THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
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do you want to rewrite that? rap, country, rock, and r&b all have retail music, these are not mutually exclusive. i honestly dont even know what you are saying, and i could give a fuck about underground artists "hurting" this shit makes me laugh, the foundation of all these arguments is music versus money. so im glad its fading for all these shitty "independent" artists if you could even call them artists. if they stop making music cause they arent getting paid then they are not an artist, they are an employee. you want to talk about music in general turn on community radio in any city, music is alive and well.
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of course it goes beyond music, everything is everything
OR find new shit through other mediums instead of just listening to radio or watching tv, and your preferences may change because your view expands, and then you dont need to make it yourself or pay someone else. solved.
i cant turn that shit off cause i dont even turn it on. But i am terribly glad you bring this up, and im sure some genius will step in and object to people actually thinking, but "why dont people turn off the radio, turn off mtv" why is it that some portion of the population still does this to themselves?
that is THE question. what is your opinion? id like to know peoples opinions on this instead of watching people argue over whether this should be a thread. my opinion is that mtv is for white girls and the radio is for poor people. the first crowd has disposable income from dada, and the second group uses music as an escape while they drive from shitty job to shitty apartment. you know, the types that sing a long with a rapper talking about hustling and getting money even though they are broke and are on their way to sam goody to pay $20 to have an official copy of their hero calling them a trick. haaaahahhahahahhahahahhaa.
you know thats not true. "rants" reflect sales that have ALREADY been lost. and even then, look at your last sentence, you canceled out the first one with it. but on the rest i agree 100%, internet has removed a lot of the financial incentive of making music, and i support this.
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of course it goes beyond music, everything is everything
OR find new shit through other mediums instead of just listening to radio or watching tv, and your preferences may change because your view expands, and then you dont need to make it yourself or pay someone else. solved.
i cant turn that shit off cause i dont even turn it on. But i am terribly glad you bring this up, and im sure some genius will step in and object to people actually thinking, but "why dont people turn off the radio, turn off mtv" why is it that some portion of the population still does this to themselves?
that is THE question. what is your opinion? id like to know peoples opinions on this instead of watching people argue over whether this should be a thread. my opinion is that mtv is for white girls and the radio is for poor people. the first crowd has disposable income from dada, and the second group uses music as an escape while they drive from shitty job to shitty apartment. you know, the types that sing a long with a rapper talking about hustling and getting money even though they are broke and are on their way to sam goody to pay $20 to have an official copy of their hero calling them a trick. haaaahahhahahahhahahahhaa.
you know thats not true. "rants" reflect sales that have ALREADY been lost. and even then, look at your last sentence, you canceled out the first one with it. but on the rest i agree 100%, internet has removed a lot of the financial incentive of making music, and i support this.
Not true. Havent you ever met someone who paints or draws in the spare time and is GOOD? Why cant someone who knows how to play the guitar, flute, or piano play for the staisfaction or for soothign the soul? Artistic outlets were only turned into a form of money becuase people enjoy them, and somehow big business stepped in and found a way to make money off this.
True, I guess my point was that people seem to have set their options to "radio or MTV". However, I see WHY this is. Radio and other media outlets gives the potantial consumer an idea of what to expect from an artist. When you are independent, it is MUCH harder to get that air time, ESPECIALLY if it doesnt sound "uniform" to the masses. Therefore, I understand the rant, but still think its pointless. Take a chance, buy an album you have never heard of before.
Very good point. If these mediums were never turned on in the first place, there can be no gripe.
I do not listen to regular radio or watch TRL type shows. I like the satelite radio and I watch old school videos that I already have a liking for. I also have 111 GB's of music on my iPod. Appeantly, it says it will take me 50 days to listen to the whole thing.
LMAO! I agree with the former, and somewhat agree with the latter.
Or just have a broken CD player and are too lazy to get it fixed.
I disagree. I think the first and last sentences play off eachother and only re-inforce the whole rant thing. You cannot have a rant if you do not have something to rant about. If music wasnt whored out and washed up once money is the key driver, then there would be this thread, period.
