the portland trailblazers
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Roy doesn't dominate? Have you even been payin attention? My personal bias to the side, have you seen how he dictates the tempo of a game? Have you seen how he can break anybody down off the dribble? Have you seen how he can find the holes in defenses that are designed to take him out of the game whether it be a drive to the lane, elbow jumper, 3, or drivin and kickin to the open man. He does a little bit of everything, and everything that the team needs him to do to win. Without Roy, nobody even thinks twice about the Blazers right now. He's the first Blazer to get back to back player of the week awards since Clyde Drexler (a pretty dominant guy in his own right) 20 years ago. He's not the flashiest player on the planet, but you don't have to draw oohs and ahhs to be dominant. Tim Duncan is the least flashy player ever and is more about the team (much in the same way that Roy is) but I doubt anybody would say he's not a dominant player. The reason he doesn't get mentioned among dominant players right now is because its only his 2nd damn year in the league, and in a small market he's not gonna get as much press. He's making a name for himself now though, and he is slowly starting to be recognized.
Thats great and im glad you feel this way. However, Roy is STILL not a dominant player after saying all this. But thanks for your input.
Roy is good and his potential to BE a dominant player is THERE...but when you mumble the names of players like Jordan and Bird as dominant players...Roy is no where NEAR them....so cut the crap, please.
Once again, another Blazer fan saying Roy is or near dominance. Go figure.
Roy is good and his potential to BE a dominant player is THERE...but when you mumble the names of players like Jordan and Bird as dominant players...Roy is no where NEAR them....so cut the crap, please.
Once again, another Blazer fan saying Roy is or near dominance. Go figure.
If you are going to keep using Jordan as a measuring stick, then nobody is dominant. In terms of the NBA as it is today, Roy is damn near dominant if not dominant already. Does he dominate in the same way that Jordan, Bird, Magic, Isaiah and Wilt did? Of course not. He has his own dynamics that allow him to control the game in his own way. I think he's already better than Carmelo (in terms of his impact on a team, not stats) and sneaking up on guys like Wade and James. I'm not saying he is the MOST dominant, but to say he isn't a dominator at all, at least to me is not a fair assessment.
THats a point im trying to drive home. If Roy is dominant, than so is a 1/3 of the league. THat means the measuring stick for dominance is NOT very big...do you see what im getting at?
I disagree.
Exactly. Bird, Magic, Jordan...THEY are the true measuring sticks OF dominance.
THat does NOT make him dominant. Nash is better than Roy as controlling the game, yet you fail to mention him.
Funny, because Melo has already taken his team ot he playoffs and are in run to win the West. What has Roy done thus far in terms of that? YOu may say that Denver isnt as young as PO...true, but for a young guy like Melo to be able to take over a game like he does is sickening.
Now youre just being a homer.
No, thats a PORTLAND TRAILBLAZER FAN assesment.
Look, im a fan of Roy's...i watched him play damn near EVERY game for UW. Ive seen him play on the courts around Seattle at places xpanther has mantioned...he is a good person and a true team player. But, by the measuring stick of dominance, he is NOT that YET. He DOES have the potential, though. Getting to the playoffs is a good start.
If YOU feel he dominant...good for you. The FUCK do i really care? It doesnt affect me in any way, I just thought I would show you how MOST people would measure DOMINANCE as far as the NBA goes. However, if you feel he is almost or already there, then it is what it is.
Its all opinions, man...straight up. Yet, the only people callin him dominant are 2 Blazers fan and a UW fanatic. GO figure.
*shrugs*
I disagree.
Exactly. Bird, Magic, Jordan...THEY are the true measuring sticks OF dominance.
THat does NOT make him dominant. Nash is better than Roy as controlling the game, yet you fail to mention him.
Funny, because Melo has already taken his team ot he playoffs and are in run to win the West. What has Roy done thus far in terms of that? YOu may say that Denver isnt as young as PO...true, but for a young guy like Melo to be able to take over a game like he does is sickening.
Now youre just being a homer.
No, thats a PORTLAND TRAILBLAZER FAN assesment.
Look, im a fan of Roy's...i watched him play damn near EVERY game for UW. Ive seen him play on the courts around Seattle at places xpanther has mantioned...he is a good person and a true team player. But, by the measuring stick of dominance, he is NOT that YET. He DOES have the potential, though. Getting to the playoffs is a good start.
If YOU feel he dominant...good for you. The FUCK do i really care? It doesnt affect me in any way, I just thought I would show you how MOST people would measure DOMINANCE as far as the NBA goes. However, if you feel he is almost or already there, then it is what it is.
Its all opinions, man...straight up. Yet, the only people callin him dominant are 2 Blazers fan and a UW fanatic. GO figure.
*shrugs*
I see what you are saying but rather than comparing him to players who were dominant in their past, I'm comparing him to players who are actually playing today.
fantastic.
According to you. That does not make it so.
Fair enough, but why would I mention Nash?
Anthony came into a decent situation. And was the guy that put an already decent team over the top. Roy came into a horrible situation and damn near single handedly is turning the shit around. Portland wasn't even an afterthought last year. The only thing about last season anybody remembers about Portland was the excellent play of the rookie of the year. I don't know how many Blazer games you have seen this season, but Roy also takes games over but he does it by doing more than just scoring.
I'll give you that "sneaking up on James" comment was a reach, but fuck it, I don't care, I was excited from the win streak. lol
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=740708
Apparently. You took all that time and energy to dissect my post. If you didn't care you would have ignored it and moved on to whatever was "important"
fantastic.
According to you. That does not make it so.
Fair enough, but why would I mention Nash?
Anthony came into a decent situation. And was the guy that put an already decent team over the top. Roy came into a horrible situation and damn near single handedly is turning the shit around. Portland wasn't even an afterthought last year. The only thing about last season anybody remembers about Portland was the excellent play of the rookie of the year. I don't know how many Blazer games you have seen this season, but Roy also takes games over but he does it by doing more than just scoring.
I'll give you that "sneaking up on James" comment was a reach, but fuck it, I don't care, I was excited from the win streak. lol
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=740708
Apparently. You took all that time and energy to dissect my post. If you didn't care you would have ignored it and moved on to whatever was "important"