know what, he didn't have to do that," Evans told MMAWeekly.com. "He could have just continued to fight for whatever promotion. He could fight anywhere. The guy can fight anywhere, any promotion, any time. I thought it was pretty big of him to put himself in a position where he's out of his comfort zone, big time, and he ended up fighting with a bunch of guys that wanted to destroy him.
“That's tough to do. I don't know a lot of people who would do that at all. My hat is off to him for even doing that in the first place."
5 Oz. Exclusive with Roy “Big Country” Nelson: ‘Take no damage, end the fight as soon as possible, and win’
Ladies and gentleman, as Octagon announcer Bruce Buffer would say, “IT’S TIME!!!”.
Unless you’ve been living in a cave, or have had the unfortunate luck of being stranded on a deserted island without cable television, the most highly anticipated episode in the history off The Ultimate Fighter will be airing tonight at its usual place and time on Spike TV.
There’s going to be a gentleman competing on the show by the name of Roy “Big Country” Nelson. He’s a self described “fat guy”. A fat guy with a track record for being one of the most dangerous heavyweights in the sport. Now, this fellow that goes by the alias “Big Country” is set to face off with a well muscled former street fighter with a massive Grizzly Adams beard that is most commonly known as Kimbo Slice on this evening’s broadcast.
FiveOuncesOfPain.com recently had the opportunity to catch up with Nelson on the eve of what will undoubtedly be the most important and widely viewed battle in the history of his career, and quite possibly the sport as a whole. A fight that fought under different circumstances could very well have been the biggest payday either fighter had ever seen.
“When I was in the IFL and he was with EliteXC, I really wanted to fight him because it would have been a big payday,” explained Nelson. “He made about $500,000 in his last fight, so if we would have fought I probably could have made $150,000 – $200,000. So it would have been a great payday, as opposed to now, where we’re basically fighting for free.”
There’s no reason to dwell over the money you could have made, and no time for it in a house filled with predators with intentions of making you the prey. Roy showed up to fight, and as far as he was concerned, the sooner he got his feet wet the better.
“While you’re in that house you get so built up with frustration because of the lack of any type of release,” said the 33 year old Las Vegas resident. “You go into that house knowing that you’re going to fight so I think it’s better just to pop your cherry as soon as possible so that you can relax. I go into that house knowing that I may have three fights in five weeks, so I want to spread those fights out evenly over that time period because you don’t want to start having fights that are just back to back.”
Of course there have been many fighters over the last year or two that have extremely vocal in their criticism of Kimbo and his meteoric rise to fame after becoming famous for beating up hooligans on the Internets, but what may came as a surprise to some, Nelson shared none of that resentment.
However, if Roy WAS the type of guy that gets frustrated about certain fighters not putting their time into the sport, there would be a different target for his animosity. A guy that “Big Country” would personally love to pull the horseshoe out of his a** and beat him over the head with it, as he would explain, “If that was the case I should really be mad at Brock Lesnar.
“If we’re talking about paying dues; that’s the guy that has never paid a due in his life. Just based on the amount of fights he had before getting his title shot. But it’s not about that. It’s all about putting butts in the seats. Everybody doesn’t know that, but that’s really what it is. It’s about making new fans and keeping the fans happy. The one thing that Brock and Kimbo have is a lot of fans. Brock brought the professional wrestling fans, and Kimbo brought the Internet fans.”
Anyone that was paying close attention to the first episode of TUF 10 would have seen a few brief clips of Nelson and Kimbo in a sparring session during the tryout phase for Team Rampage. If you paid even closer attention to the segment one would further notice that, although just a sparring session, Slice appeared to be getting the better of the much more experienced veteran of the fight game.
So was their time spent training together accurately portrayed on the show? According to Nelson, you can chalk another one up to camera trickery in that one.
“I was actually dominating the sparring session beforehand because every time I moved away I was hitting him,” revealed Nelson. “So it was just a little bit of that…. movie magic. Kimbo wasn’t going 100%, and you can land a jab on Kimbo all day when he’s not going 100%. That’s when everyone was like, “Oh, I wanna fight him! I wanna fight him!”, because they all sparred him. I’m sitting there thinking, ‘Can’t you see he’s sandbagging?’
“When I was sparring with Kimbo I thought he was sandbagging for sure, and then come to find out…. that’s what he was doing. He was just sandbagging.”
Being that this will be viewed on such a wide scale, one could assume that both guys will be coming out trying to murderize one another, but you have to remember that this is basically a tournament format. An extended sixteen man heavyweight kumite where preservation of your health and ability to continue on to your next fight is almost as important as the victory itself.
