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Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News puts the chances of Bengie Molina re-signing with the Giants between "remote" and "unlikely."
Baggarly writes that the Giants are open to bringing him back on a one-year deal while they wait for top-prospect Buster Posey, however Molina is on record saying that he wants a two-year deal with a raise. Either way, since Molina is a Type A free agent, Baggarly expects the Giants to offer Molina arbitration in the event that he signs elsewhere. If he does, the Giants could look at another veteran like Ivan Rodriguez to mentor Posey.
 

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Off-Season - But Not Time Off

The Giants held a three-hour meeting Wednesday of the entire staff. They went over highlights of the 2009 season and laid out plans and goals for 2010. (Orange Fridays are coming back!) There was particular focus, as you might imagine, on improving offensive production, including a better on-base percentage and a more consistent one-through-five batting lineup. Brian Sabean's staff talked of identifying possible trades or free-agent signings. Any trade (or signing), managing general partner Bill Neukom explained, would have to meeting the following criteria:


  • [*]Does this player significantly improve the team's win-loss record?

    [*]How much money will he cost?

    [*]How much talent do the Giants give up for him?

    [*]Does this player's arrival thwart the progress of a top homegrown prospect?

    [*]Does this player fit in with the team chemistry?
The part about improving OBP and solidifying 1-5 in the lineup is an encouraging sign, and the part about free-agent signings or trades is a breath of fresh air considering Sabean's track record...
 

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According to FOXSports.com, the Giants would like to bring back Juan Uribe.
Uribe, 30, came out of nowhere to bat .289/.329/.495 with 16 home runs and 55 RBI in 398 at-bats with the Giants in 2009. His representatives talked with general manager Brian Sabean at the GM meetings in Chicago on Wednesday, but he will most likely seek a multi-year contract on the open market.

FOXSports.com reports that the Orioles and Giants have shown the most interest in Dan Uggla.
The Red Sox have even considered Uggla as a potential alternative to Jason Bay in left field, although he hasn't played in the outfield since the 2004 season in Double-A. Uggla, 30, figures to play third base should he be acquired by the Orioles or Giants, according to the report, but they would be taking quite a leap of faith considering his defense. He should make roughly $8 million in arbitration this winter.
 
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http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2009/269131.html

By Jim Callis
November 9, 2009

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Now that the World Series is over, free agency is heating up. We take a look at the highest-rated major league free agents in our first question below, and the minor league list of six-year free agents should be available later this week. We'll post it as soon as we get it.

We're also in full Prospect Handbook mode, so Ask BA is going to appear every other week for the rest of 2009 while we finish the book. If you have questions that have to be answered, don't forget that we'll be doing 2-3 Top 10 list chats per week and one of us (usually me) will chat on ESPN.com every Wednesday at 2 p.m. ET.

I heard that the Elias rankings have been released. Can you please explain which free agents will generate compensation picks and how that process works?

Charles Zhang
Surprise, Ariz.
Starting with the 1980-83 Collective Bargaining Agreement, MLB has determined which free agents require compensation by using Elias Sports Bureau calculations based on two years of performance. Players are sorted into position groups by league: catchers; designated hitters, first basemen and outfielders; second basemen, third basemen and shortstops; starting pitchers; and relief pitchers.

All hitters are graded on plate appearances, batting average, on-base percentage, home runs and RBIs. Fielding percentage and assists also are considered for catchers, and fielding percentage and total chances also matter for second basemen, third basemen and shortstops. The categories for pitchers are starts, innings, wins, winning percentage, ERA and strikeouts for starters; and relief appearances, innings, wins plus saves, ERA, hits per nine innings and strikeout/walk ratio for relievers.

Players who rate in the top 20 percent of their position group are designated as Type A free agents, and those in the 21-40 percent bracket are designated as Type B. To receive compensation for a Type A or B free agent, the player's former club must offer him arbitration.

Type A free agents yield the signing team's first-round choice and a supplemental first-rounder, while Type B free agents produce only the sandwich pick. Clubs that finished in the bottom half of the major league standings have their first-round selections protected from compensation, and consolation picks for failure to sign draftees from the previous year can't change hands either. If a team signs multiple Type A free agents, the club that lost the higher-ranking player gets the better pick.