I hate to say it, but I just flat out DO NOT buy music anymore. I feel light-weight guilty to becuase most of the shit i DL, are from independent artists or those who you would find on the radio. Regardless of what people think, MOST of these musicians spend LOTS of time getting these albums done. Even though they arent saving lives or teaching kids, it takes alot of skill, patience, and tenacity to do an album. I have seen this first hand and its a real slap in the face when someone goes and pirates your shit for DL.
Of course, this makes me a hypocrite and to be honest, im OK with that. Life is supposed to be about challenges.
Very good point. If these mediums were never turned on in the first place, there can be no gripe.
I do not listen to regular radio or watch TRL type shows. I like the satelite radio and I watch old school videos that I already have a liking for. I also have 111 GB's of music on my iPod. Appeantly, it says it will take me 50 days to listen to the whole thing.
LMAO! I agree with the former, and somewhat agree with the latter.
Or just have a broken CD player and are too lazy to get it fixed.
I disagree. I think the first and last sentences play off eachother and only re-inforce the whole rant thing. You cannot have a rant if you do not have something to rant about. If music wasnt whored out and washed up once money is the key driver, then there would be this thread, period.
I hate to say it, but I just flat out DO NOT buy music anymore. I feel light-weight guilty to becuase most of the shit i DL, are from independent artists or those who you would find on the radio. Regardless of what people think, MOST of these musicians spend LOTS of time getting these albums done. Even though they arent saving lives or teaching kids, it takes alot of skill, patience, and tenacity to do an album. I have seen this first hand and its a real slap in the face when someone goes and pirates your shit for DL.
Of course, this makes me a hypocrite and to be honest, im OK with that. Life is supposed to be about challenges.
I don't agree
You do not distinguish between arts where you can become "good enough" (whatever the criteria for that is) relatively easy and where achieving true mastery of it is difficult
Hip-hop today happens to be relatively easy to master to a level where you are "sufficiently good". It requires little enough effort to be worth the investment and it allows for people who are in it only for the money and not because they have real passion for doing to proliferate and be successful. This in turns sets the standards for quality even lower (because the next generation follows those who were successful right before them) and so on
This cycle can be broke down if there are too little money involved for becoming a rapper to be worth the effort
You do not distinguish between arts where you can become "good enough" (whatever the criteria for that is) relatively easy and where achieving true mastery of it is difficult
Hip-hop today happens to be relatively easy to master to a level where you are "sufficiently good". It requires little enough effort to be worth the investment and it allows for people who are in it only for the money and not because they have real passion for doing to proliferate and be successful. This in turns sets the standards for quality even lower (because the next generation follows those who were successful right before them) and so on
This cycle can be broke down if there are too little money involved for becoming a rapper to be worth the effort
Nothing
But I can tell you two other things that are wrong:
1. When you have no talent and you try to capitalize on the current trend
2. When you have talent but instead of using it, you just follow the current trend and make the same pre-packaged (and usually wack) music that everybody else makes
One thing that very often gets left out of the discussion about the independent scene is that it is essentially constantly shrinking, and this is not because less people are independent but because more and more independent artists make music that is indistinguishable for what the majors produce
But I can tell you two other things that are wrong:
1. When you have no talent and you try to capitalize on the current trend
2. When you have talent but instead of using it, you just follow the current trend and make the same pre-packaged (and usually wack) music that everybody else makes
One thing that very often gets left out of the discussion about the independent scene is that it is essentially constantly shrinking, and this is not because less people are independent but because more and more independent artists make music that is indistinguishable for what the majors produce
I see where you are going with this but it misses the initial point YOU made.
Art is in the eye of the beholder, period. One person may think something is beuatiful and artistic, and others may think its ugly and uncreative. This is EXACTLY what is going on NOW. YOU think something is terrible, wereas someone else thinks its great.
Do I have to go over PREFERNCES again? Do we really have to define OPINION for thr 239057397508th time? Why do people think they are the end all of something?
You dont like it, move the fuck on and find something you do. Sitting here bitchign about it does NOTHING for you or ANYONE else.