“I’ve always made it a habit to use my opponents weaknesses against them, but in a format like this, you have to be a little more cautious abut what you do,” explained the former IFL heavyweight champion. “Instead of throwing the whole kitchen sink you may have to say, “Ehhhh, here’s just a little water”. Because the thing is that there’s been times that I’ve left it all out there and wound up breaking my hands, and that’s one thing on your mind; you don’t want to break your hands. You just play the safe mode, to just get the W.”
“My biggest thing with this fight was to take no damage, end the fight as fast as possible, and win. That was my gameplan going into the house regarding any of the bouts I may have ended up in. It didn’t matter if I punched the guy, or took him down. Whatever you had to do to get the W. It didn’t matter if it was the ugliest win on the show. As long as you got that win, that’s all that mattered. At the same time, you want to leave the bout with no injuries, and you just have to get it done. It’s not like a real fight. It’s not like you’re fighting for a payday. You just have to get it done, and then move on to the next fight.”
Make sure to tune it tonight, and don’t forget to keep supporting the fat guy.
“I just want to thank all of the fans out there,” said Nelson. “I really appreciate the support. Keep supporting the fat guy! Of course I want to thank TapouT, because I’m bad for the sport! Just based on my appearance, I’m going to change the look of the UFC! I also want to thank superaction.com.
Ladies and gentleman, as Octagon announcer Bruce Buffer would say, “IT’S TIME!!!”.
Unless you’ve been living in a cave, or have had the unfortunate luck of being stranded on a deserted island without cable television, the most highly anticipated episode in the history off The Ultimate Fighter will be airing tonight at its usual place and time on Spike TV.
There’s going to be a gentleman competing on the show by the name of Roy “Big Country” Nelson. He’s a self described “fat guy”. A fat guy with a track record for being one of the most dangerous heavyweights in the sport. Now, this fellow that goes by the alias “Big Country” is set to face off with a well muscled former street fighter with a massive Grizzly Adams beard that is most commonly known as Kimbo Slice on this evening’s broadcast.
FiveOuncesOfPain.com recently had the opportunity to catch up with Nelson on the eve of what will undoubtedly be the most important and widely viewed battle in the history of his career, and quite possibly the sport as a whole. A fight that fought under different circumstances could very well have been the biggest payday either fighter had ever seen.
“When I was in the IFL and he was with EliteXC, I really wanted to fight him because it would have been a big payday,” explained Nelson. “He made about $500,000 in his last fight, so if we would have fought I probably could have made $150,000 – $200,000. So it would have been a great payday, as opposed to now, where we’re basically fighting for free.”
There’s no reason to dwell over the money you could have made, and no time for it in a house filled with predators with intentions of making you the prey. Roy showed up to fight, and as far as he was concerned, the sooner he got his feet wet the better.
“While you’re in that house you get so built up with frustration because of the lack of any type of release,” said the 33 year old Las Vegas resident. “You go into that house knowing that you’re going to fight so I think it’s better just to pop your cherry as soon as possible so that you can relax. I go into that house knowing that I may have three fights in five weeks, so I want to spread those fights out evenly over that time period because you don’t want to start having fights that are just back to back.”
Of course there have been many fighters over the last year or two that have extremely vocal in their criticism of Kimbo and his meteoric rise to fame after becoming famous for beating up hooligans on the Internets, but what may came as a surprise to some, Nelson shared none of that resentment.
However, if Roy WAS the type of guy that gets frustrated about certain fighters not putting their time into the sport, there would be a different target for his animosity. A guy that “Big Country” would personally love to pull the horseshoe out of his a** and beat him over the head with it, as he would explain, “If that was the case I should really be mad at Brock Lesnar.
“If we’re talking about paying dues; that’s the guy that has never paid a due in his life. Just based on the amount of fights he had before getting his title shot. But it’s not about that. It’s all about putting butts in the seats. Everybody doesn’t know that, but that’s really what it is. It’s about making new fans and keeping the fans happy. The one thing that Brock and Kimbo have is a lot of fans. Brock brought the professional wrestling fans, and Kimbo brought the Internet fans.”
Anyone that was paying close attention to the first episode of TUF 10 would have seen a few brief clips of Nelson and Kimbo in a sparring session during the tryout phase for Team Rampage. If you paid even closer attention to the segment one would further notice that, although just a sparring session, Slice appeared to be getting the better of the much more experienced veteran of the fight game.
So was their time spent training together accurately portrayed on the show? According to Nelson, you can chalk another one up to camera trickery in that one.