Below are the potential Type A and B free agents by position, listed in order of Elias ranking. Not all of these players have filed for free agency yet, and some have 2010 options that may be picked up by their current teams.


Potential Type A Free Agents
Catchers: Bengie Molina (SF).
First Basemen: None.
Second Basemen: Orlando Hudson (LAD), Placido Polanco (Det).
Third Basemen: Chone Figgins (LAA).
Shortstops: Marco Scutaro (Tor), Miguel Tejada (Hou), Orlando Cabrera (Min).
Outfielders: Matt Holliday (StL), Jason Bay (Bos), Johnny Damon (NYY), Jermaine Dye (CWS).
Starting Pitchers: John Lackey (LAA), Randy Wolf (LAD).
Relief Pitchers: Jose Valverde (Hou), Mike Gonzalez (Atl), Rafael Soriano (Atl), Billy Wagner (Bos), LaTroy Hawkins (Hou), Rafael Betancourt (Col), Darren Oliver (LAA), Kevin Gregg (ChC), John Grabow (ChC), Octavio Dotel (CWS).
Potential Type B Free Agents
Catchers: Ramon Hernandez (Cin), Jason Varitek (Bos), Ivan Rodriguez (Tex), Jason Kendall (Mil), Rod Barajas (Tor), Yorvit Torrealba (Col), Miguel Olivo (KC), Gregg Zaun (TB).
First Basemen: Fernando Tatis (NYM), Carlos Delgado (NYM), Adam LaRoche (Atl), Nick Johnson (Fla).
Second Basemen: Felipe Lopez (Mil), Ronnie Belliard (LAD).
Third Basemen: Melvin Mora (Bal), Mark DeRosa (StL), Adrian Beltre (Sea), Troy Glaus (StL).
Shortstops: None.
Outfielders: Marlon Byrd (Tex), Vladimir Guerrero (LAA), Xavier Nady (NYY), Brian Giles (SD), Garret Anderson (Atl), Randy Winn (SF), Mike Cameron (Mil).
Starting Pitchers: Rich Harden (ChC), Andy Pettitte (NYY), Vicente Padilla (LAD), Erik Bedard (Sea), Joel Pineiro (StL), Braden Looper (Mil), Jon Garland (LAD), Doug Davis (Ari), Randy Johnson (SF), Jason Marquis (Col), Justin Duchscherer (Oak), Carl Pavano (Min).
Relief Pitchers: Scott Eyre (Phi), Brandon Lyon (Det), Kiko Calero (Fla), Guillermo Mota (LAD), Chan Ho Park (Phi), Bob Howry (SF), Joe Beimel (Col), Will Ohman (LAD), Doug Brocail (Hou), David Weathers (Mil), Russ Springer (TB), Fernando Rodney (Det), Brian Shouse (TB).


The Twins won't get compensation for Cabrera because he has a clause in his contract preventing his team from offering him arbitration. Takashi Saito qualifies as a Type A but isn't listed above because he gained free agency when the Red Sox outrighted him from their 40-man roster, rather than declaring it after they declined his 2010 option.

Was Jose Alvarez a highly rated prospect in the Red Sox system? What do you think Jeremy Hermida's chances are of being a good everyday player for the Red Sox?

Paul Dumond
Madawaska, Maine
We listed 74 players on our Red Sox depth chart in the 2009 Prospect Handbook, and Alvarez didn't make it. He's a 20-year-old finesse lefthander who hasn't had much success in full-season ball, and he doesn't have any projection remaining because he's 5-foot-11. The main reason the Marlins traded Hermida was so they wouldn't have to pay him in arbitration, not the talent they received in lefthander Alvarez and Hunter Jones.

I'm an optimist when it comes to prospects I used to like, and I rated Hermida as the game's third-best prospect in the 2006 Prospect Handbook. On the other hand, Hermida has had one good season in the four years he has been a big league starter. Moving from Land Shark Stadium to Fenway Park should help him, but the American League is a lot tougher than the National League.