“I was actually dominating the sparring session beforehand because every time I moved away I was hitting him,” revealed Nelson. “So it was just a little bit of that…. movie magic. Kimbo wasn’t going 100%, and you can land a jab on Kimbo all day when he’s not going 100%. That’s when everyone was like, “Oh, I wanna fight him! I wanna fight him!”, because they all sparred him. I’m sitting there thinking, ‘Can’t you see he’s sandbagging?’
“When I was sparring with Kimbo I thought he was sandbagging for sure, and then come to find out…. that’s what he was doing. He was just sandbagging.”
Being that this will be viewed on such a wide scale, one could assume that both guys will be coming out trying to murderize one another, but you have to remember that this is basically a tournament format. An extended sixteen man heavyweight kumite where preservation of your health and ability to continue on to your next fight is almost as important as the victory itself.
“I’ve always made it a habit to use my opponents weaknesses against them, but in a format like this, you have to be a little more cautious abut what you do,” explained the former IFL heavyweight champion. “Instead of throwing the whole kitchen sink you may have to say, “Ehhhh, here’s just a little water”. Because the thing is that there’s been times that I’ve left it all out there and wound up breaking my hands, and that’s one thing on your mind; you don’t want to break your hands. You just play the safe mode, to just get the W.”
“My biggest thing with this fight was to take no damage, end the fight as fast as possible, and win. That was my gameplan going into the house regarding any of the bouts I may have ended up in. It didn’t matter if I punched the guy, or took him down. Whatever you had to do to get the W. It didn’t matter if it was the ugliest win on the show. As long as you got that win, that’s all that mattered. At the same time, you want to leave the bout with no injuries, and you just have to get it done. It’s not like a real fight. It’s not like you’re fighting for a payday. You just have to get it done, and then move on to the next fight.”
Make sure to tune it tonight, and don’t forget to keep supporting the fat guy.
“I just want to thank all of the fans out there,” said Nelson. “I really appreciate the support. Keep supporting the fat guy! Of course I want to thank TapouT, because I’m bad for the sport! Just based on my appearance, I’m going to change the look of the UFC! I also want to thank superaction.com.
Roy Nelson: Referee Herb Dean was afraid to stop the Kimbo fight and lose his job
“I could have stayed in mount and finished him there with elbows and punches, but my game plan was to get to the crucifix, and once I got to the crucifix, finish the fight there. First round was 44 punches to the face, and then (referee) Herb Dean doesn’t know how to ref, but we’ve seen that before. And then the next round was 22 punches. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, ‘Come on, ref.’ But the thing is, there’s a lot of people; there’s a lot of money. Kimbo’s the only one that I know that had an entourage there; he actually had his family there, his management, while the rest of us kind of had to suffer. The UFC made, we’ll say, different concessions for Kimbo. I think he had a media room. Kimbo’s definitely, I guess we’ll say, special. I don’t see the specialness fighting-wise, but more for TV-wise. He puts butts in the seats. So I think it was more that Herb Dean was afraid to lose his job, because there’s a lot of people with a lot of money that can have a lot of influence with his career.”
“I could have stayed in mount and finished him there with elbows and punches, but my game plan was to get to the crucifix, and once I got to the crucifix, finish the fight there. First round was 44 punches to the face, and then (referee) Herb Dean doesn’t know how to ref, but we’ve seen that before. And then the next round was 22 punches. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, ‘Come on, ref.’ But the thing is, there’s a lot of people; there’s a lot of money. Kimbo’s the only one that I know that had an entourage there; he actually had his family there, his management, while the rest of us kind of had to suffer. The UFC made, we’ll say, different concessions for Kimbo. I think he had a media room. Kimbo’s definitely, I guess we’ll say, special. I don’t see the specialness fighting-wise, but more for TV-wise. He puts butts in the seats. So I think it was more that Herb Dean was afraid to lose his job, because there’s a lot of people with a lot of money that can have a lot of influence with his career.”
What is Roy talking about though ? Herb Dean was in no danger of losing his job, he works for the State Athletic Commission, not the UFC.
If anything, by him not calling the fight at the right time could cost him his job, not by stopping it early. Anyways, Roy shouldn't even mention Brock's name, because Brock would obliterate him in the first round via death.
If anything, by him not calling the fight at the right time could cost him his job, not by stopping it early. Anyways, Roy shouldn't even mention Brock's name, because Brock would obliterate him in the first round via death.
***Spoiler***
Looks like we know who Kimbo's next opponent is. Fuck up by TUF or on purpose??
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Kimbo_Fighting_Brendan_Schaub_TUF_Clip?vid=10006761&tid=104
Looks like we know who Kimbo's next opponent is. Fuck up by TUF or on purpose??
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Kimbo_Fighting_Brendan_Schaub_TUF_Clip?vid=10006761&tid=104