Hermida has yet to prove he can hit lefthanders. He still has the potential to be a solid regular against righties, but at this point he's more of an insurance policy in case Jason Bay leaves as a free agent and the Red Sox don't find another replacement. Hermida also can fill in should J.D. Drew have injury problems. It's a nice low-risk investment but it probably won't result in a huge payoff.

Has there been any news on Giants first baseman Angel Villalona since he was arrested?

Kevin O'Brien
Yonkers, N.Y.


The cream of the 2006 international crop, Villalona signed for a then-Giants record $2.1 million that summer. He stalled in high Class A this season before his career took an even bigger turn for the worse afterward, when he was arrested in his native Dominican Republic and charged with fatally shooting a man Sept. 19 in a dispute over a seat in a bar.

Villalona was in jail until he was released on bail Nov. 6. The family of the victim, Mario Felix de Jesus Velete, reportedly has requested that all charges be withdrawn—amid rumors of a payoff—but the prosecutor told the Associated Press that his office will proceed with the case.
 

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The Giants appear to have emerged as a "potential competitor" for Johnny Damon, reports Jon Heyman of SI.com.
Damon's agent Scott Boras is playing hardball, at least publicly, stating that the 36-year-old outfielder deserves another four-year contract. Heyman writes that the Yankees will "absolutely" not go that far, instead hoping to bring him back on a two-year contract. While the Giants may not go to the astronomical level that is needed to sign Matt Holliday or Jason Bay, they could be in for Damon.
 

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Villalona has U.S. visa revoked
Giants prospect accused of murder can't enter country

Angel Villalona, a top prospect for the San Francisco Giants, has been stripped of his U.S. visa after he was charged with killing a man in his Caribbean homeland, The Associated Press reported Friday.

Pablo Peguero, the Giants' representative for Latin America, told the AP that Villalona, 19, can't join the team in the United States because the U.S. Embassy in the Dominican Republic has revoked his visa.

According to the report, Dominican prosecutor Jose Antonio Polanco said Tuesday that Villalona offered the family of the man he allegedly killed nearly $140,000 to drop the case against him. He alleged the first baseman paid $55,000 and expected to offer another $83,000.

Polanco said the family viewed the payment as compensation for the killing of 25-year-old Mario Felix de Jesus Velete.

Villalona, who has pleaded innocent to the murder charge, has declined to speak to reporters. The family has also declined to comment.

Police said Villalona turned himself in 12 hours after the Sept. 19 bar shooting in La Romana. He could face up to 20 years in prison if found guilty.

Villalona was released last week on $14,000 bail after the family issued a statement saying it had accepted the money, Polanco told the AP. A Dominican judge is expected to hear the case in about a month.

Villalona, who received a $2.1 million signing bonus in his 2006 deal with the Giants, hit .267 with nine home runs and 42 RBIs in 74 games for Class A San Jose this season.
 
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So I ran into none other than Pablo Sandoval at the Suns/Hornets game this past Thursday in Phoenix. Talked to him for a while and was cool as hell. He said he was out there training with a couple other players from the team. Season just ended and they're already back at it. Good to hear.
 

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Damn so no more Villalona. That will sure deter the Giants from paying lots of money to another young international player.

And yeah, I do not want the Giants to sign Damon.
 
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It's gonna be another LONG season.... fuck.

San Francisco Giants not going after Holliday or Bay

By Mark J. Miller

“MattThe San Francisco Giants sure would like to have free agents Jason Bay(notes) and Matt Holliday(notes) sign with the team this winter, but Giants GM Brian Sabean apparently doesn't think either player really has any desire to come to the Bay Area, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

For that reason, Sabean isn't even going to extend any kind of offer to either one of the top offensive free agents on the market this year now that any team can make offers to any free agents. Sabean is saying that he doesn't want to be a "stalking horse" this off-season and get used as a negotiating tool for these players with other clubs.

So Sabean says the Giants will be focusing on so-called second-tier players to fill out the batting order and bullpen. That terminology sure is going to make those players feel good about themselves, too.